FourStrongWinds Posted November 22, 2007 Share Posted November 22, 2007 I had never heard this before and i dont know what to say, my mind is blown i would like to thank Porkchop for starting the thread about AM, Analogman for drawing attention to Owls thread, and most importantly Owl for uploading them in the first place gee that version of Ashes of American Flags is so heartbreaking, now i remember why i listen to wilco btw, whats the difference between the engineer demos and the regular YHF demos Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Monte Davis Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Different mixes on some tracks, different takes all around on others. The instrumental songs on the regular demos became Cars Can't Escape and another song on the Engineer demos (and that became Radio Cure). I like the Engineer ones myself more so then the regular demos, and almost as much as I like the version we have all come to love. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FourStrongWinds Posted November 23, 2007 Author Share Posted November 23, 2007 so if i download the regular demos is it worth getting the ones that are also on the engineer demos?? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
skyflynn Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 It's just my opinion but yeah, absolutely. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stickman Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 I agree. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wendy Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 Corduroy Cutoff Girl !!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FourStrongWinds Posted November 23, 2007 Author Share Posted November 23, 2007 i cant download the original demos cos i dont know how to convert SHN, im still digging the engineers thoughdoes everyones Venus Stop the Train stop early? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aricandover Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 i cant download the original demos cos i dont know how to convert SHN, im still digging the engineers thoughdoes everyones Venus Stop the Train stop early? http://www.etree.org/mkw.html The mkw Audio Compression Tool (mkwACT) is a free Windows Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FourStrongWinds Posted November 23, 2007 Author Share Posted November 23, 2007 thanks man, ill have a look over it Quote Link to post Share on other sites
HighFives Posted November 23, 2007 Share Posted November 23, 2007 yeah venus stops early on those ones, the full version is on the regular demos. It seems to be the exact same version just the engineer one ends too soon. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rwrkb Posted November 24, 2007 Share Posted November 24, 2007 i just realized i don't have the regular demos... i must correct this oversight Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 I had never heard this before and i dont know what to say, my mind is blown i would like to thank Porkchop for starting the thread about AM, Analogman for drawing attention to Owls thread, and most importantly Owl for uploading them in the first place gee that version of Ashes of American Flags is so heartbreaking, now i remember why i listen to wilco btw, whats the difference between the engineer demos and the regular YHF demos Call me Crow...I'll be cornbread Crow in a couple of weeks Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted November 25, 2007 Share Posted November 25, 2007 The engineer demos are so much better. Worth it for "Let Me Come Home". Heartbreaking. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
giraffo Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 what I notice is that these all seem similiar, if not the same versions of the versions "played" in IATtBYH... a guitarless Poor Places, an Ashes that starts with the drone. "The Good Part" is probably the weirdest Wilco song I've heard though. I also notice the songs polarize more...It seems like there was two potential sides of YHF: a weird, noise infected version and an acousticy rock-y version that has a more collaged approach...like Magizine or The Good Part or Corduoroy... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAngerer09 Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 Cars Can't Escape from the engineer demos is terrific. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
you ever seen a ghost? Posted November 26, 2007 Share Posted November 26, 2007 "Let Me Come Home" actually has an official release. Amos House Collection, Volume 3 or some such thing. -justin Quote Link to post Share on other sites
FourStrongWinds Posted November 26, 2007 Author Share Posted November 26, 2007 for me the engineer demos sound like a more extreme version of YHFs concept. the finished product is a more subtle and thats a good thing in my books though i think if you're already a fan of the record and want more the demos are a real treat. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DAngerer09 Posted November 27, 2007 Share Posted November 27, 2007 the demos are just that.....demos. All of the noise and effects are really raw and unpolished. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radiokills Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 i was pretty unimpressed when i first heard them, minus a few songs. but after all, they're just demos. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Elixir Sue Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 The engineer demos are so much better. Worth it for "Let Me Come Home". Heartbreaking.Also, that version of "Poor Places" = Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radiokills Posted November 28, 2007 Share Posted November 28, 2007 venus stop the train is pretty awesome, as well as not for the season. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
yankhotelfox Posted November 29, 2007 Share Posted November 29, 2007 Corduroy Cutoff Girl !!! She tasted like Mountain Dew. Plus, Cars Can't Escape is one of my top 3 Wilco tunes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
m_to_the_c Posted December 4, 2007 Share Posted December 4, 2007 It's worth noting that in the demos overall, Ken Coomer plays on a few songs, not only Jay Bennett asserting his vision, and getting reigned in. The album was recorded, and then basically transformed. Big ups for leaking the studio process. Someday I hope there is a multi-faceted version complete with studio banter a la the Pet Sounds Boxset. Very glad Wilco do not have a Murry Wilson hanging over them! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oil Can Boyd Posted December 13, 2007 Share Posted December 13, 2007 Corduroy Cutoff Girl !!! Came up on shuffle this morning."I am an American Aquarium Peeping Tom ..." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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