KevinG

Ouch, Jules you constantly flippant, you give one line comments and I have award time understanding what point you are trying to make. You come off insensitive and crass. I from your previous post, clearly that is not the case. It was a well reasoned thoughtful argument. Of course you go back with a your regular posts. I am sorry you took offense, but my thoughts remain the same. I think everyone would be better served if we thought about what we wrote. If that makes me a smug pompous ass, then so be it.

I think this article kinda sums up a lot of people's feeling on this whole issue. http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2012/06/18/ceo-pay-executive-compensation-up-5-percent-2011_n_1605648.html CEO pay is up 5% and worker wages are up 2.8%. BTW Jules you make a lot more sense (and are a more sensible fellow) when you actually think about what you write rather than being so damn flippant.

Why would you even consider something like that? In Josh's past any time he has relapsed he has been forthcoming to his family, team and media. I didn't even think that his stint in the hospital was due to anything more than the flu. In our culture obsessed society the only thing we love more than watching someone succeed is watching someone fail. And that is sad.

Cubs are now 22-43, worst in all of the majors. Good year to be a Cubs fan.

The profits ain't being used to hire. Nor are is it being used to reinvest back into their company. This goes back to my original point which no one seems to care about, but I will say it again. Businesses are unable (or unwilling) to hire at this time. What is the problem with government stepping in and hiring where needed?

I am the king of subtext. I draw lines where others don't even try. So how about the President today and stating the dept of Homeland Security not deporting young illegals. Steps to immigration reform or pure political pandering?

I took his statement to LouieB, where he called him dumb when he [LouieB] said that workers make stuff and business owners just hire, as an offense to people who are not in management or business owners. I took it as saying I could get anyone do work for me [Jules]. I do all the production, they [the workers] are cogs in the machine that I [Jules] created. I would hope that Jules does see the value in his workforce and there is no reason to think otherwise. But the whole his comment to LouieB really IMO came off as smug. Giving more importance to what he does over the workers. LouieB'

Wow, I am glad you have such a high opinion of your workers. So apparently your business could operate with syphilitic monkeys, since it is you who does all the hard work.

"The Wilco" that is funny

Another stimulus, is needed. I would argue the last stimulus was not big enough. Are the American people ready to hear that, prolly not. But it is needed. Local governments do not have the money to hire, so Obama is sugguesting the Federal governement help. I don't think it is an blank check proposal, also if memory serves the money for teachers etc would come form cuts to other programs. This sugguestion and other stimulus type programs are ment to kick start the economy. Here is the way it goes, government hires people > people have more money to buy things > businesses nee

I think you failed to get the point of the private sector is doing fine. You mention your company, who in the height of the recession slashed worked force. Then you go on to mention neighbors etc. who have been touched by this. My question to you is, have you looked recently at their profits? I would bet dollars to doughnuts that they are up. Furthermore, there are businesses that are up and down but on average corporate profits are up, it is just that they are not hiring, for whatever reason. I am not saying that the government shoudl go hire willy nilly when the private sector i

So the big "gaff" from Friday was Obama said that the private sector was doing just fine, and the governement needs to reinvest in teachers, police, and firefighters etc. The republicans immediatly responded that Obama was out of touch with what was wrong with the economy and how to fix it. Here is the thing, if you look at it the private sector is doing fine. Corporate profits are the highest they have been since the 1950s. Corporations have more money on hand then ever before. So they are making and keeping their money. Isn't that the defintion of doing fine? The problem is they are

building a team I see. Hope it works out.

I was pretty sure this was a thread about the Euro dollar and the debit crisis.

It still is awfully early. The popular vote is close but the electoral votes are really that close. The one thing is that Obama has a larger range of options electorally than Romney. But it is early, we'll have the whole Euro thing to deal with this summer, Syria, and job numbers which will hurt Obama in the next couple of months.

Solace you just sold me on the album. Gonna get it now.

and the circle is complete.

If there is any consolation in this whole mess it appears that one Democrat won last night (though the results have not been verified) and the Senate will be in Democratic control. This will hopefully temper the agenda pushing by the GOP and maybe there will be some compromise. Walker said he is willing to work with Democrats, I guess time will tell. Though I ain't holding my breath. Though like the current quagmire in our US government I have a feeling nothing is gonna get done. Democrats will stonewall just like the GOP is currently doing.

I don't think anyone would say that the public school system is perfect. It has some deep flaws and is in need of fixing. It has seemed to me that one of the goals of the republicans is to privatize education. Make the system bad enough to make people want private schools over public. One of the first step is vilifying teacher unions and underfunding the system. Mark my words you will see an even greater expanse into the school voucher system in WI. In fact in 2011 he did just that, http://blogs.edweek.org/edweek/state_edwatch/2011/06/wisconsin_approves_voucher_expansion.html So f

A court did but then it was overturned by a higher court, supreme if memory serves. Futhermore, Scott Walker has continued to further attack teacher's pay in other administrate rule change. http://host.madison.com/ct/news/opinion/editorial/scott-walker-s-war-on-teachers/article_db34c33a-8f4d-11e1-9124-001a4bcf887a.html So you still proud, after hearing Beltmann's story? You say you are sorry about what has happened to Beltmann, but you can see how that comes off as disingenuous.

A balance budget at what cost? Cuts to Education, cuts to the poor. The budget was balanced on backs of the middle class and the poor.

Well all major news organizations here are reporting Walker wins. Well I guess the people of Wisconsin have spoken. I can only assume that tomorrow jobs will be flooding into the state.

I don't think any of us will change each others mind. You see what the Walker did as fine, I do not. We each could bring up statistics, anecdotes, whatever. And you know it won't matter. The back and forth is tedious. But you know what, I live in Wisconsin, I used my right to vote, I feel proud of my vote. Beyond what got WI to this point, it will be interesting where we will go from here. My predictions, the Election will be so close it will end up being in a recount. We won't know who won until mid June. Tensions are gonna be really high here. Also predictable spin: If Walker

You see managing, I see pushing an agenda that is not needed.

That is horrible. If they find out whatever group is responsible I hope they are punished. Bleed I am going to call you out on your "That's funny" statement. It is not, there absolutely nothing funny about it. Every US citizen has the right to vote. You may not agree with a person's views, but everyone has the right to vote.