Some recent Ryan Adams messageboard posts

[cassius]

Did you literally do the arithmetic on this?

 

Fuck no. See also songs that mention "The Bar"

 

Cassius

[jdlee23]

Fuck no. See also songs that mention "The Bar"

 

Cassius

 

Oi. No need to curse. So, if you did no arithmetic, why 86.75%? Actually, it's a pretty good number. Maybe I'll go with 66.67%, though. Sounds more reasonable for my tastes, and we take care of that infinitely repeating 2/3.

[Lammycat]

I saw Phil & Friends Tuesday. They did THREE Ryan songs, thus pissing off a bunch of old hippies. Encored with My Sweet Carolina. Real good show.

Were folks actually pissed off? Strikes me as odd as Phil & Friends have been covering Ryan tunes without Ryan in the band since at least December of this past year. Phil's obviously got great respect for Ryan as a song-writer, as well he should.

[Aarvid]

some of the tracks on those are so superior to what's been released it does give one pause. the version of la cienga just smiled is heart wrenching. i just don't get some of the choices that are made in production and release.

 

 

 

Which version is this and where might I hear it??

 

 

 

can I get some help with this too?

please?!?

[Analogman]

can I get some help with this too?

please?!?

 

 

You can find them all over the web - I think there is a Ryan Adams/Whiskeytown torrent site you can sign up on - I am sure you can find them there.

[Aarvid]

fair enough. but there are so many available.

which one in particular is being referenced here?

[Analogman]

http://www.answeringbell.com/

 

dig around on there - under Unofficial Releases.

[Aarvid]

thx!

[Analogman]

Here is what I have - there is a lot more than this out there of course:

 

 

Band/Artist: Whiskeytown

Date:

Venue:

Location:

Source:

Notes: Fucker: The Bug Sessions & The Hoboken Sessions

Set/Track list: Disc 1

 

1. Sit And Listen To The Rain

2. Night Lights (a/k/a Leave The Lights Off)

3. Probably Gonna Happen (a/k/a Bound To Happen)

4. West NY Serenade (a/k/a What Makes The World Like This)

5. Lil' Girls (a/k/a Hurts Sometimes)

6. In The World (a/k/a Tearing Me Up Inside)

7. Medicine

8. Today

9. Clearly Destroyed

10. Believe

11. Fool To You

12. Gonna Win

13. All I Wanted (a/k/a Comfortable Only At Night)

14. Out Of Time

15. Bar Lights

 

Band/Artist: Whiskeytown

Date:

Venue:

Location:

Source:

Notes: The Fucker #2 Sessions/The Forever Valentine Sessions

Set/Track list: Disc 1

 

1. In My Time Of Need (alt. demo version)

2. Bar Lights

3. Win

4. All I Wanted (a/k/a Comfortable Only At Night)

5. Out Of Time

6. Sit And Listen To The Rain

7. Night Lights (a/k/a Leave The Lights Off)

8. Probably Gonna Happen (a/k/a Bound To Happen)

9. West NY Serenade (a/k/a What Makes The World Like This)

10. Lil' Girls (a/k/a Hurts Sometimes)

11. In The World (a/k/a Tearing Me Up Inside)

12. Medicine

The Forever Valentine Sessions

13. Anyone But Me (a/k/a Dial Tone)

14. Don't Wanna Know Why

15. Easy Hearts

16. Sittin' Around

17. Rays Of Burning Light (a/k/a Rays Of Light)

18. Ghost Without Memory

19. Runnin' Out Of Road

20. Can't Take A Lover (a/k/a Talkin' In My Sleep)

21. Think About Me (a/k/a (What You) Think About Me)

22. Crazy Lonesome (a/k/a A Memory Away)

 

Band/Artist: Whiskeytown

Date:

Venue:

Location:

Source:

Notes: Stranger's Almanac Promo/Those Weren't The Days

Set/Track list: Disc 1

 

