jenbobblehead Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 http://kissmesuzy.blogspot.com/2007/10/ksk...ble-hole-s.htmlmine was funnier. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 MrRain's was much funnier. Sorry Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 I don't like his usage of Papelbon. A converted starter is going to be able to go more than 58 innings in a season. I don't remember him having too many injury issues this year, though it's possible. I'd like to see Papelbon throwing closer to 100 innings in a season.One of the things with this is that Papelbon emphatically stated he wanted to close. That he was "born to close." His shoulder was totally re-habbed/re-built/whatever in the off season and he was headed to be a starter (he's both started and closed in the minors and college). Epstein and Francona tried to sway him but ultimately Papelbon won out. The Sox also needed a closer by this point (end of Spring training). I understand what you're saying, though, in terms of him potentially yielding better results for the team as a starter. On the other hand, I think he fits perfectly in the role he's in. I know you feel the closer spot is overrated, and who's to say how well he'd fair as a starter (certainly less stress on the arm), but he's more comfortable in the role as closer and I think the brass that runs the team did not want to force the switch. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jenbobblehead Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 MrRain's was much funnier. Sorry wrong, infinity times. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted October 27, 2007 Author Share Posted October 27, 2007 I don't like his usage of Papelbon. A converted starter is going to be able to go more than 58 innings in a season. I don't remember him having too many injury issues this year, though it's possible. I'd like to see Papelbon throwing closer to 100 innings in a season.Francona's usage of Papelbon (at least wrt number of innings & how frequently he's used) is dictated by the team doctors, not by Francona. They chart his physical comfort level on a daily basis, and use that data to determine whether he's available to pitch, and for how long. It was only late this season that he was cleared to pitch more than two consecutive games, or to pitch the day after pitching more than one inning. Now that his shoulder is in better shape, he's likely to see more innings as the closer. Francona will have more leeway to use him more creatively as time goes on... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 My problem with most managers is they emphasize "speed" and "grit" over on base skills in the leadoff spot.I'm with you on almost everything you said, but I have to take issue with you putting speed in scare quotes. When managers emphasize speed in the leadoff position--they are doing just that. No need to put quotes around it. They're using speedy players. Grit is a vague term and thus merits the scare quotes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted October 27, 2007 Share Posted October 27, 2007 One of the things with this is that Papelbon emphatically stated he wanted to close. That he was "born to close." His shoulder was totally re-habbed/re-built/whatever in the off season and he was headed to be a starter (he's both started and closed in the minors and college). Epstein and Francona tried to sway him but ultimately Papelbon won out. The Sox also needed a closer by this point (end of Spring training). I understand what you're saying, though, in terms of him potentially yielding better results for the team as a starter. On the other hand, I think he fits perfectly in the role he's in. I know you feel the closer spot is overrated, and who's to say how well he'd fair as a starter (certainly less stress on the arm), but he's more comfortable in the role as closer and I think the brass that runs the team did not want to force the switch. I meant using him specifically in "save situations". He's underused if they use him in only such situations. I'm with you on almost everything you said, but I have to take issue with you putting speed in scare quotes. When managers emphasize speed in the leadoff position--they are doing just that. No need to put quotes around it. They're using speedy players. Grit is a vague term and thus merits the scare quotes. But speed isn't a good skill to have in the leadoff spot if it's by itself, which is why I put speed in quotes. I meant the idea of speed, as in a Juan Pierre type. "Wreaking havok" and all that stuff that doesn't really have any positive impact on a game. Speed + OBP is good. "Being a nuisance" is what most managers mean when they put a guy with speed in the leadoff spot. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tongue-tied lightning Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 i'm so glad the dude sitting behind home plate stopped waving his sign, so he could eat hiis dog. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Is that mass of flesh indeed a dude? I can't tell."Big Papi Eats Big Boogers" may be the best sign I've ever seen at a game. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tongue-tied lightning Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Ha, missed that onerout is on Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Edie Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 By whom? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Thank god that inning is over Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 By whom? The Red Sox. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Edie Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 The Red Sox. That was close there for a full half inning. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Tessie is the Royal Rooters rally cryTessie is the tune they always sungTessie echoed April through October nightsAfter serenading Stahl, Dinneen and YoungTessie is a maiden with a sparkling eyeTessie is a maiden with a loveShe doesn't know the meaning of her sightShe's got a comment full of loveAnd sometimes when the game is on the lineTessie always carried them awayUp the road from "Third Base" to HuntingtonThe boys will always sing and sway Two! Three! Four! Tessie, "Nuf Ced" McGreevey shoutedWe're not here to mess aroundBoston, you know we love you madlyHear the crowd roar to your soundDon't blame us if we ever doubt youYou know we couldn't live without youTessie, you are the only only only The Rooters showed up at the grounds one dayThey found their seats had all been soldMcGreevey led the charge into the parkStormed the gates and put the game on holdThe Rooters gave the other team a dreadful frightBoston's tenth man could not be wrongUp from "Third Base" to HuntingtonThey'd sing another victory song Two! Three! Four! Tessie, "Nuf Ced" McGreevey shoutedWe're not here to mess aroundBoston, you know we love you madlyHear the crowd roar to your soundDon't blame us if we ever doubt youYou know we couldn't live without youTessie, you are the only only only The Rooters gave the other team a dreadful frightBoston's tenth man could not be wrongUp from "Third Base" to HuntingtonThey'd sing another victory song Two! Three! Four! Tessie, "Nuf Ced" McGreevey shoutedWe're not here to mess aroundBoston, you know we love you madlyHear the crowd roar to your soundDon't blame us if we ever doubt youYou know we couldn't live without youTessie, you are the only only onlyDon't blame us if we ever doubt youYou know we couldn't live without youBoston, you are the only only onlyDon't blame us if we ever doubt youYou know we couldn't live without youRed Sox, you are the only only only Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted October 28, 2007 Share Posted October 28, 2007 Pretty funny:http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6X7Zi_p-5ww Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Here we go. Is Ellsbury really a rookie? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Is Ellsbury really a rookie?Yeah, he was first called up in July to fill in for an injured Crisp. I think he only played a handful of games (5 or so) before being sent back to the Paw Sox. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 mine was funnier. You're awfully bitter for someone who's team is about to win their second WS in 4 years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 You're awfully bitter for someone who's team is about to win their second WS in 4 years.This one's for all the 3 year-olds out there who've been deprived of witnessing the team win a WS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jenbobblehead Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 You're awfully bitter for someone who's team is about to win their second WS in 4 years.why do you say bitter? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Yeah, he was first called up in July to fill in for an injured Crisp. I think he only played a handful of games (5 or so) before being sent back to the Paw Sox.Oh, I was being sarcastic or something like that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 Oh, I was being sarcastic or something like that.After I had already posted that I thought to myself "waaaaait a minute here...." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wilcology Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 I can't remember the last time I was excited by the World Series. It really hasn't been good since 03. Even if you like the Red or White Sox or the Cards, there is no denying how much of a snooze fest the last three World Series have been. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jenbobblehead Posted October 29, 2007 Share Posted October 29, 2007 this game is got game written all over it, but frankly the first three games were snoozefests. I liked the indians series. that was exciting!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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