LouieB

Good point all around.... A decade from now we will all be sitting around going....remember the good old days when people were buying vinyl again? Wonder what ever happened to that. My first record player had steel needles that you changed when one got dull (how did we know, you got me?). I wish I still had that to play the few 78s I own because it scares me to play 78s with a hi fi needle. LouieB

I just don't buy it (literally and figuratively.) I have heard and seen all kinds of high end equipment in my time congrats that you feel like you want and need it. I just don't think all that high end shit is worth it in the long run. Sardines are perfectly good food, in fact probably better than caviar. A reasonable turntable and amp plays perfectly good. There are people out there that believe 33.3 albums are inferior to 78s and there are LOTS of people who believe that tube amps are far better than transistors. I don't know, probably it is correct that a 78 played on a tube amp is be

As long as we are talking about up and comers...who the hell is Rocco DeLuca and the Burden? They are playing a free show courtesy of XRT at the Hideout this Saturday and also they have some very high profile gigs this month. Anyone got some info? LouieB

Was it the US version or the English version? LouieB

Discouraging someone from driving because they can't afford a Rolls makes no sense either. Listening to records is supposed to be fun not some sort of competition about who has the best equipment. I have had the same old amp and speakers for decades and I enjoy the hell out of them, whether playing tapes, LPs or CDs, it doesn't bother me. I know all you guys with the 3K systems would probably never put even one of my 4000 LPs on your system, which doesn't bother me in the least either (I drive a decade and a half old Toyota, which gets me from point A to point B just fine.) Like I said, ev

Like I said, everyone's MO is different. Personally I think this point of view is totally wrong, but what do I know, I just grew up with vinyl records (starting with 78s), so clearly I know very little. LouieB

yea, I saw them open for Wilco...they were pretty straight ahead and really goddamn loud. LouieB Oh sorry, I must have been thinking of Rosehill Cemetary near my house. I thought they had sort of a Stooges vibe myself. LouieB

There are three or four brilliant songs on L&T (Mississippi, High Water, Poor Boy)so I would tend to agree. I think Modern Times went down really good first play though. LouieB

Yea, I know....they are still brilliant...particularly the one of Nels and the one from behind Glenn. LouieB

Obviously I agree...but if you want to go up just one step try a used hi fi store also. Either way if you get one at a thrift shop there are still plenty of techs out there who can install a new cartridge and/or needle and you have a great turntable for the forseeable future. Every vinyl collector has a different MO, but for me the fun is finding crazy shit cheap in used record stores and thrift stores. If you aren't going for the high end 180 gram new stuff, there are tons of older LPs out there that play great and are fun to have. LouieB

Rosehill Drive?? LouieB

Yea....Patti...its time for her!!! LouieB

Yea..no shit!!!! We (or shall I say they) shall be fortunate if Fountains of Wayne, er...Kings of Leon are still a group anyone is interested in in two years. Well fortunately there are lots of car companies that use indie rock, etc. for their commericals. I always plotz when I hear what appers to be that Richard Buckner spot. (Is it him or is it someone who sounds a whole lot like him?) LouieB

I did pay attention and I did applaud them. Not sure what else you wanted me to do. That doesn't mean they should cope an attitude about an audience that either is or is not listening to them when they are lucky enough to be opening for Bob Dylan. As for the other comment about being the best straight up rock group by the time they are 30.....the highway is littered with groups that have tried to do that and end up has beens. LouieB

If you have that kind of money to spend on an audiophile set up, fine, but otherwise scale back and buy what you can afford. Clearly you can be totally compulsive about this and if you have the time and money for it, that's great. Most of us are somewhat poorer than that and even older non-perfect records are fun to listen to on moderately priced equipment. If you are going for THE best, then be prepared to pay alot. The rest of us just play vinyl records for the fun of it. LouieB

Boy that was for sure.......these guys ARE dead serious about playing generic R&R. As I mentioned in my thread, they even complimented the Saturday crowd for being more responsive than the Friday crowd. Tough fucking shit.....they are an opening act for a legend..the fact that anyone paid any attention either night should have been enough for them. LouieB

As for vinyl, find a store where they sell it. Browsing is terrific fun. Also used record stores are what make having vinyl a real kick; finding some obscure record for a reasonable price is the biggest kick in the world. Remember, don't ever pay too much for anything, because you will find it cheaper at some point. Obviously really obscure vinyl goes for alot on the open market, so try and find a reasonable and honest record store you can patronize. I have been totally astonished at the stuff I have found over the years. LouieB

Not at all, I just found it funny that my son recognized them from an ad. The kid clearly watches too much TV. The title of this thread DOES suggest they were better than Bobby D.....they weren't. Being orginal is not that big a deal either really. They are a very lucky band, getting to open for Dylan and getting their song picked for an ad. Not bad for a bunch of kids. (But as my son pointed out, unlike Dylan, they didn't do an ad for Victorias Secret.) LouieB

I don't know who took these pics, but they are brilliant.... LouieB

Thanks, I will pass that on to Brother Ray. We are in complete agreement. These guys are doing nothing new, although what they do ain't bad. Frankly I thought they would be a fine act to see at the Double Door or Metro, rather than an arena. LouieB

Vinyl used to be all there was and there are lots of good used vinyl records out there. The recent vinyl collecting mania may be shorter lived than we know, but only time will tell. The best old records are from the 50s-early 70s. While some new vinyl sounds great, some doesn't wear all that well. I have had well used albums from the 60s sound better in terms of pops and surface noise than some more recently minted albums that I have bought used. Frankly a rather inexpensive/refurbished turntable should work fine. Just make sure your tuner has the correct inputs, particularly a ground

Well as I said, KoL were okay. But I do have a question about them. Is one of their songs being used for a car commercial? My son swore he had heard one of the songs they sang in a commercial; or are they simply THAT generic? LouieB

Of course Dylan gets paid for this and he knows what the deal is. Why is anyone shocked at this point. Hell everyone uses songs to sell everything, this at least is a play. LouieB

In this case albums = CDs, not LPs. LouieB

I was agreeing with you also, I was responding Glennation. Just no way KoL is better than Dylan... LouieB