Shakespeare In The Alley Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Jeff's wife posts here, dude. Show some respect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 Are you a real person? Case in point... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted August 29, 2011 Share Posted August 29, 2011 I don't know that you CAN say the band IS embarassed by any song. You would have to be a real insider to know that, and I have my doubts that this board has any real insiders. I sure hope ction doesn't read this. or that one chick. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest McGuffin Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 It's a very good record that gets a bad rap because it's it a catalog of great records. Anyway, f*%k what they (we) say on the board- an emotional connection to music will trump cork-sniffery every single time. Welcome to VC This isn't my opinion, but I've seen the opinion stated that SBS is a "catalog of great records," as you say. I've seen others say that WTA is the same thing. Now, I'm seeing people state that TWL is, wait for it, the same darn thing. How many catalogs of great records can Wilco put out. Pretty soon, they'll have to release catalogs of catalogs. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
porkdog324 Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 This isn't my opinion, but I've seen the opinion stated that SBS is a "catalog of great records," as you say. I've seen others say that WTA is the same thing. Now, I'm seeing people state that TWL is, wait for it, the same darn thing. How many catalogs of great records can Wilco put out. Pretty soon, they'll have to release catalogs of catalogs. I think ghost was saying that SBS is in a catalog of great records, not is a catalog of great records. I could be wrong though Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost of Electricity Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I think ghost was saying that SBS is in a catalog of great records, not is a catalog of great records. I could be wrong though indeed. damn typos. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
augurus Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 It's a great album. If it would have came out after Being There or Summerteeth people would consider it a masterpiece.It did come out, about 9 to 11 years after Being There and Summerteeth came out. And I still don't find it great because of the grating Eagles era rock. Some of it still shined like Side With The Seeds, but I still find Impossible Germany impossibly worn and stretched, even with all the talent Nels poured into the song. Nels, you're awesome, but, you can't salvage it. The entire album is like sitting in the back of a car through a 4000 mile trip over an unchanging canvas of grass. Yes, there's plenty of details, just very uninteresting and bland details. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 One of the main problems with SBS - and the same could be said for WTA - is that fans are divided on many of the songs. I don't mean slightly divided, I mean passionately. "I hate Walken." "I love Shake It Off." "What Light is one of Wilco's worst songs." "Impossible Germany is one of my favorite songs." Etc, etc. People feel really strongly pro or con about maybe every song. Contrast that with ST, YHF and even AGIB. Sure, there were a few songs that some people didn't like, but there was an awful lot of talk like "Best Wilco record yet" and "I love every song on this album." I know different people like different things, but there hasn't been much to agree on for fans with these last two efforts, other than a general sense of "lackluster," "not their best effort," "not cohesive," "on a downhill slide," and so on. By the way, that doesn't mean that these albums suck. It is really, to me, a testimonial to the greatness of the Wilco catalogue that the bar is so, so high. To produce Being There, then Summerteeth, then YHF is a masterful accomplishment. The downside is that, naturally, everyone wants more...and more means "stuff that is just as great." Instead of more high water marks, we've gotten albums with maybe a couple great songs, and some good ones, with maybe a few clunkers. Still, the worst Wilco songs are probably better than about 80-90% of what's out there. Sorry for all the quotation marks, but ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
choo-choo-charlie Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Still, the worst Wilco songs are probably better than about 80-90% of what's out there. Sounds like just about every piece that was written about The Beatles when the remasters came out... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 the worst Wilco songs are probably better than about 80-90% of what's out there. I'd listen to nothing but KC and Jojo for a full year before I'd listen to The Song I Shant Name again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 I'd listen to nothing but KC and Jojo for a full year before I'd listen to The Song I Shant Name again.Which KC & JoJo song? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Which KC & JoJo song?The one that's popular at weddings. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost of Electricity Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 Weddings don't exist. KC & JoJo don't exist, whoever the hell they would be if they did. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted August 31, 2011 Share Posted August 31, 2011 good bit Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 One of the main problems with SBS - and the same could be said for WTA - is that fans are divided on many of the songs. I don't mean slightly divided, I mean passionately. "I hate Walken." "I love Shake It Off." "What Light is one of Wilco's worst songs." "Impossible Germany is one of my favorite songs." Etc, etc. People feel really strongly pro or con about maybe every song. Contrast that with ST, YHF and even AGIB. Sure, there were a few songs that some people didn't like, but there was an awful lot of talk like "Best Wilco record yet" and "I love every song on this album." I know different people like different things, but there hasn't been much to agree on for fans with these last two efforts, other than a general sense of "lackluster," "not their best effort," "not cohesive," "on a downhill slide," and so on. By the way, that doesn't mean that these albums suck. It is really, to me, a testimonial to the greatness of the Wilco catalogue that the bar is so, so high. To produce Being There, then Summerteeth, then YHF is a masterful accomplishment. The downside is that, naturally, everyone wants more...and more means "stuff that is just as great." Instead of more high water marks, we've gotten albums with maybe a couple great songs, and some good ones, with maybe a few clunkers. Still, the worst Wilco songs are probably better than about 80-90% of what's out there. Sorry for all the quotation marks, but ... Yes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 I'd listen to nothing but KC and Jojo for a full year before I'd listen to The Song I Shant Name again. We get it. You hate the song. Why don't you change your name to reflect that and spare us all the angst. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 even with all the talent Nels poured into the song. Nels, you're awesome, but, you can't salvage it. The entire album is like sitting in the back of a car through a 4000 mile trip over an unchanging canvas of grass. Yes, there's plenty of details, just very uninteresting and bland details. That, and Nels' appearances in Wilco so far seem to be limited to "notes played really fast together with OMGOMGOMG feedback!" I've heard other stuff Nels has done, and his Wilco appearances either seem to be of this caliber or smooth jazz territory. When they say on the new album that he really "unleashes," I sure hope that doesn't mean, "UNLEASHED! - in the backyard with a peanut butter kong and a cute stuffed animal chew toy" like SBS and W(TA). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rhino4evr Posted September 1, 2011 Share Posted September 1, 2011 Watching Nels play Impossible Germany live is pretty amazing. I like that he has a big influence but does not over power the Wilco sound. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ction Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 I was kinda hoping caliber was going to get banned there back on page whatfuckingever... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted September 3, 2011 Share Posted September 3, 2011 I was kinda hoping you would light yourself on fire. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BobbyLewis222 Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 Can someone explain to me why so many people hate on Sky Blue Sky? I listen to the album so much and I still love it. Amazing songwriting in my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ih8music Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I certainly don't hate it -- it was my first "new" Wilco album and I absolutely loved it. That said, after exposing myself to everything else they had done up to that point, it settled into my 4th/5th favorite (and now with TWL it'll likely fall to 5th/6th). That's not a condemnation of SBS, but more a statement of how great the rest of their catalog is. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
junkiesmile Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I like the album but it just didn't live up to the expectations built by the previous four albums. BT wow. ST holy shit. YHF oh my god. AGIB they did it again. SBS meh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Inside of Outside Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 I have no hatred for Sky Blue Sky. It has one of the few Wilco songs I do not like - Leave Me (Like You Found Me). It has a a song I am so-so about - Walken. I like or love the other 10 songs. 10 out of 12 is good, but for me this ranks it below several of their other albums. Still listen to it quite a bit, especially as my kids like it a lot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted September 11, 2011 Share Posted September 11, 2011 The first 5 tracks are perfect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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