watch me fall Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 What does alternative sound like, exactly? Like your sig. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ction Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Like your sig. Definitely not mainstream then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
watch me fall Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Definitely not mainstream then. Oh absolutely not. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
phish907 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 I still put Jay's voice above just about anyone else in the genre. And, Trace still gets more play, experiences more rotations than just about any other disk in my No Depression catalog. If there is anything negative to be said about Jay and/or Son Volt, it is that he/they never quite lived up to the potential hinted at on the instant classic that is Trace Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 I so agree with the above statement, and for the matter who actually said Farrar wasn't a part of the "elite" team. If you ask me with all due respect to Jeff Tweedy and a few others, Farrar created the team. Yeah, if Uncle Tupelo is to be credited with putting alt-country on the map (rightly or wrongly), Jay would definitely be the capital, its center. As much as I love Jeff now, I must admit to habitually skipping a few of the UT tracks that featured his vocals Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 Like your sig. The Pixies? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
watch me fall Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 [quote name='JUDE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 What does alternative sound like, exactly? It Quote Link to post Share on other sites
scribex6 Posted February 20, 2008 Share Posted February 20, 2008 A pointless article. Seems like the writer is trying to make a case for a debate that no one is advancing. I'd agree that on the basis of Uncle Tupelo and Son Volt's Trace he's considered one of the elites of alt-country even if nothing he's done since Trace has matched its brilliance. Still, this is kind of silly. Who decides the elite and why does it really matter? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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junkiesmile Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 What about Terroir Blues? I thought That album was great. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Those are what you call "people who like different music than I do".Yep. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 The Byrds were mainstream fluff and the Burrito Brothers were boring. There's nothing alternative about either act.Incorrect on both counts. You've apparently never heard Sweetheart of the Rodeo. You can't tell me that's "mainstream fluff." A pointless article. Seems like the writer is trying to make a case for a debate that no one is advancing. I'd agree that on the basis of Uncle Tupelo and Son Volt's Trace he's considered one of the elites of alt-country even if nothing he's done since Trace has matched its brilliance. Still, this is kind of silly. Who decides the elite and why does it really matter?And for that matter, what is "alt-country" anyway? Does anyone even use that term with a straight face anymore? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ction Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 The new term is country and mid-western. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
CortezTheKiller Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Incorrect on both counts. You've apparently never heard Sweetheart of the Rodeo. You can't tell me that's "mainstream fluff." Which version of The Byrds? They certainly weren't mainstream fluff with Parsons on board. You need to check out Sweetheart of the Rodeo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Very mainstream. I'd give more credit to Townes Van Zandt on stuff like "Our Mother the Mountain" and "The Late Great Townes Van Zandt". There was nothing alternative sounding about the vocals or instrumentation of the Byrds. It had a very poppy west coast sound that fit right in on standard pop stations.Standard pop stations?!!? You do realize that album barely sold any copies, right? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Was his place in that "elite" in doubt? His Uncle Tupelo output alone put him there ... and his Son Volt and solo careers have kept him there, albeit with somewhat less fanfare than Mssrs. Tweedy or Adams.Really...actually this is kind of dumb article.. I didn't know there was even a debate.Yea, me either... No love for the NRPS? SF hippies doin straight-up truck drivin' country - I think that's pretty alt, man. I do..... The Byrds were mainstream fluff and the Burrito Brothers were boring. There's nothing alternative about either act.Let's assume this is a joke and move on...... LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dannygutters Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 We all know bob dylan invented alt-country in a basement in 1967. Duh! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
El Picador Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 What an idiotic article. Agreed Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hype Repellent Posted February 21, 2008 Share Posted February 21, 2008 Yep. Liking nu-country automatically qualifies one as hearing impaired. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
hardwood floor Posted February 22, 2008 Share Posted February 22, 2008 it's funny -- jay gets so little press that an awful story with no insight or charm gets 50 responses. speaking of jay farrar ... i'm about to see him in two hours and i'm awfully happy about that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Calexico Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 Mike Nesmith's First National Band stuff should also get a shout out here as should The Fantastic Expedition Of Dillard and Clark. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
pfcidb Posted February 23, 2008 Share Posted February 23, 2008 i'm surprised this was ever in question Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 None of this stuff was called alt.country until the 90s. Up until that time it was just good old country rock.... LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
socbret Posted February 24, 2008 Share Posted February 24, 2008 Weird article, but nice to see a Limbeck mention. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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