Ghost of Electricity Posted August 20, 2013 Share Posted August 20, 2013 what i'm about to tell you is based on simple trial and error experience, and limited at that, so take it with a grain on salt. only two bit, really: 1. the best basic amplified tone that i got out of my accoustic was through a bass amplifier. 2. i hate chorus, but a touch with shallow depth at a slow speed ( so it doesn't sound "chorusy")might help it cut through the mix. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bosco Posted August 21, 2013 Share Posted August 21, 2013 I suddenly find myself playing acoustic guitar quite a bit live which is a new experience for me. I have never really studied up on how to get a good tone. I have a Taylor 414CE that I am plugging into a Fender acoustisonic amp. I am thinking about maybe adding some sort of EQ or preamp type pedal. Anybody have experience with any of these?: L.R. Baggs Para Acoustic DIRadial tonebone PZ-DeluxeFishman Aura Spectrum DI Or am I going down the wrong road? What year is the Taylor, does it have the ES system, if it does which version of the ES? Remember the output of an ES Taylor system is balanced, so the cable you use maters and in theory you don't actually need a DI. I have a Taylor GA8e (essentially an 814e no cut away), I run it through the Taylor K4 preamp and couldn't be happier. I run a reverb through the loop and use the Roland AC60 amp which I can also run a vocal mic into. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moss Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 What year is the Taylor, does it have the ES system, if it does which version of the ES? Remember the output of an ES Taylor system is balanced, so the cable you use maters and in theory you don't actually need a DI. I have a Taylor GA8e (essentially an 814e no cut away), I run it through the Taylor K4 preamp and couldn't be happier. I run a reverb through the loop and use the Roland AC60 amp which I can also run a vocal mic into.The guitar is a 2002 with a Fishman Prefix Plus (9-volt battery) if that helps. The sound is not bad by any means, even going direct. And the acoustisonic has some built in Phaser and Chorus stuff I need to play around with a bit more. As with all my guitars, the tone does not yet satisfy and I assume I can make it better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Bosco Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 In that case any off the DI/preamps you mentioned would work, for a bit more though you can probably pick up a used K4, I picked mine up on eBay for about $275, if you are unfamiliar with the unit here's a link to a review: http://www.in2guitar.com/k4.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
choo-choo-charlie Posted August 22, 2013 Share Posted August 22, 2013 I've owned several different axes through the years -- a few varieties of Fender Strats, an Epiphone double-neck (a high school purchase), an Epiphone hollowbody, among others -- and probably about eight years ago completely ditched all my electric gear and went full-on acoustic. My two primary guitars are a Cordoba classical and an Epiphone AJ-220S. I have a Yamaha acoustic that I don't play...because it's autographed by all the members of Wilco. After giving it a lot of thought, I've decided to get back into the electric market. I live in a small town with two music shops, one of which is a Fender dealer. So I'm probably gonna go check out some Strats and Teles. I've always loved the Strat but am curious about Teles. I've borrowed a few from friends and enjoyed playing them, but haven't time to really investigate all that can be done with a Tele. I hope to be posting something new here soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moss Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 In that case any off the DI/preamps you mentioned would work, for a bit more though you can probably pick up a used K4, I picked mine up on eBay for about $275, if you are unfamiliar with the unit here's a link to a review: http://www.in2guitar.com/k4.htmlOoh, that does look nice! I will check it out. I've owned several different axes through the years -- a few varieties of Fender Strats, an Epiphone double-neck (a high school purchase), an Epiphone hollowbody, among others -- and probably about eight years ago completely ditched all my electric gear and went full-on acoustic. My two primary guitars are a Cordoba classical and an Epiphone AJ-220S. I have a Yamaha acoustic that I don't play...because it's autographed by all the members of Wilco. After giving it a lot of thought, I've decided to get back into the electric market. I live in a small town with two music shops, one of which is a Fender dealer. So I'm probably gonna go check out some Strats and Teles. I've always loved the Strat but am curious about Teles. I've borrowed a few from friends and enjoyed playing them, but haven't time to really investigate all that can be done with a Tele. I hope to be posting something new here soon. I can't possibly recommend the 52 re-issue Tele enough. It quickly became my go to guitar in almost all situations. I play 90% of our live shows with it. I played through a bunch of but the 52 just had that sound you expect from a tele. It stays in tune really well, so comfortable to play, I love that guitar. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
choo-choo-charlie Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Went guitar shopping during my lunch break. Didn't come back with anything, but the two standouts were:A replica of Neil Young's "Old Black," as seen here. It was actually really cool. The luthier at the shop took a Gibson neck and headstock to an Epiphone body and did all the work to give it the vintage look. The mini humbucker sounded great, as did the P-90 in the neck. I'd never played around with a Bigsby tremolo before -- that took some getting used to.An early 1980s, Japanese-made Kent Telecaster knockoff. Maple neck with a turquoise-blue finish. Kind of like this. Someone put a humbucker in the bridge. The playability on it was sweet, real fluid, and since I'm more of a rhythm player, I could really dig into it. For some reason, the previous owner put a Superman sticker on the upper bout.Also played an Mexican Tele and one of the Squier Classic Vibe Teles, which was surprisingly hefty but had a really chunky tone. It was better than the Mexican model. I was surprised by how well it played and sounded. Just for sh*ts and giggles, I fooled around on a couple of Breedlove and Alvarez acoustics, but didn't play anything I loved. The wheels are turning... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GtrPlyr Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 I can't possibly recommend the 52 re-issue Tele enough. It quickly became my go to guitar in almost all situations. I play 90% of our live shows with it. I played through a bunch of but the 52 just had that sound you expect from a tele. It stays in tune really well, so comfortable to play, I love that guitar. Seconded. I love my '52 reissue. Plays like a dream, moreso than just about any other guitar I have, and of course the classic tele sound is hard to beat. I love it so much I actually rejigged a solo for a song I'm recording. I originally came up with the solo on a 22 fret guitar, but wanted the tele on the track so I had to play a little section of the solo down an octave, worked like a charm and actually made the solo better in my opinion. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted August 23, 2013 Share Posted August 23, 2013 Man this thread is awesome. Here is my newest baby. Gibson Century of Progress. Remake of the 1935 guitar. It's an Elvis Costello signature guitar, and while I love the man, I wish I didnt have to pay up for the name. Still, it sounds great, red spruce top, maple sides and back, and pearloid fingerboard (!) Anyone ever see or play this guitar? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
choo-choo-charlie Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 Never seen it. Looks cool though! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 That's a really interesting contour for an acoustic. I would guess it has the bright/articulate sound happening more than the rich/thick sound happening, is that right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted August 24, 2013 Share Posted August 24, 2013 That's a really interesting contour for an acoustic. I would guess it has the bright/articulate sound happening more than the rich/thick sound happening, is that right?Spot on. The smaller body means you lose a bit of thickness (i assume that's the reason) but it is sharp as a knife. Really bright and articulate as you say. I love it so far but not sure this is a good guitar to have if you only have one. It's a nice complement to my others. And it's really beautiful. A conversations starter for sure, not that that's what I look for in guitars. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moss Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 Love the look of that guitar, very unique. I always go for the larger bodied Grand auditorium type guitars and I don't know why because I have heard smaller bodied guitars that sound so good. Would love to hear this one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted August 25, 2013 Share Posted August 25, 2013 finished the board. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PopTodd Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 All I have is a TurboRAT. And I love it.Glad to see you incorporate one into your board. So nasty.(Even though I know yours isn't the Turbo, still...) Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted August 26, 2013 Share Posted August 26, 2013 Kick ass board! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
choo-choo-charlie Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Gave this a test drive over my lunch break today. 1946 Harmony H1215 hollowbody. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
PopTodd Posted August 27, 2013 Share Posted August 27, 2013 Very cool.Those old acoustic archtops have such a unique sound. Not great for everything, but when it's right, it's dead-on. Love it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moss Posted August 29, 2013 Share Posted August 29, 2013 finished the board. That is damned impressive. I think I managed to fit about 7 pedals in the same amount of space. I do love my Fulldrive 2. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 ahhh, the prunes and custard. A mandatory pedal for any self-respecting Wilco fan.In all seriousness, I dont know how you'd even get to half of those pedals while playing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moss Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 ahhh, the prunes and custard. A mandatory pedal for any self-respecting Wilco fan.In all seriousness, I dont know how you'd even get to half of those pedals while playing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Ghost of Electricity Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 my new toy came today thanks to the local version of ebay. it's and old electric reed organ. when you turn it on you can hear and feel the electric fan start up. it's not actually the one in the picture but one very similar. the knob on the front which controls the speed of the fan and (to a lesser degree) the volume. man, dos this thing sound good. people don't appreciate old stuff, so it only set me back about 25 dollars. it smells like the guy you don't want to sit next to on the bus, though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 In all seriousness, I dont know how you'd even get to half of those pedals while playing.Board is raised, which certainly helps. Only 2 give any problems stomping on/off--problem meaning I might mess the dials on the pedal below. Will always be a work in progress Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GtrPlyr Posted August 30, 2013 Share Posted August 30, 2013 my new toy came today thanks to the local version of ebay. it's and old electric reed organ. when you turn it on you can hear and feel the electric fan start up. it's not actually the one in the picture but one very similar. the knob on the front which controls the speed of the fan and (to a lesser degree) the volume. man, dos this thing sound good. people don't appreciate old stuff, so it only set me back about 25 dollars. it smells like the guy you don't want to sit next to on the bus, though. organ suitcase.jpg I bought something similar last year at an estate sale for $10. The organs fan has a speed dial that goes from "soft" to "loud." One of the reeds wasn't working on the thing so I had to take it apart, now all is good. I wish I found more cool stuff like that at garage/estate sales. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anthony Posted August 31, 2013 Share Posted August 31, 2013 You guys are not helping my GAS or PAS (pedal acquisition syndrome). The good news: I have no interest in cowboy boots. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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