suites Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 I have read some complaints about the lack of variety so for this tour and I am just shocked that some would really think that. Without getting into details I have counted over 55 different songs played so far after 5 dates and an average of 33 songs or so per night. I saw both Miami and Clearwater and I think at some point at the Clearwater show they did 7 songs in a row that they did not play the night before. There is not really another group that would do that (except maybe the Dead and Pearl Jam). We should all just appreciate what we are seeing and stop trying to find things that are not there. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shakespeare In The Alley Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 I hear you. And honestly, the band shouldn't plan their setlists for the people who attend multiple shows in a row. It seems like they plan them based on past shows in the area, which is really all you can ask for. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kestrel Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Have to agree- I see no reason to complain about setlist variation. I just saw them in Savannah and Atlanta, and all I can say is that I saw 2 spectacular shows. Got the superlong setlist in Savannah, followed by a spirited show at the Fox, each one laced with gems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maddie Hope Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Have to agree- I see no reason to complain about setlist variation. I just saw them in Savannah and Atlanta, and all I can say is that I saw 2 spectacular shows. Got the superlong setlist in Savannah, followed by a spirited show at the Fox, each one laced with gems.I agree!!! Thank you Wilco!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Central Scrutinizer Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 I think the way they pull it all together is very cool. They're mixing it up. Honestly, it's a no-win situation because people would be complaining "why the *#&$% didn't they play Heavy Metal Drummer?!?" I've seen more than enough bands that play the same 17 songs in the same order in every city. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 I have read some complaints about the lack of variety so for this tour and I am just shocked that some would really think that. Without getting into details I have counted over 55 different songs played so far after 5 dates and an average of 33 songs or so per night. I saw both Miami and Clearwater and I think at some point at the Clearwater show they did 7 songs in a row that they did not play the night before. There is not really another group that would do that (except maybe the Dead and Pearl Jam). Yo La Tengo can easily pull this off. the Freewheeling tour was awesome. if you are counting dead bands (like the Dead), Guided By Voices would be another one. other bands w/ deep catalogs who aren't touring on a specific record and can dig deep would include Sonic Youth, Super Furry Animals and Mogwai. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shakespeare In The Alley Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 other bands w/ deep catalogs who aren't touring on a specific record and can dig deep would include Sonic Youth, Super Furry Animals and Mogwai.Good examples, but I wish SFA dug deeper. They always bring out a rare song on each new tour, but there's so much they neglect. I'll still see them whenever possible, though. But the best songbook in modern rock is being wasted there. Again, Wilco's in a tough position because they have hardcore and casual fans at every show. I'd say they achieve that balance very well. The casuals can leave having heard HMD and ITMWLY, and the hardcores can leave having heard Laminated Cat or Bob Dylan's Beard. There shouldn't be any complaints. But alas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JethroNC Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 Absolutely ZERO complaints here. Sure, there are songs I wish I could've heard last night, but I don't think I've ever been to a show where I've heard absolutely every song I wanted to hear. As for artists with deep catalogs who like to mix things up, throw Springsteen into that group. Sure, you're bound to hear "Born To Run" every single night, but a large portion of his setlist changes from night to night. He even left blank spaces in the setlist for requests ("audibles") during the summer 2009 tour. http://brucespringsteen.net/live/2009setlists.html#20090502 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SarahC Posted March 28, 2010 Share Posted March 28, 2010 I am never going to complain about a set list that Wilco has. I think I've seen Shot In the Arm at every show I've seen, and each time always discover something new in the mix, because no room is ever the same. I am impressed they are playing so long without an intermission. It's epic as all get out. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Considering the fact that Tweedy changes guitars after every single song (for what real purpose, I have no idea), changing setlists drastically each night would probably create technical and logistical problems. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Runaway Jim Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Personally, I prefer when bands switch up their set lists a lot. Wilco has the talent and catalog to do it, but they don't. They must like playing a lot of the same songs every night. Which is fine. I want them to have fun on stage. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lamradio Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 The only song that I don't really care to hear at every show is Jesus Etc. But in Savannah, they let the crowd sing the lyrics while Jeff stood back, which was great!! Considering the fact that Tweedy changes guitars after every single song (for what real purpose, I have no idea), changing setlists drastically each night would probably create technical and logistical problems. I think it's to ensure that he always stays perfectly in tune on every song. Rich rock stars with multiple guitars and roadies have that luxury. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
