Some recent Ryan Adams messageboard posts

[oatmealblizzard]

This post is a bit long, but I found these entertaining. Sorry if they are posted elsewhere. But Friday Stereogum posted a message supposedly posted by Ryan Adams on a message board that said the following:

 

ALBUM NEWS- three new albums again this year (i hope)

Author: whatever its Ryan

7/13/06 5:15:31 AM

First record is getting mixed and mastered while we are on the road. Its the first of three. Its solo.

Its called "Blackhole". Johnny on drums, me on everythinbg else. lots of raw guitar and kinda sexy/ damaged tunes. My favorite easily.

Second record. I am in the studio as we speak finishing it. Its a double record, meaning around 30 songs. Its called, and I know its bogus but I dont care, its called "War and Peace". Its about cleaning up my act. I play everything and it has every style, every true guitar part, every type of soing (sometimes within one tune) to express what I have been going thru for awhile. Its hard to listen to back for me lyrically but musically all over the map. punkish stuff, some sabbath garteful mix, some silly pop, smiths disco, and sonic youth vibes and me and the songs on the piano like everything dies, and dont get sentimental and lighthnouses.

 

the third, CARDINALS, we started this already before our break before rehearsals for this tour, and we have 16 tracks, but half of those are good enough and half arent. "Two hearts" "Two" and a few others people might remember from past live shows are included. its gonna have just 11 songs, just 11 so maybe that"ll shut em" up after rest. no album title for that. might be called "star wars" if we caan get away with it as there is a badass tune called starwars on there. its pretty funny/ stoney.

So everybody thats the word. Time and Label willing and if Jamie C. and I can keep up and I can the art done in time, we are in buisness.

Ill work on the art in the bus before gigs maybe.

again sorr for the web site delay, its coming, there alot of people on it, and Dave, your site is going ace and the folks seem to dig it and get their fun in too. I got yr. email but the password you gave me doesnt work so i just been usuing this.

SPRING US- CARDINALS

CALI- CARDS

FIN CARDS REC> RECORDS COME OUT (fingers crosses)...

FALL UK IRE SCOT SPAIN SWEDEN NORWAY FRANCE SCAND> who knows.

thats all folks.

btw I "HIGHLY" recommend 'Undewrworld 1" and "Underworld Evolution" on DVD. total after session fishtanker.

xx

 

 

After a bunch of douchebags sounded off in the comments, this post appeared:

 

i find it very interesting that people, who are in their rights, to critique records, actually spend time/ have the balls to go so far as to judge the process of how records or made, or how often. As if the process and the selection of songs or the concepts were open to the listener, like a record by an artist was a collective expierence even before a record was done.

As somebody who makes records, loves making records in fact, and loves writing songs, I can say honestly that no matter how bad a record may seem to suck or how little it means to a listener, they do not appear as if my magic without a thoughtful process. It isnt as though a person is standing in front of a recording machine thinking, how can i most effectively waste my own time. The MEAN SOMETHING to the person who makes them. And to be inspired to want to create something that doesnt hurt other people and is come kind of expression of their expierence on earth is by far a better way to spend ones time than to be judgemental and threatened by it.

