Edie Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 and, don't take offense, but do you really think it's ok to sing at a concert? i'm sure YOU had fun singing, hell yeah, i'd love to sing at a concert, just as i sing along in the car and at home, but NOT around people that paid good money to hear someone else sing. Mr. Tweedy often encourages the crowd to sing a long, so I always do. I think once he likened it to a narcissistic campfire where only his songs get sung or something like that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jared Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 he does indeed like singalongs. not every song tho. isn't 36 young'ish? i sure hope so. i get carded for copenhagen all the time. most ppl think i'm about 25 or so. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fatheadfred Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Oh, yeah, I funkin scream my head off at times...like when the music is so loud I can't even hear cuz I know I sound like shit. When they are going slow and peaceful I shut my piehole. Parkville has a good brew pub. I live in Warrensburg and am married w/ child so I don't hang out in KC too much. If you don't red the Pitch pick it up or view online. They do a pretty good job of going's on in the area. We had some drinks north of the Spring at a dive called the Zoo. Way old timer though. My sis lives up there in Waldo (south Kc) and it seems to be pretty cool. I am kind of staying away from Wport (although Blayney's isn't too bad). Plaza is ok every once in awhile (Odowds). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Edie Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 he does indeed like singalongs. not every song tho. Sadly you are mistaken. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jared Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 sorry, i meant it to read that i, not him, don't think ppl should sing along to every song. i wrote that poorly. like i said b4, there are some times that i think it's OK, few and far between albeit, but sometimes it's OK with me. certain songs, certain lyrics. for example: if the crowd sings along to 'box full of letters' for the 'the way i want it to read' part, that is OK with me. how about this? would it be OK if the entire band sang along to every lyric with tweedy? i've always been really sensitive to people singing at concerts. it just doesn't make sense to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sullivand Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 You think it'll show up on betree.org?Yep: http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=510246 enjoy! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fatheadfred Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Yep: http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=510246 enjoy! Heck yeah, thanks taper dudes. I'll grab it tomorrow at work. woohoo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
H to the ickle Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 wow piss off. I did, I was out of that God-forsaken city 15 minutes after Spiders was done. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fatheadfred Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 I did, I was out of that God-forsaken city 15 minutes after Spiders was done. Was this your first visit to KC? What was so bad? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jakobnicholas Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Some very strange posts about this show and the city. Kansas City may not be paradise, but I'd like to know what cities all these KC bashers come from. I'm sure their cities are WAY, WAY cooler. My take: I showed up early enough to get about 5 feet from the VIP fence. Everyone around seemed to be having a blast. Some were singing along, which I thought was great. Andrew Bird is very talented, but I was seriously done with him after 4 songs. Every song sounded the same....he'd play his violin, record a loop or two, play a ragged electric guitar, whistle like a Clnt Eastwood western, and sing forced lyrics in various pitches. I like his voice, but his music, to me, all ran together. A for creativity. C- for listenability. Wilco seemed in fine spirits to me. They were loose and having fun. Nels was having a good time with Mikael and Glenn. And Tweedy and Pat played face to face and were goofing with each other. Tweedy seemed to be having more fun than any other show I've seen him play. They looked to be having a genuinely good time. Horrors of all of horrors that Pat was caught looking angry before the show!!!! I will never think of him in a good way again....ha. The Elton John references were funny. Tweedy could see the Sprint Center spotlights from the stage, as John was playing just 5 blocks away. When the crowd booed at the mention of Elton, Tweedy sarcastically said, "Yeah...we hate Elton John. He sucks!". The venue was fine, to me. Yeah, we stood on wood chips. Big deal. It actually was much better than standing on concrete in an indoor venue. It was an intimate venue and sounded really good where I was. I can't speak to the food service. I