choo-choo-charlie Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Considering the fact that Tweedy changes guitars after every single song (for what real purpose, I have no idea), changing setlists drastically each night would probably create technical and logistical problems. Different songs call for different guitar sounds/tones as well as tunings. There's the trebly twang of the Tele, the rich overdrive of the SG, the open-G tuning of the Gibson Barney Kessel for "Walken," etc. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SarahC Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 he does use some very different tunings. over all, i think the guitar transitions go very smooth compared to other bands i've seen. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sam L. Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 "They are also going to be drawing from all seven of their albums and varying the sets every night." I distinctly remember that in promoting this tour, the reports were similar to the above--so I got the impression that the setlists would be more varied than usual--kind of like an extended version of the 5 nite residency they did a few years back. So far, this has not been the case, especially with the first third of the show. It will be interesting to see if the Montclair set lists are more varied, since it's 2 nites at one venue. Never seen Wilco on back to back nites, so I'm really excited about the upcoming Wellmont shows. And I think for Wilco, the smaller the venue, the more I enjoy the show.Loved the show they did a few years back at Starland Ballroom (horn players from Brown U show!). Sam L. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dmait Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 >Loved the show they did a few years back at Starland Ballroom (horn players from Brown U show!). That was a great show. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
suites Posted March 29, 2010 Author Share Posted March 29, 2010 "They are also going to be drawing from all seven of their albums and varying the sets every night." I distinctly remember that in promoting this tour, the reports were similar to the above--so I got the impression that the setlists would be more varied than usual--kind of like an extended version of the 5 nite residency they did a few years back. So far, this has not been the case, especially with the first third of the show. It will be interesting to see if the Montclair set lists are more varied, since it's 2 nites at one venue. Never seen Wilco on back to back nites, so I'm really excited about the upcoming Wellmont shows. And I think for Wilco, the smaller the venue, the more I enjoy the show.Loved the show they did a few years back at Starland Ballroom (horn players from Brown U show!). Sam L. Wrong....They have been playing 8-12 song different every night...that is more then anyone else does. They are not going to play 20-25 songs different each night. Tweedy guitar changes give us fans a preview to guess what is coming up next...I was 75% at Miami with my guesses. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
SarahC Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Wrong....They have been playing 8-12 song different every night...that is more then anyone else does. They are not going to play 20-25 songs different each night. Tweedy guitar changes give us fans a preview to guess what is coming up next...I was 75% at Miami with my guesses.Isn't that fun? I told my friend when Jeff had an acoustic with the red SG behind it was going to be "Handshake Drugs" and she looked at my puzzled "How on earth do you know that?" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Runaway Jim Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Wrong....They have been playing 8-12 song different every night...that is more then anyone else does. Not really. Phish rarely plays the same song two straight shows. Their sets are always wildly different. Wilco could do this, but doesn't. Then again, Wilco could really jam, but doesn't. Two different bands, I suppose. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Maddie Hope Posted March 29, 2010 Share Posted March 29, 2010 Tweedy guitar changes give us fans a preview to guess what is coming up next...I was 75% at Miami with my guesses.This is fun!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
suites Posted March 30, 2010 Author Share Posted March 30, 2010 36 songs on Durham, is that enough....how bout, Cant Stand it, Ashes, Out of Mind, How To Fight...,Shes a Jar, Company in my Back, Laminated Cat, Someday, Some Morning. I would guess they are up to over 60 different songs played in like 7 shows. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Runaway Jim Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Exactly who are you talking to? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Different songs call for different guitar sounds/tones as well as tunings. There's the trebly twang of the Tele, the rich overdrive of the SG, the open-G tuning of the Gibson Barney Kessel for "Walken," etc. Yeah, I understand all that. There are only a few things in this world that I like to be shown more than a great guitar collection, but after the 15th guitar swap I found myself hoping they'd just rip into a three or four song run with no swaps...tuning be damned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 They played 10 songs in Richmond that were not played in Clearwater. So, yeah, they are varying these set lists quite a bit. Impressive, and much, much more varied than what they've done on past tours. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anysongworthsinging Posted March 30, 2010 Share Posted March 30, 2010 Not really. Phish rarely plays the same song two straight shows. Their sets are always wildly different. Wilco could do this, but doesn't. Then again, Wilco could really jam, but doesn't. Two different bands, I suppose. Agreed. I love Wilco but they hardly improvise a single note or drum beat all night long. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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