radiokills Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 ive been meaning to post this for some time. if someone can explain this it would be great. i feel like such an idiot posting it even if it is true, is it even possible to have a bad experience with a brownie? Also during this time' date=' Tweedy quit smoking marijuana after a particularly bad experience with some cannabis brownies, but his habit would not be deterred.[/quote'] Quote Link to post Share on other sites
alison the wilca Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 yes, it is VERY possible to have a bad brownie experience. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Preferred B Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 yes, it is VERY possible to have a bad brownie experience. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug C Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 It is possible to get way too high from brownies/spacecakes. In Amsterdam, I was literally brushed by a streetcar. I thought if I follow the tracks, I'll make it back to the Boat Hotel. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
radiokills Posted March 7, 2008 Author Share Posted March 7, 2008 i was more asking about the content of the wikipedia entry, as in the validity of it. ive had brownies many times and im a fairly regular smoker, i dont see how its possible to have a bad experience with pot. besides having a coughing fit or something along those lines. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
myboyblue Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 i was more asking about the content of the wikipedia entry, as in the validity of it. ive had brownies many times and im a fairly regular smoker, i dont see how its possible to have a bad experience with pot. besides having a coughing fit or something along those lines. I'm not sure if it's possible. Keep trying. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 i was more asking about the content of the wikipedia entry, as in the validity of it. ive had brownies many times and im a fairly regular smoker, i dont see how its possible to have a bad experience with pot. besides having a coughing fit or something along those lines. It's in the Kot book. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug C Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 I have been higher than I wanted to be a few times. That is all that I meant by a bad experience. I didn't mean like a bad trip or the like. I have no idea on the wikipedia validity. Anything on Wikipedia is suspect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
k8tee Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 i was more asking about the content of the wikipedia entry, as in the validity of it. ive had brownies many times and im a fairly regular smoker, i dont see how its possible to have a bad experience with pot. besides having a coughing fit or something along those lines. Attribution in said wikipedia entry: ^ Kot 2004, p. 94-96 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aricandover Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 I've had pot laced with pcp or some such shit, and I can tell you, if you don't know what's coming it could freak you out bad enough to never touch the stuff again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
winter party person Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 ive known people who have "bad" experiences with pot. i'm sure a brownie with too much pot combined and an already unstable emotional state are not a great mix--for some people at least. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Three dollars and 63 cents Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 It's in the Kot book. It is--I'm reading it now and weirdly enough read that part this afternoon. Let this be a cautionary tale Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Edie Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 It's possible. I went to Jamaica in the late 70s and smoked some of the local weed and got waaaay higher than I wanted to. I did not smoke again for many years. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 I've had pot laced with pcp or some such shit, and I can tell you, if you don't know what's coming it could freak you out bad enough to never touch the stuff again.I too have smoked weed that was laced with something evil. The guy who gave it to me soon regretted it, because I couldn't get off his couch for about four hours and threw up several times in his bathroom later on before I felt well enough to leave. He was used to that crap, and thought it would be fun not to warn me about it. I'd had years of experience with the stuff before that night without any problems. Since then, though, I've only returned to it a few times. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reni Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 the worst experience I ever had on any substance was from a pot brownie......I thought I was going to die. seriously. I was high for over 24 hours. It was awful. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Stefanie Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 this cop calls 911 because he thinks he's dying from pot brownies. "i think we're dead. i really do." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reni Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 I have heard that.....and before my experience I would have thought that was hilarious......now? I can whole heartedly empathize. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panther Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 I smoked this sketchy pot once that I later found out was laced with coke, It was a really hot summer night and it just took a toll on me.I then collapsed but was completely out of it so when trying to get up I was sort of wiggling around lol, I felt retarded/embarrassed and scared the shit out of my friends. I later smoked some hash and it calmed me down. Man I doubt all the hippies from the 60s would enjoy all the hydro crap we have up here in the Canada these days. Outdoor Bud is the only way to go. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Panther Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 another thing, anyone notice how good A.M sounds high, I mean sure most of Wilco Quote Link to post Share on other sites
napoleon Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 i'm sorry, but it's always been my dream to beat A-Man. http://forums.viachicago.org/index.php?sho...mp;hl=wikipedia Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BigWheeledWagon Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 If I remember the Kot book correctly, Jeff allegedly suffered a panic attack after partaking of the "special" brownies and while listening to Television's "Marquee Moon." I'm not sure the experience was attributed solely to marijuana, and if you've read some about Jeff's difficulties with panic attacks and migraines (as luck would have it, Jeff writes about this in today's NY Times), this is something he's always struggled with. The experience did deter him from using pot anymore (despite the wikipedia entry's contradictory claim that he would not be detered), and the book made it seem that this was from fear of inducing another panic attack. As Jeff explained in his Times piece, panic attacks operate in a vicious cycle where the anxiety over having another panic attack almost inevitably leads to more panic attacks. I'm sure the association between the attack and the brownies, even had that not been the true catalyst for the panic attack, was enough to make pot a lot less appealing. Anyway, it seems a little strange and more than a little invasive discussing something so personal to someone I don't know -- I can't imagine having a board out there where people who had never met me discussed my most private moments because they were interested in my work. Jeff, however, has been willing to discuss his issues with panic attacks and migraines quite openly -- as a fellow migraine sufferer, his Times article rings so true and offers some real insight into the problem. As for the brownie incident on the van ride to New Orleans, keep in mind that Jay Bennett is the source of this story, and his purpose in offering it seems to be to illustrate how he was there for Jeff and helped him through the experience, thus cementing his position in the band as Jeff's confidant and musical partner. I don't think Jeff's ever offered his side of the story, and given Jay's departure from the band shortly before providing this interview with Kot, this very well may have colored Jay's version of events. For all we really know, Jeff may have said, "Wow, this song is kind of intense when you're high," Jay may have responded, "Yeah, don't get too freaked out," and that may have been the extent of it. Jeff may have quit smoking pot soon after this for the reason most people quit -- they grow out of it (yes, I know Jeff had a drug problem long after this, but that was an actual addiction issue related to the whole migraine/panic attack/depression issue). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ChooChooCharlie Posted March 7, 2008 Share Posted March 7, 2008 I don't think Jeff's ever offered his side of the story, and given Jay's departure from the band shortly before providing this interview with Kot, this very well may have colored Jay's version of events. For all we really know, Jeff may have said, "Wow, this song is kind of intense when you're high," Jay may have responded, "Yeah, don't get too freaked out," and that may have been the extent of it.I too have questioned the veracity of mr. bennett with his side of the story. The story seemed completely offered to say what a great guy he was to comfort Jeff in his time of need. Given the timing of the interview it certainly is suspect, although still entirely possible. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stickman Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 i'm sorry, but it's always been my dream to beat A-Man. http://forums.viachicago.org/index.php?sho...mp;hl=wikipedia In a thread he posted in too. Sheesh. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 Pot brownies are in essence a different drug delivery system (DDS) than smoking. When you feel you might be getting too high while smoking (so I hear), you can stop smoking and pretty soon, you will be less high. Good dosage control. When you eat it, you release a massive dose of cannabinoids all at once. Poor dosage control, and it can freak some people out. I think pot brownies were a better option when weed was not as puissant as it is today. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
giraffo Posted March 14, 2008 Share Posted March 14, 2008 wasn't there an article where Tweedy mentioned his son even reading that article and Tweedy had to talk to him about all his personal information available? that's pretty scary stuff for a father to have to do that kind of damage control the instant your son can read the computer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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