Congrats to President-Elect OBAMA

[PigSooie]

[Edie]

AZ is now a toss-up -- pretty interesting. Ohio is now a toss-up.

 

Last couple of days from the RealClearPolitics folks

 

11/02 Ohio Leaning Obama

[Analogman]

Third parties unlikely to spoil presidential race

 

 

By MITCH WEISS, Associated Press Writer Mitch Weiss, Associated Press Writer

[hazel]

i just want this to be over. my head is spinning.

[John Smith]

Its not presidential politics but Dick Durbins daughter (40) passed away yesterday.

[mountain bed]

Its not presidential politics but Dick Durbins daughter (40) passed away yesterday.

This is sad news. Wow, can Durbin be old enough to have a kid that's 40?

 

Anyway, I don't always agree with Durbin but he does seem to be a compasionate man whose priorities are in good order. The MB clan sends out heartfelt condolences to the family.

[quarter23cd]

Since the last presidential election, I have moved from a solidly-blue state (CT) to an iffy flip-flopper (OH). Shhhhh, its a movement, people--we call it redistributing the socialism^TM (still working on that title)--but lets keep it on the downlow. I have it from several reputable sources that my vote shifted to OH will change the face of the election. You heard it here first.

 

 

 

Another thought: Since voting almost 2 weeks ago, it feels almost surreal that this thing isn't over yet. Jeebus, can we just end this?

[Analogman]

Looks like Oprah had some voting machine trouble.

 

 

Religious left rallies for Democrats

[hazel]

every time i see john mccain do "air quotes" i feel as tho my head is going to explode. i was sobbing earlier today while watching obama, i am still really afraid this is going to go terribly wrong somehow, either stolen or mccain starts to lead and ends up winning. i need to get away from the tv because if i don't i won't turn it off.

[mountain bed]

Looks like Oprah had some voting machine trouble.

I've never understood why the media portrays the Republican Party as having church-going folks in their back pocket. It's not only wildly inaccurate, it's also grossly unfair. I know MANY people who are deeply religious that vote Democrat (or at least split ticket). I don't mean to offend anyone here, but many of the people the Republicans count on for the 'evangelical' vote seem to be completely brainwashed by blind faith. They'll stubbornly turn a deaf ear to irrefutable evidence (example: age of the Earth) and will gladly swallow whatver BS the party shovels at them. And then, behind their backs, party officals will mock them and make fun of them. David Kuo's book "Testing Faith" talks about this.

 

Anyway, the Armageddon Angels' day is just about over, kids. It's time to GET REAL.

[Analogman]

Sunday talk shows debate Pa., Hillary

 

Hillary Clinton

[John Smith]

I've never understood why the media portrays the Republican Party as having church-going folks in their back pocket. It's not only wildly inaccurate, it's also grossly unfair. I know MANY people who are deeply religious that vote Democrat (or at least split ticket). I don't mean to offend anyone here, but many of the people the Republicans count on for the 'evangelical' vote seem to be completely brainwashed by blind faith. They'll stubbornly turn a deaf ear to irrefutable evidence (example: age of the Earth) and will gladly swallow whatver BS the party shovels at them. And then, behind their backs, party officals will mock them and make fun of them. David Kuo's book "Testing Faith" talks about this.

 

Anyway, the Armageddon Angels' day is just about over, kids. It's time to GET REAL.

 

It's because the republican party gets the backing of the biggies, the Falwells (formerly) The robertsons, dobsons, Lahaye etc....

[Edie]

The big O is still above 50% in many of the main polls (RCP)

National CNN/Opinion Research Obama 53, McCain 46 Obama +7

National Rasmussen Reports Obama 51, McCain 46 Obama +5

National Gallup (Traditional)* Obama 51, McCain 43 Obama +8

National Gallup (Expanded)* Obama 52, McCain 43 Obama +9

National Diageo/Hotline Obama 50, McCain 45 Obama +5

National Reuters/C-SPAN/Zogby Obama 50, McCain 44 Obama +6

[hazel]

i just saw this new ad on tv, its pretty powerful. i teared up.

 

http://www.progressivefuture.org/american-tune%22

[M. (hristine]

That was a powerful speech.

[hazel]

That was a powerful speech.

 

it was, and what a crowd.

[M. (hristine]

Last night:

 

M. (hris: I wish I could watch the returns with you Tuesday.

viatroy: That's something I just have to do by myself.

[Analogman]

'Tis the season for tricking voters

 

By DEBORAH HASTINGS, AP National Writer Deborah Hastings, Ap National Writer

[viatroy]

Last night:

 

M. (hris: I wish I could watch the returns with you Tuesday.

viatroy: That's something I just have to do by myself.

 

 

I have a HUGE "Oh Yes We Did!" sign ready for my lawn.

[Sweet Papa Crimbo]

One thing that should be kept in mind:

 

The country is very divided. Where McCain is leading, his support is very strong. Where Obama is leading, his support is very strong.

 

If we don't find a way to come together after the election, then we are headed down a scary path.

 

There are Two different Americas now. And this should be frightening to you all.

[MattZ]

There are Two different Americas now. And this should be frightening to you all.

 

I think Obama will do a good job of bringing people together. If they are willing to be brought. My bigger fear is that the right will do everything in their power to continue polarizing the country with a view to 2010. McCain spent a lot of time in his campaign suggesting that Obama would lose a war to win an election. Let's ignore for a moment the type of campaign that McCain ran for the last 2 months and what that means about his desire to win an election. I just hope that the right doesn't spend the next two years "rooting" for Obama to fail so that they can take Congress back in 2010. Because Obama will fail if we don't work together.

[Sir Stewart]

If Obama wins, and fails as president, it would be Bush's fault.

[MattZ]

If Obama wins, and fails as president, it would be Bush's fault.

 

There's some truth to this. Presidents get entirely too much credit and blame. If this economy turns around, the Bushies will insist it was because of the moves they made before leaving office. And the Obama folks (if he is elected) will insist it was because of the moves Obama made in office. So we can continue to go around in circles. Yippee.

[Sweet Papa Crimbo]

If Obama wins, and fails as president, it would be Bush's fault.

 

 

If this is not ironic, it is sad.

 

Obama will be given as much slack and support by the Republicans as the Democrats gave Bush in 2001.

 

It is the nature of the political beast these days and I don't know how or if this train can be derailed.

[mountain bed]

If we don't find a way to come together after the election, then we are headed down a scary path.

You're absolutely right, Crow. But I do think no one in their right mind wants to have this country go into the crapper. There's too many good things worth saving to let the whole thing go down the drain.

 

Since we're at the end of this long road now I just want to say a couple of things:

 

1) I've really enjoyed these threads over the past 6 months. A LOT of good info has been passed around, and some well thought-out opinions have been voiced from all sides. Well done, folks.

 

2) For the most part civility has been the order of the day. I wasn't here in Fall '04 so I expected the worst. On some other boards it has been VERY ugly, so I'm glad VC has generally stayed above the fray. It gives one some hope - something that was declared dead in November '04.

 

All the best to you all.