1. My Heart Is Broken

2. Things I Heard (a.k.a Streets With Sirens)

3. Luxury Liner

4. Kiss & Make Up

5. Further Down The Road (aka Indian Gown)

6. Breathe (aka Believe)

7. Ten Seconds To The End Of The World

8. The Rain Won't Help You When It's Over

9. Ticket Time

10. Wither, I'm A Flower

11. Hipshake

12. Here's To The Rest Of The World

13. Empty Baseball Park

14. San Antone

15. Factory Girl

16. All You Can Feel

17. New York Angel

18. Only To Lose

 

 

Band/Artist: Ryan Adams

Date:

Venue:

Location:

Source:

Notes: Fool's Gold - Bonus Tracks & Outtakes

Set/Track list: Disc 1

 

1. Rosalie Come & Go (Gold, Side 4 Bonus Disc)

2. The Fools We Are As Men (Gold, Side 4 Bonus Disc)

3. Sweet Black Magic (Gold, Side 4 Bonus Disc)

4. The Bar is a Beautiful Place (Gold, Side 4 Bonus Disc)

5. Cannonball Days (Gold, Side 4 Bonus Disc)

6. Fool's Gold (Unreleased, Gold Outtake)

7. Dear Chicago [Alt. Version] (Unreleased, Gold Outtake)

8. Brown Sugar [with Beth Orton] (Uncut Gimme Shelter Compilation - 2001)

9. Blue (Demolition, European Bonus Disc)

10. Song For Keith (Demolition, European Bonus Disc)

11. Hypnotixed (Rock N Roll Bonus Track [uK])

12. Funeral Marching (Rock N Roll Bonus Track [Japan])

13. Caterwaul (Love is Hell Pt. 1 Bonus Track [uK])

14. Halloween (Love is Hell Pt. 1 Bonus Track [uK])

15. Fuck the Universe (Love is Hell Pt. 2 Bonus Track [uK])

16. Twice as Bad as Love (Love is Hell Pt. 2 Bonus Track [uK])

17. Anybody Want to Take Me Home [Alt. Version] (Love is Hell LP)

18. Tonight (Cold Roses Bonus Track [uK])

19. Operator, Operator (Cold Roses Bonus Track [Japan])

20. So Hot, So Cold (Cold Roses BSide [Japan])

21. Always On My Mind (Jacksonville City Nights Bonus Track [uK])

22. Jeane (Jacksonville City Nights Bonus Track [uK])

23. New York, New York [Live in Amsterdam] (Demolition, European Bonus Disc)

24. To Be Young (Is to Be Sad, Is to Be High) [Live In Amsterdam] (Demolition, European Bonus Disc)

[Aarvid]

yeah, I've got some of the unofficial releases already...

exile on franklin street, destroyer sessons, suicide handbook, etc

 

it's about time to grab a fw more looks like.

[Welsh Rich]

Didn't Matt, Wild Mercury Sound, put together a YSI at one point with all the b-sides and the like on one "disc"?? I wonder if he's still got that - some excellent stuff on there.

[Euan]

would someone be kind enough to post some of the un-official albums, i got exile on franklin street and and suicide handbook. didn't relaise there were unofficial whiskeytown discs about too.

[j4lackey]

Didn't Matt, Wild Mercury Sound, put together a YSI at one point with all the b-sides and the like on one "disc"?? I wonder if he's still got that - some excellent stuff on there.

He did a great job on that. I love those comps!

[Analogman]

It's the last thing listed in my post above.

[WildMercurySound]

Didn't Matt, Wild Mercury Sound, put together a YSI at one point with all the b-sides and the like on one "disc"?? I wonder if he's still got that - some excellent stuff on there.

 

i still have it, but it's on my old computer. if anyone really wants it i'm sure i can get the old beast fired up one more time.

[Aarvid]

I wouldn't turn it down, wildmercurysound.

[Jaymie]

I think it

[Boots]

Because I believe in my heart some kind soul will send me the new Dylan record when/if it leaks I'm going to put up all the RA boots I have here at work.

