cryptique Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 I changed the thread title to better reflect what he's being investigated for. The initial reports made it sound like he was actually taking part in the running of a prostitution ring. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 More often than not, the prostitute.they get paid, right? I'm mostly kidding, of course, and MrRain explained my thoughts for me. Edit: I'm still on the fence on the exploitation thing, though. They're offering a service and getting paid for it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 [quote name='JUDE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I didn't say I had sympathy for him, I said I didn't give a shit if he dabbled in a little of this and that. I would be willing to bet Spitzer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gogo Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Maybe he means when females/males women are bought and sold into the sex trade as little boys/girls vs. what one finds when calling the local escort service number found in your phone book, or hiring one of the men/women who have websites up advertising themselves as "photograph models".Very few of those folks are "independent contractors". Most people involved in prostitution, in whatever form, have either really harsh family backgrounds, or drug problems, or whatever. It's almost never just a career choice like any other. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted March 10, 2008 Author Share Posted March 10, 2008 My point, is that he is a total hypocrite, and by extension, the exact sort of person who should not hold office.If you're going to hold to that criterion, you can pretty much dismiss every elected official in the country right now. Good luck finding anyone to replace them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I would be willing to bet Spitzer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Very few of those folks are "independent contractors". Most people involved in prostitution, in whatever form, have either really harsh family backgrounds, or drug problems, or whatever. It's almost never just a career choice like any other. Oh - I know that. There is actually a whole sex workers movement out there - but you probably knew that. I still find it funny that one can (still?) do such business without any problems in Las Vegas or wherever - but anywhere else - it is a crime. In this country - that is. I have been in several countries where it was legal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 This all happened just a few weeks ago. The media did not "dig" this one up - it was dropped in their laps by the feds. Not my point, my point is you must be extremely stupid or arrogant to think that in a position of scrutiny, such as Governor, you can get away with anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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caliber66 Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 If you're going to hold to that criterion, you can pretty much dismiss every elected official in the country right now. Good luck finding anyone to replace them.I'm with THDW...nickerson on this one. There's hypocrisy and there's hypocrisy, and this one qualifies as one or the other. I'd put this one about on the level of a Jim Bakker (who is soliciting donations again) and Ted Haggerty. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 A few details from the Trib... Spitzer is linked to prostitution ringBy Danny Hakim and William K. Rashbaum The New York Times 2:55 PM CDT, March 10, 2008 ALBANY, N.Y. Gov. Eliot Spitzer has been caught on a federal wiretap arranging to meet with a high-priced prostitute at a Washington hotel last month, according to a person briefed on the federal investigation. An affidavit in the federal investigation into a prostitution ring said that a wiretap recording captured a man identified as Client 9 on a telephone call confirming plans to have a woman travel from New York to Washington, where he had reserved a hotel room. The person briefed on the case identified Spitzer as Client 9. Spitzer on Monday made a brief public appearance during which he apologized for his behavior, and described it as a "private matter." "I have acted in a way that violates my obligation to my family and violates my or any sense of right or wrong," said Spitzer, who appeared with his wife Silda at his Manhattan office. "I apologize first and most importantly to my family. I apologize to the public to whom I promised better." "I have disappointed and failed to live up to the standard I expected of myself. I must now dedicate some time to regain the trust of my family." Before speaking, Spitzer stood with his arm around his wife; the two nodded and then strode forward together to face more than 100 reporters. Both had glassy, tear-filled eyes, but they did not cry. The governor spoke for perhaps a minute and did not address his political future. He declined to take questions and promised to report back soon. As he went to leave, three reporters screamed out, "Are you resigning? Are you resigning?" and Spitzer charged out of the room, slamming the door. The governor learned that he had been implicated in the prostitution inquiry when a federal official contacted his staff last Friday, according to the person briefed on the case. The governor informed his top aides Sunday night and this morning of his involvement. He canceled his public events on Monday and scheduled the announcement for this afternoon after inquiries from The New York Times. The governor's aides appeared shaken before he spoke, and one of them began to weep as they waited for him to make his statement at his Manhattan office. The man described as Client 9 in court papers arranged to meet with a prostitute who was part of the ring, Emperors Club VIP, on the night of Feb. 13. Spitzer traveled to Washington that evening, according to a person told of his travel arrangements. The affidavit says that Client 9 met with the woman in hotel room 871 but does not identify the hotel. Spitzer stayed at the Mayflower Hotel in Washington on Feb. 13, according to a source who was told of his travel arrangements. Room 871 at the Mayflower Hotel that evening was registered under another name. Federal prosecutors rarely charge clients in prostitution cases, which are generally seen as state crimes. But the Mann Act, passed by Congress in 1910 to address prostitution, human trafficking and what was viewed at the time as