spongebob Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 "all you critics sit alone...you're no better for what you've known."-n.y.spongebob Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skip Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Love the new material and can't wait until the new record is released. No doubt about it - I'll be one of those fans who buys it on the Tuesday it's released. That all said, I've always wondered how the process works. What comes first - the chord progression (music) or lyrics? After listening to a slew of old Wilco and new Wilco shows over the last few days, I'm convinced we've seen a change in the band. Old Wilco - raw live performances and very polished (perhaps over produced) records. New Wilco - very intricate, more reversed live sound (almost orchestral) with TO BE DETERMINED studio records. I'm trying to get my hands around what others may be getting at here... The question that comes to mind - has the change altered how songs are written and how songs evolve? With the caliber of the current line-up, is the music is coming first, rather than lyrics? Nothing wrong w/ that. Hell, if I had or was in a band that was essentailly an "all star team" of players that could pull off just about anything, I'd probably push the music too. What comes first the chicken or the egg? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tongue-tied Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 The question that comes to mind - has the change altered how songs are written and how songs evolve? yes. this record seems like the most collaborative one yet, reportedly the whole band is coming up with the music and the lyrics are more spontaneous where before they were written, jeff would figure out a song, and wilco would play around with it. What comes first the chicken or the egg? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
candyflosser Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 good grief.... ANYONE CHECKED aHA'S LYRIC WEBSITE? gOSH AND GOLLY.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gobias Industries Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Quit your shouting, man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 With the caliber of the current line-up Flattered as I am that you think so, I'm really not that close to the band. good grief.... ANYONE CHECKED aHA'S LYRIC WEBSITE?gOSH AND GOLLY.... wHAT DOES THAT HAVE TO DO WITH ANYTHING?sWEET SASSY MOLASSEY.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lazy Locomotive Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Sub par or not sub par, I still listen to the new songs more than anything else....basically on constant repeat.But, there in lies the rub of Wilco. I have to say the songs I hate the most in the beginning always end up my favorites down the road. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
random painted highway Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 yes. this record seems like the most collaborative one yet, reportedly the whole band is coming up with the music and the lyrics are more spontaneous where before they were written, jeff would figure out a song, and wilco would play around with it. I think this alone is a sign of hope for a good album. Whether or not one likes the album, something done with full collaboration and equality between all members with a good line of communication will likely produce better results than, say, Tweedy and Bennett fighting about the segway into Heavy Metal Drummer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
intodeep Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I am at work so unfortunately I can Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 After years of hearing on here "where is the new material", now we have some and some people are disappointed. I'm not. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oceanman Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 dun dun chh da dun dun chh da dun dun chh............................ This is the new one their calling Spiders or something! Check it out!!!!!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I was listening to "What Light" last night, and for some odd reason, I was thinking that Bono would cover this song. Then I imagined him singing it, and I got angry. So Jeff, don't let Bono sing "What Light." please. It's too good for that. (no offense, Bono). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oceanman Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I was thinking more along the lines of Neil Diamond. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I was thinking more along the lines of Neil Diamond. Thank you oceanman. I said this when they first started playing this, but didn't get much of a response. I can hardly listen to this song because all I hear is Neil Diamond. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
watch me fall Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 dun dun chh da dun dun chh da dun dun chh............................ This is the new one their calling Spiders or something! Check it out!!!!!!! Are you available for parties? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EL the Famous Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I'm not a superfan or anything, but didn't a lot of tracks from previous albums change lyrically from their live debuts once they were put on wax? Some of the best tunes lyrically on Ghost were amalgamations of different pieces of his poetry. If history repeats itself, what you're listening to now may not be what hits the shelves. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
myboyblue Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 If history repeats itself, what you're listening to now may not be what hits the shelves. THAT'S WHERE YOU ARE WRONG AND IT SUCKS!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I can hardly listen to this song because all I hear is Neil Diamond.Isn't Neil Diamond cool?? Didn't Rick Rubin just work with him?? LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Isn't Neil Diamond cool?? Didn't Rick Rubin just work with him?? LouieB You could say that. I actually like Neil Diamond. I just don't want to hear him when I am listening to Wilco. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 On the boats and on the planesThey're coming to AmericaNever looking back againThey're coming to America Home, don't it seem so far awayOh, we're travelling light todayIn the eye of the stormIn the eye of the storm Home, to a new and a shiny placeMake our bed, and we'll say our graceFreedom's light burning warmFreedom's light burning warm Everywhere around the worldThey're coming to AmericaEvery time that flag's unfurledThey're coming to America Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oceanman Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Thank you oceanman. I said this when they first started playing this, but didn't get much of a response. I can hardly listen to this song because all I hear is Neil Diamond. Are you available for parties?It depends Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oceanman Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 Isn't Neil Diamond cool?? Didn't Rick Rubin just work with him?? LouieBEverytime I hear Dry Your Eyes.............................OMG A weeping little baby. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I paid the iTunes 99 cent for "Holly Holy." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oceanman Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I paid the iTunes 99 cent for "Holly Holy."sell out Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted August 15, 2006 Share Posted August 15, 2006 I'm old. I believe in paying for things. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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