Music is a conversation. Its open. Its not as if by releasing a record someone is banging on your door demanding you listen. its just a record. so as an adult, make decisions and decided if you want to or dont want to listen to someone when they make music. but you know, people can try and be alittle bit bigger than to demonise someone for playing music. funny how it matters so much to people at what rate music is made as if that affected its meaning. my records mean something to me, and some songs mean things to some people and others mean nothing. thats the point. a shared expierence. i wake up to play music and i enjoy every minute and it can be alot to work on that much music at once. i like to think i work as hard on writing than anything else i do. and to have people invalidate what it means to share my expierences in a song because there are "too many" and to hear people say things like- one record would have been awesome, but three was stuipd is really boring and just sounds bitter. its as if you were overcharged. my records dont cost more because there are more songs. in fact cold roses was regular priced and i made sure of it by losing money to make it available to people as one piece of music. its just information. vital to the story i am telling. so its pretty weird to hear people talk about there being too much information and they would be more informed about my mjsic if there were less. alot of music doesnt make it onto records its doesnt fit the theme or is our of context or simply it is crap. i dont put that music out. but i work my ass off and snake my way through so much red tape and fight so hard to put the records i want to reflect who i am into a public forum where people can choose to listen or not. and i am not asking to be rewarded for it, but if its not your scene then cool. but dont go doggin on somebody cause they want to fucking pick up a pen and tell a story. if these people are so eductaed about the recording process and how records should be, then may i ask, "Where is your record". i imagine there isnt one and if there were to be, they would have to work on it until its perfect. till its 11 songs and they are all essential. so thats my 2 cents. back to the studio. i hope people find their own way and learn to stop hating on everything. hate is the new smart it seems, and the new "smart" is pretty stupid.

have a nice weekend.

ryan jefferson starship double album adams

 

And then he followed it up with this...

 

let me make it so it is easier to understand. i released three records when i did because,

1. I had enough material written sans music while i was recovering from 6 months of wrist surgery and muscle rehabilitation that i was as prepared to tell a story vital to what led up to my having to go through all of it in the first place. and i lost people i cared about. i felt like sharing that. 29 took months to write, out of endless pages of writing. every song on that record means something to the other and without sounding like it is some landmark record, to call it "crap" or a sound record, well obviously the lyrics are being overlooked. its not crap. its fucking sad. its about myself, an actual living breathing person on earth like yourself who made some music, about dying, about living. i cant believe how little some people think thiws shit means to put out there. and the other two records, which i made with a band that i am in, a band that i love to be in alot, were written WITH the band. where the content goes through 5 filters not just one and means somethingf to everyone in the band. that, in itself, was new and i became as much a messenger as the message. there are alot of really complex and really beautiful moments on cold roses and JCN and sure, some people go "Summer of 69", thats their answer to 7 months in the rehearsal and studio to prepare for doing something like what we did with those three records. all i can say is i broke myself trying to make it all work and it was about ego or dick swaggering to release a fucking record. there were things to say and jams.

what a great world. why would aanybody want to think of this as the dark aages of music because some people want to get up and do their fucking job they were meant to do?

die in a plane crash, summer of 69, crap, etc.

i wonder sometimes why i give a fuck really. its impossible to keep the faith in times like this when armchair critics and people who have nothing but bad vibes for artists are out there with hunting rifles waiting for the ducks to take off and blast em out of the sky every time they want to express themselves.

music is wonderful and a beautiful process and i wake up every day and i got to work. its what i do and what i love to do and id like to get better at it but as far as i am concerned anyone with enough guts, anyone brave enough, to put anything out into this world, be it a rush cover band, or what ever band the summer of 69 guys have in their moms basement to a rachmaninov compliation, gets the badge of courage. i see alot of bored people doing their small part in poooling their negativity on people who make art and its disgusting. it really is.

i personally like it better knowing i am on the side of guitar that tells the story. not the side that wishes the guy was dead or wouldnt share so much. and weeding through songs must be such a chore. somehow it has been the light of my life to listen to records and to find those songs that mean so much to me coming out of the same shitty speakers over and over sounding like testimony and truth. i guess i just consider myself a believer, you know, i am still looking for that magic moment and the more i listen and the more i write and the more i play the more i feel that same thing i did when i listened to s.y. sister for the first time or elo on thee radio for thee first time. or mr. saturday night special for the first time. some of those people did die in a plane crash. they were on their way to make some music for some people. they were on their way. busy in their life, telling their story.

the free flow and exchange of ideas and people connecting on these strange plateaus and having these transcendental converssations, i guess i just live for that. its beautiful and honorable no matter what part of it you are on. it really is. and there are always gonna be bitter haters. people who are ready to knock it because there is always somebody better or "cooler" or whatever that means.

i didnt learn how to be cool from my records. i learned about who other people were and i learned something about myself from listening.