immorality in general, makes it a crime to transport someone between states for the purpose of prostitution. The four defendants charged in the case unsealed last week were all charged with that crime, along with several others. Spitzer had a difficult first year in office, rocked by a mix of scandal and legislative setbacks. In recent weeks, however, Spitzer seemed to have rebounded, with his Democratic Party poised to perhaps gain control of the state Senate for the first time in four decades. Spitzer gained national attention when he served as attorney general with his relentless pursuit of Wall Street wrongdoing. As attorney general, he also had prosecuted at least two prostitution rings as head of the state's organized crime task force. In one such case in 2004, Spitzer spoke with revulsion and anger after announcing the arrest of 16 people for operating a high-end prostitution ring out of Staten Island. "This was a sophisticated and lucrative operation with a multitiered management structure," Spitzer said at the time. "It was, however, nothing more than a prostitution ring." Albany for months has been roiled by bitter fighting and accusations of dirty tricks. The Albany County district attorney is set to issue in the coming days the results of his investigation into Spitzer's first scandal, his aides' involvement in an effort to tarnish Majority Leader Joseph L. Bruno, the state's top Republican. Copyright Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 If you're going to hold to that criterion, you can pretty much dismiss every elected official in the country right now. Good luck finding anyone to replace them. Go on, I Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Oh - I know that. There is actually a whole sex workers movement out there - but you probably knew that. I still find it funny that one can (still?) do such business without any problems in Las Vegas or wherever - but anywhere else - it is a crime. In this country - that is. I have been in several countries where it was legal.I believe it's actually technically illegal in Las Vegas. Other parts of Nevada are a different story. My brother's brother in law (got that?) lives in Vegas and apparently a lot has been made of the cops cracking down somewhat in the casinos. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 "The most highly ranked prostitutes cost $5,500 an hour, prosecutors said." I think you added a "0", no? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
watch me fall Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I think you added a "0", no? Nope. Edit - Well crap, they changed the article on me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EL the Famous Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 anybody who can get someone to pay them $5500 for the hibbity jibbity deserves to be considered above the law. if your p**sy is that good and all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 Nope. Edit - Well crap, they changed the article on me.apology accepted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 I believe it's actually technically illegal in Las Vegas. Other parts of Nevada are a different story. My brother's brother in law (got that?) lives in Vegas and apparently a lot has been made of the cops cracking down somewhat in the casinos. I knew it was somewhere out there - was not sure where. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
viatroy Posted March 10, 2008 Share Posted March 10, 2008 a topical joke A man is driving down a deserted stretch of highway when he notices a sign out of the corner of his eye....It reads: SISTERS OF ST. FRANCISHOUSE OF PROSTITUTION10 MILES He thinks this is a figment of his imagination and drives on without a second thought. Soon he sees another sign which reads: SISTERS OF ST. FRANCISHOUSE OF PROSTITUTION5 MILES Suddenly he begins to realize that these signs are for real and drives past a third sign saying: SISTERS OF ST. FRANCISHOUSE OF PROSTITUTIONNEXT RIGHT His curiosity gets the best of him and he pulls into the drive. On the far side of the parking lot is a stone building with a small sign next to the door reading: SISTERS OF ST. FRANCIS He climbs the steps and rings the bell. The door is answered by a nun in a long black habit who asks, 'What may we do for you my son?' He answers, 'I saw your signs along the highway and was interested in possibly doing business....' 'Very well my son. Please follow me.' He is led through many winding passages and is soon quite disorientated. The nun stops at a closed door and tells the man, 'Please knock on this door.' He does so and another nun in a long habit, holding a tin cup answers the door... This nun instructs, 'Please place $100 in the cup then go through the large wooden door at the end of the hallway.' He puts $100 in the cup, eagerly trots down the hall and slips through the door pulling it shut behind him. The door locks, and he finds himself back in the parking lot facing another sign: GO IN PEACE. YOU HAVE JUST BEEN SCREWED BY THE SISTERS OF ST. FRANCIS. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
W(TF) Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 At $179,000, New York Gov. Eliot Spitzer (D) draws the largest salary among governors who actually accept one.http://www.stateline.org/live/details/story?contentId=207914 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Kinsley Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 we had hoped Spitzer would somehow change ... to something a little more user-friendly.I'd say your wish was granted. Well, now we know the difference between Dems and Reps - when democrats get busted for something like this, it's with a woman. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wilco Worshipper Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 PS BTW I seem to find out about a lot of current events on viachicago...it is pretty funny! Same. I tell my friends all the time I don't need to watch the news, I just come here It's not JUST about WILCO* *But mostly Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 anybody who can get someone to pay them $5500 for the hibbity jibbity deserves to be considered above the law. if your p**sy is that good and all. Hell..anybody that can afford to pay $5500 for some trim.... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted March 11, 2008 Share Posted March 11, 2008 I have just editorially called for Spitzer to resign. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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