remphish1 Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Less then a month to go until I don't have to see another political advertisement on tv! Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Less then a month to go until I don't have to see another political advertisement on tv! Ummmm Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Yea, really and I posted some interesting shit over there just now.... LouieB Link to post Share on other sites
remphish1 Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 41 pages is too much to read through. Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 Just read the last few posts...the rest get dated pretty quickly anyway.... (submininal message.....vote Obama...) LouieB Link to post Share on other sites
quarter23cd Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 the other election thread has 9 more perfectly good pages left on it.Well, maybe 3 or 4 good pages, to be realistic. The rest will be average, at best. Link to post Share on other sites
remphish1 Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 Well, maybe 3 or 4 good pages, to be realistic. The rest will be average, at best. Sorry for jumping the gun y'all! Link to post Share on other sites
Party @ the Moontower Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I can only handle one election thread at a time, plus, I still have to think of a gift for your dad. Link to post Share on other sites
remphish1 Posted October 7, 2008 Author Share Posted October 7, 2008 I can only handle one election thread at a time, plus, I still have to think of a gift for your dad. Swell Link to post Share on other sites
jenbobblehead Posted October 7, 2008 Share Posted October 7, 2008 I am comfortable with working on a new thread: this morning on NPR i heard some woman in Nevada say that she thought Sarah Palin was a class act. Now there are a lot of things that you can call her--ambitious, cute, funny, driven, aggressive, personable, whatever. But Class Act is definitely not among those descriptors. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 National Rifle Association endorses McCain By SHARON THEIMER, Associated Press Writer 27 minutes ago WASHINGTON - The National Rifle Association is endorsing Republican presidential nominee John McCain despite differences with the Arizona senator on gun-show rules and campaign finance restrictions. NRA Executive Vice President Wayne LaPierre and the chairman of the NRA's political action committee planned stops Thursday in Pennsylvania, Missouri, Colorado and Nevada to talk about the move. LaPierre said the two agree on many issues important to the group. "He's cast more than 60 votes in the Senate in support of the Second Amendment," LaPierre said. The NRA's Political Victory Fund has spent more than $2.3 million opposing Democratic nominee Barack Obama. The chairman of the political action committee, Chris W. Cox, says its spending in the presidential race will grow to "eight figures" by Election Day. Besides ads, encouraging battleground-state gun owners to vote will be a key focus, he said. The PAC was running an ad Thursday in USA Today accusing Obama of waffling on gun-rights issues and challenging his statements that he supports the right to bear arms. Obama has said he respects the Second Amendment but doesn't think it precludes "some commonsense gun laws so that we don't have kids being shot on the streets of cities like Chicago." The NRA PAC's future spending will target Obama on gun issues and start publicizing the records of McCain and his running mate, Alaska Gov. Sarah Palin, LaPierre said. McCain's selection of Palin was a plus, LaPierre said. "She's a hunter, she's a Second Amendment supporter and she's a tremendous asset to the ticket," he said. Palin, an NRA member, received an A-plus rating from the group when she ran for governor in 2006. That compares to an NRA grade in the average range for McCain in his last Senate race. McCain isn't an NRA member. Palin has been an NRA booster, particularly for its education and safety programs, during her career in government. As mayor of Wasilla, Alaska, she used $750 from her city campaign fund to upgrade her NRA membership. The NRA doesn't always endorse presidential candidates. It has backed President Bush but declined to endorse Bob Dole in the 1996 race or President George H.W. Bush in 1992. Obama has been endorsed by the American Hunters and Shooters Association, which calls itself a "mainstream group of hunters" that supports safe and responsible gun ownership. ___ On the Net: National Rifle Association's Political Victory Fund: http://www.nrapvf.org/ American Hunters and Shooters Association: http://www.huntersandshooters.com/ Link to post Share on other sites
Central Scrutinizer Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Dunno if this hasn't already been posted ("Nevermind" -- Emily Latella) but Dave Stewart (how on earth did he disappear for so long?) has created a song/video for Obama. An American Prayer Link to post Share on other sites
Preferred B Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Obama is currently leading by 10 points in Wisconsin ... and by 44 points in Madison. Ha! Link to post Share on other sites
NightOfJoy Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Obama is currently leading by 10 points in Wisconsin ... and by 44 points in Madison. Ha! Thats wonderful news. WI is always a concern for me when it comes to national elections.......now if IN would come to their senses and get on the winning team.......GO O! Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 As with four years ago, I still STILL can't figure out how Wilco fans would vote for the Republicans, but that's just me. LouieBI'll assume this is a joke? Link to post Share on other sites
renic Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 I'll assume this is a joke? no, its not. it really befuddles him. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 no, its not. it really befuddles him.really? Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 And why is it that Palin/McCain rallies have begun to sound more and more like that scene in Frankenstein where the frightened villagers form a posse, just before they go on a rampage? The mere utterance of the word Link to post Share on other sites
