mfwahl Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 MOST OF YOU ARE NOT GETTING THE BIG PICTURE ! OBAMA MIGHT BE THE ANTICHRIST. SOME OF THE REASONS ARE 1. HE IS THE LAST ONE TO CARRY HIS NAME .(HE HAS TWO LITTLE GIRLS NO BOYS ) 2.HIS OLD ZIP CODE IN CHICAGO IS 60606 (666). 3 HE BASICALLY CAME OUT OF NOWHERE.(AND NOW HE MIGHT BE THE MOST POWERFUL MAN IN THE WORLD). 4 HE GREW UP IN HAWAII (ONE OF THE THE MOST HOTTEST VOLCANIC ACTIVITY IN THE WORLD ) 5.HE IS FROM MUSLIM DESCENT (HE MIGHT SAY HES A CHRISTIAN BUT HE STILL HAVE MUSLIM BLOOD IN HIM. 6 HE IS VERY CHARISMATIC (PEOPLE FAINT WHEN HE SPEAKS). 7. HE ALSO HAS 18 LETTERS IN HIS NAME (6+6+6 =18 ).8. LAST BUT NOT LEAST HE PICKED BIDEN AS HIS RUNNING MATE . (OBAMA BIDEN, OSAMA BIN LADEN) I CAN GO ON ALL NIGHT WITH DOZENS OF MORE EXAMPLES. IF YOU DONT BELIEVE ME ITS ALL IN THE BIBLE (WHICH WAS WRITTEN OVER 2000 YEARS AGO). I'M JUST SAYING HE MIGHT BE!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
fatheadfred Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 they showed the some of the clinton speech on the british news earlier today, and i'm sure i heard him finish it with saying something about Obama leading America, and America leading the World. or did i make that up? apart from the fact that the man is a grade A plonker, and i find/found most of what he says offensive to my tastes, if i did hear it correctly, i find this slightly more offensive than his usual balls. it just kind of showed me that, republican or democrat, there's still a long way to go before the political class in america wake up the modern world and how it wishes to be run. see Ron Paul for minding our own bidness. I agree that we need to fix within instead of abroad. It seems that the Dems are beginning to trend toward this. I know for sure the Reps are not. I'm sure he's equally stunned that ABC uses George Stephanopoulos as a political analyst. He's a tool. Link to post Share on other sites
viatroy Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Not that I expect any Bush apologist to actually read these ... RFK investigation of vote theft Greg Palast on vote theft investigation Hacking the electronic vote Link to post Share on other sites
jakobnicholas Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 From Jay Leno: Barack Obama has chosen Sen. Joseph Biden to be his vice presidential running mate. Biden has 35 years Link to post Share on other sites
ikol Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 He's a tool. Jon Stewart or George Stephanopoulos? Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I'm sure I will regret this post. (Actually, I am sure I will regrest his post). I usually abort these type posts. But, you guys don't even know me outside of this internet persona...so I will let fly. As a former true believer, passionate political scientist and adherent, I am reminded why the adjective "former" entered my self description. Recognizing that I was jaded, angry and resentful, I fully and rationally chose to become a dispassionate (if and when possible) observer. I often catch myself and end up deleting responses that I recognize as being inflammatory. It may seem that I am proclaiming myself as being 'holier than thou', and if it comes across like that, so be it. At a certain point, I realized that demonization and lionization is destructive. They serve no purpose:"George W. Bush is a evil, bumbling antichrist!" "George Bush is a stalwart defender of American values!" "Barack Obama is an inexperienced, closet Muslim!" "Barack Obama is our last best hope""Bill Clinton is a lying, womanizing sleazebag!" "Bill Clinton is the man of vision""John Kerry is a flipflopping traitor!" "John Kerry is man of principle""George H. W. Bush is an out of touch wimp!" "George H. W. Bush is a principled man of experience""John McCain is a corrupt, crazy nut!" "John McCain is a passionate, war hero" Destructive. Inauthentic. Hampering discussion of the greater problems and issues. Obama has been made a superstar of rock star proportions. This is understandable given the somewhat less than charismatic candidates of the democratic party since John Kennedy (Clinton being the notable exception). Obama is a very attractive candidate. He's short on experience, but lack of experience doesn't necessarily lead to disaster...however, Bush and Carter are very notable exceptions there. I firmly believe Obama loves his country and will strive to do what he feels is best for his country. McCain has been the darling of the media for years (at least until this election cycle). A war hero, a 'maverick'. He is decidedly lacking in the charisma department, but he has the resume'. I firmly believe that McCain loves his country and will strive to do what feels is best for his country. It has become so much about the process rather than the end product. But,to a certain extent, it's always been that way going back to the genesis of our country. (Most notably the first Adams v. Jefferson contest and all subsequent contests).But with the 24 hour news cycle and the explosive growth of information available through the internet, it has taken a really nasty tone. Now we have political commentators sounding like wrestlers and bloggers becoming political pundits. It' like Idiocracy coming to life. I won't plead for civility, that is arrogant and fruitless. But I simply note that we are all in the same boat. Let's be friends who have different opinions not snarling surrogate attack dogs. I imagine that come January, the sun will come up no matter who wins. Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Crow, that was very very good. I'm glad you posted. Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 As a professional broadcast designer serving a couple of national networks, I feel qualified to extend my pity to you if you believe this to be an un-tampered with screen grab. dude... it's for real... i'll see if i can find the actual video online Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Good stuff Crow. Link to post Share on other sites
fatheadfred Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Jon Stewart or George Stephanopoulos? Step's a tool.I love Stewart. Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I don't think the "football stadium with a mock greek temple" is such a great move. That's ok though because I have a feeling the pasty white guys will just steal votes and hijack the whole damn election. wtf... the people saying it's a 'mock greek temple' stage setup... have you people never stepped foot in, or seen photos of the United States capitol city? srsly folks: Bush's 2004 RNC stage also: Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I'm sure he's equally stunned that ABC uses George Stephanopoulos as a political analyst. But do you think Sterwart is wrong in what he said? I don't I've always said that God could part the clouds monty python style and point out a democrat and anoint him and the right would turn it into a negative. I agree with Stewart 100%. Besides if McCain cured cancer I think Stephanopoulos would be far more fair than Rove. But while we are at it, don't forget to include analysts like, Matlin, Buchanan, Scarbourough etc... All of whom are more fair and thoughtful in their comments than Rove, who is a 1000% partisan hack through and through. Umm and about that stadium speech tonight. Obama is playign to the people, not the elite. SO how better to do thhat than open the doors to as many as possible. There is also a signifcance to the whole stage set up (Very similar to the one the Vriginia Republicna Party used) The stage looks like so many governnmennt buildings aroung Washington DC, in particular the Lincoln Memorial. and oh about 45 years ago today Martin Luther King gave his I hhave a Dream Speech at the Lincoln Memorial. There is a ton of symbolism at work here. The other factor is intimidation. Obama draws crowds in the tens of thousands, McCain does not Even at this late date McCain will only draw hundreds maybe a couple thousand tops. It could be a matter of gamesmanship on Obama's part. LLast thing...the "assassination plot" I find it interesting that the police can let these guys off so quickly as not being a credible threat. They had guns, ammo, they talked about shooting him etc... Contrast that with the liberty city guys who are accused terrorists facing life + in prison for plotting against the US. Those guys had no weaponry, no vehicles, no plans etc... Not a very credible threat, but they are still in jail, as are thhe guys who were going to destroy the Brooklyn bridge...with a blow torch. So this whole credible thing is abullshit if it is not applied equally. I'm not saying there is a conspiracy plot here, but the application of standards is f*&ked up. Link to post Share on other sites
ShuckOwens Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Not that I expect any Bush apologist to actually read these ... RFK investigation of vote theft Greg Palast on vote theft investigation Hacking the electronic voteThe only possible evidence that vote theft is no longer being propagated is if Obama wins the election, let's face it. Link to post Share on other sites
Party @ the Moontower Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Why is Obama doing his speech in a football stadium? They want to open it up to as many people possible, and the other venues are to small.This one holds 80,000 allowing more regular everyday people to come. It's not to look like a cool rock star god. It's going to be a working event they say... "The campaign noted that, aside from the speech itself, it's designed to be "a working event" that enables attendees to phone-bank and reach out to potential voters through a variety of online tools. Holding the speech in a venue that holds 80,000 people also allows tens of thousands of Colorado residents to attend and participate Link to post Share on other sites
fatheadfred Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I firmly believe Obama loves his country and will strive to do what he feels is best for his country. I firmly believe that McCain loves his country and will strive to do what feels is best for his country. This is where discourse surfaces. We all perceive each candidate as having different ideas of what they think is best for the country. I don't know. I think I would prefer energetic, sometimes hateful, discourse vs. apathy. Conflict is necessary. The only possible evidence that vote theft is no longer being propagated is if Obama wins the election, let's face it. Uh, no. And we'll forget Bush's blunders if Obama's elected? Uh, no. wtf... the people saying it's a 'mock greek temple' stage setup... have you people never stepped foot in, or seen photos of the United States capitol city? srsly folks: Bush's 2004 RNC stage Launch pad to hell is what that is. Link to post Share on other sites
