Lost

[augurus]

That's quite the season finale, and more.

 

If that's not Penelope's Boat,...

[nicburto]

Too small a box to be Hurley. Certainly isn't Kate, probably not Sawyer... Locke?

 

For some reason I think it's Ben - probably alluding to the fact that Jack told Ben he was going to kill him

[welch79]

yeah it seemed like a small casket.

 

i'm a fan of the direction taken during this finale.

 

more tomorrow...late...must sleep.

[nicburto]

The more I think about it - knowing what we now know takes some of the fun out of it.

[Sweet Papa Crimbo]

Too small a box to be Hurley. Certainly isn't Kate, probably not Sawyer... Locke?

 

 

I doubt Locke left the island...It was somebody Kate would not have wanted to attend a funeral for. i am guessing maybe Ben.

 

This ties well with Desmond's mega flashback. They weren't meant to leave the island...

 

I was halfway expecting the code to shut down the jammer to be THE numbers.

 

I wonder if the mysterious virus/disease will come into play.

 

And by the way...the spoiler I posted from Lostfan108 was dead on/

[Sweet Papa Crimbo]

That's quite the season finale, and more.

 

If that's not Penelope's Boat,...

 

 

I think Ben may well have been telling the truth all along...The Others are the good guys protecting the island and its secret(s). Must be a hell of a secret...something a lot more than healing powers for cranky old, bald headed collections managers of box companies.

 

However, Jack and Kate were not killed by the others (as Ben predicted/feared); but what of the others?

I wonder if we will have flashbacks from the characters off the island, or flash forwards from the losties as they meet the new 'others'.

 

I think the people on the boat are either Dharma or people wanting to exploit something, or someone on the island. Remember the Lost Experience and the retro virus story?

 

And was that really Walt, or an avatar (like Yemi)? Is it Jacob appearing in the different guises?

 

And who was it waiting for Kate to return? Sawyer...her husband (Mal from Firefly)?

[Sweet Papa Crimbo]

One last thing or two here:

 

 

Why isn't Kate in prison (assuming this is a flash forward)?

 

There's going to be a couple of hours before the new others show up to 'rescue' the losties. Will Locke remove himself from the group (the old others will need a new leader).

 

What will become of Dez?

 

Sawyer has built up a lot of negative karma...shooting Tom was uncalled for, even if he did kidnap Walt.

[nicburto]

Dez was acting weird towards the end of the episode. It seemed like he wasn't telling Charlie the truth - if he really knew how he was killed then wouldn't he have know Patchy would swim out there? He looked genuinely surprised.

[augurus]

One last thing or two here:

Why isn't Kate in prison (assuming this is a flash forward)?

 

There's going to be a couple of hours before the new others show up to 'rescue' the losties. Will Locke remove himself from the group (the old others will need a new leader).

 

What will become of Dez?

 

Sawyer has built up a lot of negative karma...shooting Tom was uncalled for, even if he did kidnap Walt.

We're assuming Kate is smart enough to realize that faking her own death on the island is a good idea. Thus, taking on a different alias upon leaving the island is probably the best way to evade interpol and etc.

[augurus]

Here's the question of the future.

Where's Juliette?

[ction]

Question - So the scenes with Jack were a flash-forward....then what was the deal with him telling the new Chief of Surgery (or whatever he was) to "get my Father down here and see if he's as drunk as I am"? Was he just being sarcastic in referencing his dead father?

 

Disclaimer: I DVR'd this and watched it late last night, so I could be remembering this scene incorrectly.

[ction]

I forgot, there was the prescription written by his father, which I guess could be fake.

 

Also, Locke saying "you're not supposed to do this." He's said that before, or at least "this isn't supposed to happen" or something like that, where he seems genuinely confused and upset by the course of events. I can't remember when and where though, although I think it was in season 2.

 

This was a great ending to season 3, btw.

[Lance]

Also, what's the deal with Mikhail and his indestructability? I also wondered about Jack referencing his father like that if it was indeed a "flash forward."

[hollywood44]

Some observations:

 

1) In the closing scene at the airport, Jack references a "golden pass" that they were given. Presumably a lifetime of free flying from Oceanic. I can't recall the other dialogue exactly, but he seemed to reference not wanting to lie anymore, or something. Perhaps whatever organization is coming to the island in the present time story line gives fake cover stories to explain the survival of those that leave the island, and compels them to maintain confidentiality as to their experiences there. In Kate's case, maybe she's furnished with a new identity?

 

2) No way Desmond could make it all the way to the radio tower by the time the copter shows up. If in fact the copter is en route. I'm of the mind that Desmond, Locke, maybe a few more willingly stay behind.

 

3) The whole Widmore Corporation/Hanso Foundation thread should get some exposure, and I'm guessing that the folks coming from the ship are part of some shadowy "evil" corporation.

 

4) Not really Walt, but a manifestation by the island.

 

5) Somewhere on the interweb there's notions that the past, present, and future are all happening at the same time, and that the island is some sort of weird conduit in the space/time continuum. At some point "future Jack" will get back and make it right.

[Sweet Papa Crimbo]

Some observations:

 

1) In the closing scene at the airport, Jack references a "golden pass" that they were given. Presumably a lifetime of free flying from Oceanic. I can't recall the other dialogue exactly, but he seemed to reference not wanting to lie anymore, or something. Perhaps whatever organization is coming to the island in the present time story line gives fake cover stories to explain the survival of those that leave the island, and compels them to maintain confidentiality as to their experiences there. In Kate's case, maybe she's furnished with a new identity?