renic Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 really? yes, but if you hear him talk about it IRL he doesn't sound like an asshole like i'm sure he comes across on the board. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 yes, but if you hear him talk about it IRL he doesn't sound like an asshole like i'm sure he comes across on the board.no, it's cool. Just don't know what being a fan of a certain band has to do with who you vote for. Link to post Share on other sites
austrya Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 The whole Palin/McCain thing really reminds me of The Crucible lately. Link to post Share on other sites
renic Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 no, it's cool. Just don't know what being a fan of a certain band has to do with who you vote for. some people associate their music with their political views. my mom did that for awhile & she's about 8 years older then lou, so maybe the two were more entwined as they were coming up? Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 huh, ok. Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Deadheads 4 McCain Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted October 9, 2008 Share Posted October 9, 2008 Pretty good (if biased) overview of where McCain's campaign is at, imo: Reality intrudes and McCain bucklesBy Dan PayneOctober 9, 2008 FOR MONTHS, political reporters have reported on what they know best, politics. Attack ads, conventions, polls, debates, and gotchas - what George Will calls stagecraft, as opposed to statecraft, the ideas of the candidates. That suddenly changed when reality intruded in the form of an economic crisis. Wall Street was a presidential test and McCain flunked. When the Wall Street crisis hit, John McCain looked dazed and confused and, yes, old. His clueless initial response - saying the fundamentals of the economy are strong - cost him credibility at a crucial moment. Wall Street was a test of presidential capability and McCain buckled. Ineffectual under pressure. McCain pulled a transparent stunt in pretending to suspend his campaign so he could go to Washington and somehow appear relevant. He was quickly exposed as over his head when he sat for 40 minutes in dead silence during a discussion by congressional leaders at the White House. Then House Republicans turned down the first plan, leaving McCain with little to say or do. A week later, he quietly voted for the pork-laden Senate bill and slipped out of town. The public saw it first. Unlike McCain, Americans quickly knew things were bad. Nearly everyone owns stock these days, in retirement accounts. As the Dow plunged, Barack Obama jumped into a statistically significant lead nationally and in crucial states. Presidential stature. Obama conducted himself with cool and calm during the bailout crisis, just as he did in Tuesday's debate. In short, he looks presidential. We haven't had one in so long I forgot what a president looks like. The reality of unemployment. Obama is forcing McCain to spend TV dollars in expensive toss-up states like Ohio and Pennsylvania. McCain's quitting Michigan was about too few dollars, too few voters - a recent published poll showed Obama leading by 13 points - and too few jobs. A job is all that matters when you're unemployed. The Labor Department reported 159,000 jobs were lost in September. Since January, we've lost more than 750,000 jobs and are on our way to 1 million by year's end. Right now, we are a nation with 2 million unemployed. McCain wants to disqualify Obama. A losing campaign has one chance to win when it's running out of time: disqualify the opponent. McCain's plan is to turn Obama into a risky weirdo who's not like us (white people). Desperate times, desperate hockey mom. Sarah Palin is out attackin' Obama's character using a flimsy connection to the 1960s radical, anti-Vietnam War bomber Bill Ayers - they once served on a nonprofit board together. Sarah calls this "palin' around with terrorists." Obama has denounced Ayers' words and actions, most of which occurred when Obama was 8. Obama used the attack to make his move against McCain. Ready, aim, post. The Obama campaign armed its supporters (it's got over 2 million volunteers and contributors) with a 13-minute Web video that had been produced for just this occasion. It's the true story of McCain's strong ties to Charles Keating, a convicted real estate swindler. A charter member of the Keating Five during the savings and loan scandal in the late 1980s, McCain improperly and unsuccessfully used his office to call off federal regulators. McCain, then 58, had received $112,000 in Keating-related campaign contributions plus free trips for McCain and his family on Keating's private jet to the tycoon's retreat in the Bahamas. Careful what you wish for. Can you imagine 10 of these interminable town hall debates as McCain wanted? Tuesday's debate was boring - except McCain calling Obama "that one" probably got the attention of black voters. CNN's post-debate poll showed 54 percent of those who had watched felt Obama won; 30 percent said McCain. CBS had it 40-26 percent Obama. Those polls understated Obama's command of the evening. Obama managed to tie McCain's ceaseless charge about the surge to the financial crisis. Obama said we need the $10 billion a month the war costs. Tom Brokaw played Clock Nazi the whole night, enforcing time limits just when the candidates started to really debate. McCain quickly left the stage, grasping the reality of his predicament. Dan Payne is a Boston-area media consultant who has worked for Democratic candidates around the country. He does political analysis for WBUR radio.http://www.boston.com/bostonglobe/editoria...ostPop_Emailed1 Link to post Share on other sites
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