solace Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 w/ 100% reporting in both states, Obama won by just over 15% in North Carolina: Barack Obama 890,695 57.52% 61Hillary Clinton 657,920 42.48% 38 And lost by 1.78% in Indiana: Hillary Clinton 638,274 50.89% 37Barack Obama 615,862 49.11% 33 he had a net gain of 19 delegates and 210,363 popular votes pretty fantastic night for him Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Is it just me, or is there something inherently wrong with this sort of thing? Is the prick running for World's Biggest Asshole or something or other? Schneider: Did 'Operation Chaos' succeed in Indiana?Posted: 05:38 AM ET Limbaugh Link to post Share on other sites
dannygutters Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Is it just me, or is there something inherently wrong with this sort of thing? Is the prick running for World's Biggest Asshole or something or other? Schneider: Did 'Operation Chaos' succeed in Indiana?Posted: 05:38 AM ET I dunno, it could probably be said that a corellation exists that democrats and people voting as democrats who listen to rush (I'm taking an assumption here that these people exist) tend to skew towards hillary but I'd hope not a causality. In the same way we can hem and haw about how the race of voters versus their choice is affected by racisim but there's no solid causality to be found. in summary, I hope for humanitys sake that at the end of the day people don't do what an asshole on the raido says. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 prove me wrong and a loud black voice dosent qualify hes a preacher what do you espect, duh. Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Unfortunately, I think Rush Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Hey THDW, have you read "The Assault On Reason"? I thought it was pretty spot-on, although it sometimes reads like a college thesis (wtf, most of Gore's stuff does). I'm guessing you'd like it. Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Hey THDW, have you read "The Assault On Reason"? I thought it was pretty spot-on, although it sometimes reads like a college thesis (wtf, most of Gore's stuff does). I'm guessing you'd like it. I haven Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 No problem. Manufacturing Consent is a really good one - I'll have to check the others out. Thanks for the link. Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Apparently Hillary's tie-breaker comment was a reference to something Obama said: BARACK OBAMA once said that of the three contests in Pennsylvania, North Carolina and Indiana, the last would be the Link to post Share on other sites
EL the Famous Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 This sort of meddling has a certain voter tampering feel to it. As crappy of a stunt (IMO based more in publicity than actual political motivation) as I find it, it's not really tampering. The state allows Republicans to vote in a Democratic primary...while Jabba may have some influence, it is still ultimately each of those voters right to cast their vote for whatever reason they want. I n the grander scale, i'm thinking it didn't have as much bearing as i'm sure he'll make it out to have had. 'Operation Chaos'?! Whatever, Goldfinger. Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 As crappy of a stunt (IMO based more in publicity than actual political motivation) as I find it, it's not really tampering. The state allows Republicans to vote in a Democratic primary...while Jabba may have some influence, it is still ultimately each of those voters right to cast their vote for whatever reason they want. I n the grander scale, i'm thinking it didn't have as much bearing as i'm sure he'll make it out to have had. 'Operation Chaos'?! Whatever, Goldfinger. i doubt it either, the Obama camp was claiming up to 7% according to exit polls, which is prolly way too high of an estimate. but she only won by 20k votes... i could easily see there being that many i'd say even worse is his talk of how his dream scenario is rioting in Denver at the DNC that rival Chicago '68 Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 Once poli sci prof I had once called voter raiding (crossover voters attempting to sabotage the other party's nomination process) the worst thing that's never happened (or never been proven, at least). Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 i'd say even worse is his talk of how his dream scenario is rioting in Denver at the DNC that rival Chicago '68 1. Rush is an f***ing idiot whose admirers always say they think for themselves, so if they followed his guidance, then they are in denial about thinking for themselves. 2. There is no way the DNC will be similar to chicago in any way shape or form. the only similarities are an extremely unpopular war and president. There is no draft, hennce no strong student/young people opposition to the war. Denver does nto have a mayor like Daily either. Daily was the US equivalent of a banana republic dictator who was nto going to have any unrest in his ciity so he quelled the unrest by uinleashing a riot. The only way there will be anything closely resemeling Chicago in Denver will be if the indepedent thinking dittoheads take it upon themselvees to go and start the riot. For Rush to even talk about this being his dream is sickening yet his independent thinking followers eat it up. Link to post Share on other sites
Edie Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 I am so relieved. Thank you voters of NC and IN for coming to your senses. Link to post Share on other sites
Panther Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 A lot of the stuff he has said has some merit, but AIDs being created by the government is ridiculous. its totaly understandble that many people would think thats ridiculous but it dosent make him a hate speaker, in the recent press confrences when this question came up he offered the title of a book to the reporter so yes there are people who seriosuly belive this is true and they beilve their evidence matches up I am not knowledglbe on this subject but I do know their is credible information out their on this subject. A few pages back I stated that I dont no if its true but its not that far fetchec considering what lengths goverments around the world have gone to opress poor people and keep them poor and yes thatt includes U.S.A. look up BLACK WALL STREET its totaly ridiculous but totaly true, its funny how things can be both. Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 There are also plenty of people who believe in big foot and the Roswell alien landings and have "evidence", but those are indeed far fetched. AIDs comes from non-human primates. We really didn't have the bio-technology in the 1950's to create viruses... Again, I'm not arguing that people don't believe this is a possibility. I'm just saying its not true. Link to post Share on other sites
Panther Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 right , and if I was arguing whether or not it was true I would probably agree with you and add on the other hand who knows thats just the way I think.But what I am trying to argue is that Reverend Wright has been made out to be something he is not and that the media firestorm has been a total farce.Mainly my argument throught has been calling Reverend Wright a hate speaker which has become a popular thing to do is totaly insane. The whole contraversy seemed like a joke at first to me but once people started buying into it I became fustrated.So let me just be clear all I am saying is that nothing Wright has said falls under anti-american or hate speach.As far as his worldview I think its totaly understandable considering well history - BLACK WALL STREET google it Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted May 7, 2008 Share Posted May 7, 2008 I am so relieved. Thank you voters of NC and IN for coming to your senses.Me too. Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 hard-working Americans = white Americans??? Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 http://www.usatoday.com/news/politics/elec...interview_N.htm Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted May 8, 2008 Share Posted May 8, 2008 The loathing I feel for her is growing exponentially, on a pretty much hourly basis. Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted May 8, 2008 Author Share Posted May 8, 2008 I have called a press conference for 1pm EST. I will be announcing that I have formally shifted my allegiance from HRC to BO. It is time for her to drop out. It's time. I disagreed with everyone calling for her to drop out over the last month or so. I don't disagree any more. Link to post Share on other sites
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