 

2) No way Desmond could make it all the way to the radio tower by the time the copter shows up. If in fact the copter is en route. I'm of the mind that Desmond, Locke, maybe a few more willingly stay behind.

 

I'm not sure Desmond stayed voluntarily, but no way Locke would leave. Which may prove problematic as Ben asserts the 'new others' will kill everybody.

 

3) The whole Widmore Corporation/Hanso Foundation thread should get some exposure, and I'm guessing that the folks coming from the ship are part of some shadowy "evil" corporation.

 

Heavily alluded to in The LOST EXPERIENCE.

 

4) Not really Walt, but a manifestation by the island.

 

a la Yemi...are these manifestations related to Jacob

 

5) Somewhere on the interweb there's notions that the past, present, and future are all happening at the same time, and that the island is some sort of weird conduit in the space/time continuum. At some point "future Jack" will get back and make it right.

 

bound to be something along those lines...by the way, where are the real Walt and Michael

[SarahC]

Holy crap!

That's all I can say right now.

When Hurley ran that dude over with the bus I was like "Alright!!" and I woke my dog up...

[Analogman]

this week's screencaps

[redpillbox]

For those disappointed with the "Future" reveal...I'm thinking that that future isn't an inevitable outcome...much like Desmond can manipulate the future, I think that that is only one possible outcome...that it isn't inevitable. I also noticed the part about Jack's dad still being alive, which leads me to believe that maybe we are seeing some sort of alternate time-line or "space time continuum schism" where the series of events happened in a slightly different way....that it may not be the future that connects with the storyline we've seen up to this point, if that makes sense. That would explain why Jack's dad was still alive?

[Sweet Papa Crimbo]

For those disappointed with the "Future" reveal...I'm thinking that that future isn't an inevitable outcome...much like Desmond can manipulate the future, I think that that is only one possible outcome...that it isn't inevitable. I also noticed the part about Jack's dad still being alive, which leads me to believe that maybe we are seeing some sort of alternate time-line or "space time continuum schism" where the series of events happened in a slightly different way....that it may not be the future that connects with the storyline we've seen up to this point, if that makes sense. That would explain why Jack's dad was still alive?

 

A really nasty bit by the writers. We can either infer that Jack was so fucked up he didn't remember his dad was dead, or Jack's leaving the island caused all kinds of ripples in time.

 

Rattlesnake in the mailbox it was. But I wonder if we are going to have the time period between the call and the arrival first up next year, or is the action going to revolve around the possible now.

 

It's all on Jack, whatever occurs. Locke and Ben tried to warn him that what he thought he wanted (re: leaving the island) was a bad thing. Ben says everybody will be killed. Locke showed an extraordinary level of weakness. If he didn't want to shoot Jack, he should have shot the radio.

[jdmel]

this is sad... i saw jack using a razr at the funeral scene early in the show and said they didnt have those when they were home (as theyre on the island in 2004), so its the future... (as a joke)... i also jokingly said lockes dad would be the real sawyer... so basically come up with the most ridiculous storyline joke u can and it will come true..

[EL the Famous]

wasn't a RAZR, but a KRZR...which just came out in late '06.

[welch79]

kate not in prison in el futuro? exonerated.

 

jack's dad alive? nah. he's blitzed on oxycodone.

 

mikhail indestructible? probably a lot like locke.

 

walt? nah. like kate's horse and jack's dad.

 

desmond was acting weird in the hatch. you all notice that jack's ex looked preggers? don't know if this is impt., however, the actress herself may just be. i was wondering myself to whom kate was referring at the runway.

 

great season ender. now don't we have to wait until like feb '08???

[jimtweedy1977]

For those disappointed with the "Future" reveal...I'm thinking that that future isn't an inevitable outcome...much like Desmond can manipulate the future, I think that that is only one possible outcome...that it isn't inevitable. I also noticed the part about Jack's dad still being alive, which leads me to believe that maybe we are seeing some sort of alternate time-line or "space time continuum schism" where the series of events happened in a slightly different way....that it may not be the future that connects with the storyline we've seen up to this point, if that makes sense. That would explain why Jack's dad was still alive?

Was it specifically mentioned that his father was alive? I know the pharmacist mentioned that his father had approval to write prescriptions. But what if no one knew that his father had died previously? I assumed that's why Jack told the pharmacist not to bother calling his father.

[caliber66]

2) No way Desmond could make it all the way to the radio tower by the time the copter shows up. If in fact the copter is en route. I'm of the mind that Desmond, Locke, maybe a few more willingly stay behind.

IIRC, the chicks in the Looking Glass had a walkie, as does Jack. Consequently, Desmond shouldn't have to go anywhere to warn the rest of the group...

 

Was it specifically mentioned that his father was alive? I know the pharmacist mentioned that his father had approval to write prescriptions. But what if no one knew that his father had died previously? I assumed that's why Jack told the pharmacist not to bother calling his father.

Jack told the new head of surgery to call his father and to send him (Jack) home "if I am drunker than he is" or something to that effect...

 

Again, IIRC.

[TCP]

Correct me if I'm wrong but in one of the early episodes Jack went looking for his fathers casket but when he found it there was no body in it... correct? Maybe the island made his father alive?

Is Charlie really dead? I hope not!

Notice how Walt, who should have been 10 looked strangely... 13!!

How bout Danielle and her daughter being reunited?

Maybe it was Juliet who died? That's why Kate didn't want to go, and why Jack was bummed out?

According to Analogue Man's handy screen shot site, you can tell that the article says "Man found .... ____antham of New York"