was there to watch great music, not eat. The weather was absolutely perfect....just a great night to be outside. The setlist was great. Good mixture of old and new tunes. I really was hoping for an Elton cover, but figured it was a long shot. She's a Jar sounded great. The 2nd encore was smokin'. All 4 tunes off Sky Blue Sky really sounded wonderful. I think too much is being made of the MC guy. His name is Stretch and he sculpted the metal structures around the venue. He's a KC artist and part owner of Crossroads who happens to have a loud, sort of obnoxious sounding voice. I think he's a huge reason Wilco decided to play Crossroads. The dude was pumped up and excited to have Wilco play his last show of the year.......OH MY!....I think he should be locked up in prison. How dare he. The comment he said was "F**k Elton John".....joking that the fans didn't need to be at the Sprint Center to have a wonderful music night. He clearly was not serious. The only thing that ticked me off is the MC guy slightly suggested Wilco may come back (for a 3rd encore). Then a stagehand working on the drums urged the crowd to clap by raising his hands a few times. I really thought for a few seconds that Wilco was coming back on. So did most of the crowd. I've seen Wilco at least 10 times, and this show was at least top 3. Musically, it may have been my favorite. Wilco, thanks for stooping so low to come to my hometown, Kansas City, to entertain all us un-cool folks. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mgsooner Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 I have always liked K.C. I've been to a couple of shows there and had a good time both times. I've also been up for some football games and had a good time then as well. It's a nice enough place. I'll go back. I'm holding out for a MM Jacket show at Crossroads. Despite the shortcomings of the venue, an outdoor place like that would be perfect for MMJ. I will say I won't ever be dining at Grinder's. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jared Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 I still would like to what DBT is. I'm needy. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elixir Sue Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Drive-By Truckers. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jared Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Ahhhh. I see. Thanks. Ya know, I've never heard them, but for some strange reason there's a DBT cd in my truck. I don't get it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mgsooner Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Oh, yeah, Drive-by Truckers. Sorry man. DBT is amazing live. I have quite the obsession with them. It really annoys some of my friends. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dr. Steve Brule Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 just a brief post after the iowa show. Wow!! Really, what is with he negativity? KC is a really awesome city, I had agreat time surrounded by vcers (FINALLY met oceanman!!) and despite the shady entry system and the VIP pit it was a super fantastic show. I would not hesitate to go back! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poppydawn Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 I looked for you. Where were you standing? Especially since Columbia was the last show I saw. A similair type venue, but seems much better managed. I was directly behind the VIP section, in front of John and Pat. I was at the entrance fence during Andrew Bird's sound check and saw three gals in Wellies. I thought about making an ass of myself and seeing if it was you and your gang, but decided to be shy and demure, for once in my life. Sorry, don't agree. Great fucking show. Casino Queen made me jump out of my shoes. The band seemed to be enjoying themselves during the show, and so was I. That's really all I care about. Did you happen to have lunch at Po's on 39th? There was a couple at the table next to us, and I overheard them talking about being in town from Tulsa. How 'bout the screamin chick? (my wife) She really needs to get into filming horror movies. I thought Tweedy was truly shaking, then came to his wit and conceded then told her to zip it. We had a good time SINGING and DANCING. This is rock n' roll, not church. The scream cracked me up! I was recently clocked at 109 dB; I was willing to challenge her to a scream-off. Hooray for people being willing to express their joy at a show! Granted, there's a time and place for everything, but I'd much rather be at a show where people are so into the music that they're singing, dancing, and having a good time. That's a part of what creates the awesome energy and connection that can exist between an artist and an audience. If I didn't want that, I'd stay home and listen to my CDs. Yeah, I've experienced my share of shitty audiences, but I honestly can't complain about last night's show. A few people crowded me and butted in front of me. Such is life in GA. The guy next to me was throwing a hissy fit because his wife/girlfriend was only 5" tall and couldn't see. Sucks. I'm 5'3", and I know it sucks. But it comes