i guess if i spent more time being negative and dismisssive i might be cool enought one day to unsatisfied enough to limit my view to only myself and what i did not like.

then i could come in here and tell people that their life work, their dreams and what they did with them were meaningless and crap and worthy of only a slap on the wrist.

in the meanwhile, i think id like to continue what i have been doing.

participating.

so like Ian said when he was saying what WIRE said, "stand up and be counted"

so stand up. do something then. make a noise. bring some fucking new ideas.

stop fucking tearing people down. get busy.

thats really all i can say. you know, before someone says summer of 69 or whatever again.

thats all.

i get really disappointed with all this sometimes. its very strange.

take care/ take it easy.

x

[Spawn's dad]

don't we hate this guy?

[oatmealblizzard]

"ryan jefferson starship double album adams"

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I think Ryan messed up his Minor Threat reference at the end.

[JUDE]

JCN > AGIB

[wheelco]

"anger managment seminars"

[imsjry]

don't we hate this guy?

 

I do not hate him at all. I do wish he didn't give such a shit what critics or fans on his message board think. He has some great points in this post but man, what a waste of time responding to his own message board! I'd rather assume my favorite artists are above reading posts about themselves....

[j4lackey]

I like that he enjoys being part of the bitchy online community. And I love his songs. He reaches farther with his writing than most artists working today.

[heile]

JCN > AGIB

[Spawn's dad]

I'd rather assume my favorite artists are above reading posts about themselves....

 

jeff?

[Smokestack Joe]

i wonder what he thinks about Tim McGraw's cover of "When The Stars Go Blue?"

[Mr. Kinsley]

Why do we care about what Ryan thinks about someone covering a Corrs song?*

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

*Yes, I'm kidding.

[a.miller]

IMO Mr Adams should whittle down the large number of songs he as created and simply put out one extraordinary album. Unless, of course, all of the new songs are great. But usually it seems when artists release multiple albums in a year there are some songs that didn't need to make the cut. Just my $.02

[caliber66]

IMO Mr Adams should whittle down the large number of songs he as created and simply put out one extraordinary album. Unless, of course, all of the new songs are great. But usually it seems when artists release multiple albums in a year there are some songs that didn't need to make the cut. Just my $.02

 

Have you listened to any of the three albums?

[solace]

IMO Mr Adams should whittle down the large number of songs he as created and simply put out one extraordinary album. Unless, of course, all of the new songs are great. But usually it seems when artists release multiple albums in a year there are some songs that didn't need to make the cut. Just my $.02

funny thing is, people bitch about this, but look at the Beatles, or most any act in the 60's and 70's?

 

2 albums a year was not out of the ordinary

 

it's a silly thing to bitch about imo. the music industry has changed for the worse in that regards

[Saint Genevieve]

Ryan Adams needs a proofreader.

[solace]

or if you happen to like about 97.85% of what he's written... not really

[Duck-Billed Catechist]

I think she's talking about his message board posts.

[Saint Genevieve]

I think she's talking about his message board posts.

 

[solace]

o i c

 

well, there's been a lot of imposters before as well, but he does write that poorly usually

[Duck-Billed Catechist]

I'm not sure if posing as a celebrity on the internet is above or below writing, say, Mario Brothers fan fiction.

[Elixir Sue]

I Ryan Adams, whether that's him or not. Bring on 3 new albums!!

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Mario Brothers fan fiction.

 

Please tell me this really exists and isn't just an example you made up.

[solace]

punkish stuff, some sabbath garteful mix, some silly pop, smiths disco, and sonic youth vibes and me and the songs on the piano like everything dies, and dont get sentimental and lighthnouses.

 

that sounds both horrendous and insanely intriguing at the same time

 

Please tell me this really exists and isn't just an example you made up.

http://www.nintendoland.com/cgi-bin/fanfic...;category=mario

 

 

 

 

 

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In light of this new information, Ryan Adams can make as many albums as he wants to this year.