Party @ the Moontower Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 There has been some great discourse in here the last few days. It starts with an S and ends with an s Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 McCain's 2008 RNC stage setup (clearly they love America much more than the Democrats, it's pretty obvious from this stage): you swap out those American flags w/ Nazi germany flags and it resembles a Nuremberg-esque Rally ZOMG McCain is channeling Hitler, that's much worse than "Ancient Greece"!!!!! Link to post Share on other sites
ShuckOwens Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 It starts with an S and ends with an s The political discourse here is definately elevated when none of the participants question the established talking points. Link to post Share on other sites
ikol Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Step's a tool.I love Stewart. What does your love for Stewart have to do with whether he's a tool? But do you think Sterwart is wrong in what he said? I don't I've always said that God could part the clouds monty python style and point out a democrat and anoint him and the right would turn it into a negative. I agree with Stewart 100%. Besides if McCain cured cancer I think Stephanopoulos would be far more fair than Rove. But while we are at it, don't forget to include analysts like, Matlin, Buchanan, Scarbourough etc... All of whom are more fair and thoughtful in their comments than Rove, who is a 1000% partisan hack through and through. I do think he's wrong. He's not at all stunned that Rove is an analyst for Fox. Link to post Share on other sites
Party @ the Moontower Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I don't understand the Democrats' obsession with equating McCain to Bush - didn't Bush win two terms, the second when his approval rating was in the toilet, too? Perhaps because Bush has fucked this country up left and right and M has voted 100% with him this year despite the fact that the American people to do not approve. So McCain does not care the majority of people he would be serving think Bush has let us down, and wishes to continue down the same path. Oh, and I truly believe Bush stold the election, and Kery and the dems suck for letting it go. Link to post Share on other sites
ShuckOwens Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 McCain's 2008 RNC stage setup (clearly they love America much more than the Democrats, it's pretty obvious from this stage): you swap out those American flags w/ Nazi germany flags and it resembles a Nuremberg-esque Rally ZOMG McCain is channeling Hitler, that's much worse than "Ancient Greece"!!!!!Putting aside of course, the fact that the Nazi party was a leftist movement. Link to post Share on other sites
Central Scrutinizer Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 Crow, don't regret saying something so well. Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 It starts with an S and ends with an s Do you have a decoder ring for your posts that I didn't get? a cryptovariable? Link to post Share on other sites
viatroy Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 I like it crow. It's difficult to have a discussion on the merits of opposing policy when from the outset the preferred tone is one of is mudslinging and the idiotic dueling of pundits. I can't bear to watch mainstream media anymore -- there's a lot of information out there, but little of it rises to the surface when the media highlights sensationalism and panders to the lowest common denominator. Ultimately, and hopefully with input other than mainstream media, we all must come to our own conclusions. Personally, I find it hard to fathom than anyone not securely seated among the wealthy could find a reason to support policies that demean and damage the lower and middle class for the benefit of the richest of us. I can't find any justification for a government that reduces or eliminates services to those of us most in need, while lining the pockets of the powerful. There are many people who have chosen the path of public service because they believe it's the right thing to do -- not for power, not for monetary reward, but because they believe government has a legitimate role to play in improving the lives of its citizens across the board, not reinforcing the aristocracy. Link to post Share on other sites
fatheadfred Posted August 28, 2008 Share Posted August 28, 2008 What does your love for Stewart have to do with whether he's a tool? I do think he's wrong. He's not at all stunned that Rove is an analyst for Fox. I think George Stephanaluffugus is a tool. I love Jon Stewart. He is not a tool. Rove is an entire box of tools. Link to post Share on other sites
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