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yeah TMT are at least funny, that's the difference, Pfork are usually just smug/snarky

also... Shankill Butchers?? seems like that song fills that niche

go see The Frames if you want to hear it live

def a solid 7.5-8 record for me, if not higher. like poon said, nothing groundbreaking, just really haunting & gorgeous melodies, and it works really really well as a full album, which always helps for me. funny that 2 of my fave records this year (Midlake & Tim O'Reagan) are total 70's throwbacks

i hear what you're saying, but Sons & Daughters kinda gives me those same feelings as those other tracks for me...

re: pfork news style, i agree, most of the time i'm thinking the same thing as you "just out with the fucking news, i don't care about your stupid personal anticdotes" i can't wait to see them give the new Arcade Fire a bad review just because the band refused to play their festival last year.

^^ i agree w/ you that the moving to NY thing doesn't seem like the easier move. but as i said above, i think Thax may be just out of touch w/ reality in terms of being able to make it as a poet in 2006.

you missed my point almost completely my point was the struggle that artists make between finding time to focus on their art/craft and working jobs they hate, it's not a matter of not wanting to work necessarily, it's a matter of focus, and i've been there myself (i currently am actually). i know from experience, t's not very easy to try and focus on your music/art when it's convenient and when you can find the free time. you spend your waking ours at working dreaming/thinking about doing what you love, and your work often suffers as a result, ie: the struggle. also, it doesn't sound like

hey, i'm not going to get into this same old argument again. as i've stated before, if you find Pfork to be a valuable resource for you, more power to you. i just personally don't get much out of reading their site other than week old news and snarky/snide reviews. i can count on my hands the number of times my thoughts on a record actually agreed with theirs much (my year end list usually has MAYBE 2-3 records in common out of 10-15). the same Marc Hogan who gave IFB an 8.4, gave Sound Team a retardedly undeserving 3.7 or whatever and Midlake's new one an underrated 6.8. sometimes they us

yeah, not surprised that some older fans feel this way actually...

while i agree Thax's attitude towards getting a "real" job in which he can support his true love is a bit off... it's no different than the tens of thousands of young bands who just want top lay music for a living (something that is much more possible than writing poetry for a living). having had that dream come and go throughout my almost 30 years, i can fully understand the desire to not want to work a "real" job, and to just do what you truly love. in fact i still struggle with that on a pretty regular basis... do i give up my fairly decent paying job to do what i truly love (not music),

and i agree w/ you SS

it's def less gimmicky, but it's also a lot less acoustic/folky too, more towards prog rock at times. the songwriting has just really matured a lot i think

totally agree actually kinda shocked how good it is

it's not bad, it's just that it doesn't offer a ton of variation IMO, which with stuff that kitschy/sunny, is usually a necessity with me. i'm sure they'd be a blast live, much like Polyphonic Spree, but they for some reason seem a bit more pretentious/gimicky than TPS for me, dunno why.

they look like Up With People in that video the record isn't all that great imo... even the Polyphonic Spree, whom i like some, get a bit tiring after a short while, this did even quicker for me. musically tho, hey remind me of The Boy Least Likely To some, who rule.

the last one had about 6 or 7 good tracks between the 2 albums...

i dig 'em...

def better than the last one (would that bet that hard though?), but they really haven't blown me away since Aquemini, as good as Stankonia was...

you didn't just diss John Cougar did you???????????? btw, Ethan Johns produced Gold, fwiw

September 11 - Seattle, WA - Showbox September 12 - San Francisco, CA - The Fillmore September 13 - Los Angeles - The Avalon September 15 - Wash DC - 9:30 Club September 16 - Philadelphia, PA - Trocadaro September 17 - New York, NY - Webster Hall September 18 - Boston, MA - Paradise September 19 - Chicago, IL - Vic Theatre Tim O'Reagan and his band are now opening the entire tour, what a great bill

i realize that, but they didn't recieve any money for the ad itself, which was my point: http://www.usatoday.com/tech/products/gear...8-u2-ipod_x.htm

sounds sweet

yep, they did... i saw them on the Warped Tour in 2000 and they were absolutely fantastic. up there with the talent of the Roots as far as live hip hop goes. like i said, their transformation into a mainstream product happened when Fergie joined the band a few years ago. i'm starting to realize some people didn't even know she wasn't always in the band sadly.

correct, they didn't