with the territory. I thought I noticed some terseness from the band early on, and it was great to see them come out of it. They definitely seemed to feed off the audience's energy, which created such a great build-up through the show. I grew up a little over an hour away from Kansas City, and I make it back every few years. Last time was in August, '05 for a Ben Folds/Rufus Wainwright show at City Market. That venue makes Crossroads feel like Radio City Music Hall. My only complaint about the venue was the VIP area. As far as KC is concerned, the recent growth is amazing. It was great to see downtown beginning to thrive, and to see money being invested in the arts and revitalizing the great old buildings. I hope they continue on this path. We spent a chunk of the day on 39th Street. A childhood friend of mine is married to one of the owners at Prospero's Bookstore. We paid them a visit - awesome bookstore. I also found a yarn shop owned by a former IT geek. Fascinating, fun woman with a wonderful shop. It's been a few years since I've been in that part of town. I always liked that area, and I was thrilled to see it thriving. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M. (hristine Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 I was directly behind the VIP section, in front of John and Pat. I was at the entrance fence during Andrew Bird's sound check and saw three gals in Wellies. I thought about making an ass of myself and seeing if it was you and your gang, but decided to be shy and demure, for once in my life.That's where my daughter and I were standing, at the rail. Huh. Well don't be shy and demure the next time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fatheadfred Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 We're kind of a sullen group, Ed. Why do we expect artists to be 100% happy? And especially a group like Wilco that has some sadness in there material. I made the comment to me posse during the rainy drive to the show that it would be cool if they played all depressing material. Sadness is a strong feeling. Go ahead, be sad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M. (hristine Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 I hate to blow sunshine up everyone's asses, but my daughter and I saw Jeff before the show and he was smiling radiantly. Virtually bursting with health and good cheer. Shocking, I know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
KansasAl Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Did anyone else just want to hit the "MC" in the eye with a cinder block?Yes. My first show. Why did it take me 37 years to see this band? God I'm a dolt. Fantastic experience. Simply rocked my face off! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
poppydawn Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 That's where my daughter and I were standing, at the rail. Huh. Well don't be shy and demure the next time. She was in a white t-shirt with a few buttons, wasn't she? Okay, no more uncharacteristic politeness from me ever again. It's not worth it. Next time I'll follow my instincts and yell, "Via Chicago!", then accost whoever looks. I'll make it up to you; come see the band next time they're in St. Louis, and I'll give you my patented UT/Wilco tour. Cicero's (which isn't there anymore), Mississippi Nights (which isn't there anymore), The Landing, Casino Queen, Jeff's dad's house ... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yermom Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 I hate to blow sunshine up everyone's asses, but my daughter and I saw Jeff before the show and he was smiling radiantly. Virtually bursting with health and good cheer. Shocking, I know.Hooray! Now that's the kind of stuff I like to read about! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
M. (hristine Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Hooray! Now that's the kind of stuff I like to read about! See, now I blew sunshine up your ass, and I really didn't want to have to do that. She was in a white t-shirt with a few buttons, wasn't she?Yep. She's my little rock and roll.(Sherriff Glenny tshirt, made by Tweedy's Gurl, signed 2 years ago by the whole band.) Okay, no more uncharacteristic politeness from me ever again. It's not worth it. Next time I'll follow my instincts and yell, "Via Chicago!", then accost whoever looks. OK. I'm really a bit of all right. I'll make it up to you; come see the band next time they're in St. Louis, and I'll give you my patented UT/Wilco tour. Cicero's (which isn't there anymore), Mississippi Nights (which isn't there anymore), The Landing, Casino Queen, Jeff's dad's house ...I'd rather head down to Festus and Kimswick to see dinosaur bones or do some fishing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
oceanman Posted October 15, 2007 Share Posted October 15, 2007 Highlights..........Pulled Pork M Chris Fam(including Liz) Clouds of Fluff Samoramadingdong Yvon making sure I didn't drop kick that bastard behind me Andrew making cry during Master fade. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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