 

48 Hours

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?acti...BA68CA26F0E76D0

 

Destroyer

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?acti...9F3F7FC0EFEBA68

 

 

Suicide Handbook

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?acti...0C00AFC59490E31

 

Franklin Street

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?acti...E46902E37E75507

 

Heartbreaker Demos

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?acti...746CE163A7E9587

 

B-Sides (The ones WMS posted- missing track 20)

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?acti...D076BD86FC2FA8D

 

Sweedish (missing track 6)

http://www.yousendit.com/transfer.php?acti...341F97B42EDA135

 

Enjoy

[Azzurri]

I think it

[a.miller]

Because I believe in my heart some kind soul will send me the new Dylan record when/if it leaks I'm going to put up all the RA boots I have here at work.

Thank you for these. If I get my hands on the new Dylan, you'll get it.

[Jaymie]

I wouldn't call Cold Roses or JCN mediocre - i think most people would agree that they are very good. 29 is admittedly the weaker of the three. In fact, i think Cold Roses is superior to Heartbreaker, but i suspect i am in the minority on that opinion. most bands/artists struggle to put out just one "very good" record in their whole career.

 

if he released 9 songs every three years, people would complain that he is not prolific enough. so you can't win.

 

 

You know what, actually, I've always thought "Love Is Hell pts.1 and 2" was classic. But I'm always sort of hesitent to admit that, but, you're very right, "Cold Roses" is exceptionally good. I just don't think it has the stark emotional weight that made "Heartbreaker" so essential.

[Campaigner]

You know what, actually, I've always thought "Love Is Hell pts.1 and 2" was classic. But I'm always sort of hesitent to admit that, but, you're very right, "Cold Roses" is exceptionally good. I just don't think it has the stark emotional weight that made "Heartbreaker" so essential.

 

I rate 'Cold Roses' above 'Heartbreaker'. In fact, I rate JCN on the same line as 'Heartbreaker'. There's some classic songs there, but there's just a few which make me skip to the next track, and I don't normally keep listening after 'Shakedown on 9th St'. 'Cold Roses' is one that I listen all the way through most of the time. There aren't songs that I skip every time, and altough I may skip them every now and then, I don't hate them.

[Jaymie]

I rate 'Cold Roses' above 'Heartbreaker'. In fact, I rate JCN on the same line as 'Heartbreaker'. There's some classic songs there, but there's just a few which make me skip to the next track, and I don't normally keep listening after 'Shakedown on 9th St'. 'Cold Roses' is one that I listen all the way through most of the time. There aren't songs that I skip every time, and altough I may skip them every now and then, I don't hate them.

 

I always kinda thought that "Shakedown On 9th Street" fucked up the continuity of "Heartbreaker".

It still sounds displaced and irelivent. I think even Ryan Jeffersion Starship Double Album Adams would agree that that particular cut was very disposeable...

 

I don't know...

 

I feel like "Heartbreaker" is Ryan's most (and I think only) critically lauded album.

Shit, didn't pitchfork even give it like a 9.0??

And said logic agrees with my own perspective so...I don't know...Maybe everyone should post thier favorite Ryan Adams album and explain why to get the actual street census

[Elixir Sue]

I always kinda thought that "Shakedown On 9th Street" fucked up the continuity of "Heartbreaker".

It still sounds displaced and irelivent. I think even Ryan Jeffersion Starship Double Album Adams would agree that that particular cut was very disposeable...

Exactly. "Shakedown on 9th Street":

[imsjry]

Back to the topic of the thread, here are some rants from the other day.....

 

 

Here's Adams replies to the total bashing he was taking over there

about the short show in Knoxville.

 

 

KNOXVILLE TRUTH

Author: Ryan 7/27/06 4:32:43 AM

the reality is...every show has a curfew. fucking fact. I keep

seeeing or hearing this childish bullshit and i will settle it for

once and for all.

The Venue or whatever venue we are playing, have employees. they

have staff. we have a roadcrew and driving time and onyl so many

hours to get our equpitment rig packed before these people go home.

Also theaters have CURFEWS...they do. esp. seated venues.

Knoxville had a strict 11-00 curfew. it was no smoking and 11 firm.

we get charged money by the minute after the time we are to be off.

because the bartenders and staff all have lives and familys and it

takes time to close the venue up and get things set up for the next

show.

i left the stage AFTER 11. 5 minutres after. I respect house rules

because i want to be able to play places again and not burn

promoters and not fuck over house staff.

I talked about this before but nobody listens. Whatevewr i had to

say at the end of the show was just that. and of course something

else.

it has no effect on the gig,

and you know, i am happy to play all fucking night. its why we ride

all that way to play. thats what i want to do. play.

not fucking talk about heartbreaker by the bus, not fucking listen

to some drunk rant about god knows what, ive been there done that. i

want to play. aside from tuning issues because the a.c. changed alot

from soundcheck to gig, there was alot of focus and we opted for

some other songs than the set list tunes because like all bands we

adapt to the surroundings and our shit was screwey. so we did our

thing and kept it rolling.

and i am so sick off the whole "he talked too much, didnt talk

enough shit" it means nothing,

I am not on tour to be your friend, I am on tour to be in the

cardubaks and sing and play guitar and get first place on galaga.

thats it.

so stop it with all this projecting drama on us in here. some of you

people are so crazy. you dont know us. just listen to the music,

its just some tunes.

sheesh

 

 

Re: KNOXVILLE TRUTH

Author: Ryan 7/27/06 4:53:53 AM

well. you know. i just want to play and have a kick ass time on

stage with the lovelys up there and go and play some video games and

have some quiet time.

our best gigs happen when people are the most chill. you know, its

weird because i am not a famous person but i have trouble just

hanging round sometimes without people getting stirred up. i think

its trhat whole entertainment tonight celebrity mag type b.s.

culture spilling over to the rock world or something.

i wouldnt dare bother another musician unless you know, i needed to

borrow something. or they were hot. ha.

seriously though, the bus is our ride man. its not THE STAGE PART 2.

we gotta live outta that shit while we are rolling. people gotta

have some respect.

besides, i dont like talking about music when im not on stage. i

just want to be left alone.

and that shit was NOT FUCKING happening in Knoxville. nice folks but

a bit hammered overall it seemed and i couldeent get food before we

left and shake hands and babies too. and i needed to get set up

before our drive.

so thats that.

its all cool.

youd think we walked in that place and just vomited on stage and

left after how they talked about it.

def. not coming back to knoxville after this. couldnt care less.

 

 

DEAR KNOXVILLE FANS

Author: Ryan 7/27/06 5:27:27 AM

OK

NOW I AM PISSED.

I READALL YOUR FUCKING COMPLAINTS.

WE DID NOT CUT THE RFUCKING SET SHORT. THE CURFEW TIME THE CREW TOLD

US WAS 11OCLOCK. YOUR LOCAL VENUE WANTED A 90MINUTE SET.

IF YOU DIDNT LIKE THE SHOW, WHY WAS EVERYBODY HAVING SUCK A GOOD

TIME CHEERING AND GETTING BOMBED AND CALLING OUT SONGS?

FUCK OFF

I DONT GIVE A FUCK. YOU THINK I WANTED TO PLAY ONLY 90 minutes. THAT

I WOULD TRAVEL ALL THAT WAY TO HAVE A SHORT SHOW??????

WHATEVER.

ITS OBVIOUS WHY BANDS STOP COMING THERE. CUFEW TIMES AND FUCKED UP

STUDENTS WHO DONT UNDERSTAND WHAT PERSONAL SPACE MEANS. I PLAYED,

THEY HOUSE HAD ITS RULES, WE LEFT.

SO DONT WORRY.

I WONT BOTHER NEXT TIME. SERIOUSLY. I WILL PLAY SOMEWHERE ELSE AND

WILL SLEEP LIKE A FUCKING BABY AS WE ROLL PAST YA.

ltr.