CrushOfVeils80 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 It's fact, huh? His OPS with RISP is .957, a whopping .010 lower than his career OPS. And it's basically the same as his career OPS with the bases empty (.954). those are his career numbers yes but what are they in October and with the Yankees? Link to post Share on other sites
CrushOfVeils80 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Just for fun, who are the biggest assholes to ever play the game? Here are some off the top of my head: Ty Cobb, Rogers Hornsby, Barry Bonds, Jeff Kent, Ugueth Urbina, Roger Clemens, John McGraw something we agree on, Kent is a d bag as is Roidger Clemens As for Ted Williams maybe he calmed down after his playing days, my Dad got the chance to meet him in the 70's at some gun show or something and he was a good guy I guess, I have a signed ball he gave me Sure! If you believe that he actually ever existed. that story didnt get enough press....how funny Link to post Share on other sites
CrushOfVeils80 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Lincecum is a beast, I cant believe he got passed on by as many teams as he did in the 2006 draft, he flat dominated the Pac 10, he had 14.29 K's per 9 innings his last year at the U of Washington, he is small yes but he has an amazing arm, Im sure teams like the Reds, Rockies, Royals, Tigers, and Dodgers sure would love to have him right now, drafting baseball players is not rocket science Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 those are his career numbers yes but what are they in October and with the Yankees?I dunno. Before, as I understand it, you were just saying that he didn't hit with RISP period. His post-season numbers with the Yankees are a different matter. Link to post Share on other sites
CrushOfVeils80 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Arod was much better in the clutch in Sea, I dont have the numbers in front of me but I'd be shocked if that was incorrect and would buy someone an adult bevy Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 those are his career numbers yes but what are they in October and with the Yankees?Ah, but now you're moving the goalposts. Your original statement didn't mention anything about October: ARod doesnt hit with RISP this isnt criticism its just a factedit: Norbs beat me to it. Link to post Share on other sites
CrushOfVeils80 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I dont have all the numbers in front of me I apologize, it's like I'm getting the ARod microscope treatment now Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I don't have the time to average the numbers specifically for the Yankees, But 2008 w/RISP .8632007 1.1382006 .9392005 .8942004 .785 3 years his OPS w/RISP was under what he did in other situations, 2 years (2006 and 2007) it was over. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Did anyone mention Scott Olsen (florida pitcher) and Josh Willingham (mariners outfielder) to Nats? Yeah. Many Marlins fans are pissed. I'm not. Link to post Share on other sites
Oil Can Boyd Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 drafting baseball players is not rocket scienceRight - it's much more complicated. I would argue that of all of the "major" sports, baseball has the lowest success rate in terms of projecting future success of amatuer/high school/college players. And I think it has the largest gap between high school/college level and the majors. Every sport has its list of can't-miss players who missed but baseball's is pretty long. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 Maddon and Piniella voted Managers of Year:http://www.mlb.com/news/article.jsp?ymd=20...sp&c_id=mlb Oh, and have we posted this yet?- from yesterday, Lincecum voted NL Cy Young winner:http://www.sportsline.com/mlb/story/11098522 Link to post Share on other sites
CrushOfVeils80 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 I dont think its much more complicated at all but agree to disagree, there is a reason some teams seem to always draft well and some dont, As a Ranger fan Im use to not drafting well and as a Red Sock fan you are use to drafting well...at least lately I'm hoping for Josh Hamilton for AL MVP but it will probably be Pedroia NL MVP is a tough call, maybe Ryan Bruan, heck CC deserves some love....Ryan Howard probably gets it though Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted November 12, 2008 Author Share Posted November 12, 2008 I dont think its much more complicated at all but agree to disagree, there is a reason some teams seem to always draft well and some dont, As a Ranger fan Im use to not drafting well and as a Red Sock fan you are use to drafting well...at least latelyThe Red Sox are notorious for cultivating players deep into their system and hanging on to them through to the top. Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Albert Pujols should win the NL MVP. Not sure who will win in the AL. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 The Red Sox draft well because they have a tendency to draft college players over high school players. Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 those are his career numbers yes but what are they in October and with the Yankees?A helluva lot lower. A-Rod's kind of a joke now in NY. He'll probably show up at spring training spouting all that Kabbalah nonsense he's getting from Madonna. Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Lincecum is a beast, I cant believe he got passed on by as many teams as he did in the 2006 draft, he flat dominated the Pac 10, he had 14.29 K's per 9 innings his last year at the U of Washington, he is small yes but he has an amazing arm, Im sure teams like the Reds, Rockies, Royals, Tigers, and Dodgers sure would love to have him right now, drafting baseball players is not rocket scienceIt's cause he's five foot nothin, a hundred and nothin. Link to post Share on other sites
CrushOfVeils80 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Im a HUGE college baseball fan so I really do think drafting college players is the way to go, sure there are a few guys here and then that are cant miss prospects who are HS kids (Griffey JR, Chipper Jones, and Joe Mauer come to mind) but if you are drafting a guy from the SEC, Pac 10, Big 12, or ACC they have played very good competition for a few years and I'd much rather have a guy who is 21 and is a year or two away from the show then a guy who is 18 and might need four or five years in the minors, especially drafting in the first round I have always thought you should draft someone in the fiorst round you can see with your big club in two years....the Rays had the 1st pick this year and took Tim Bechman (a HS kid) and hopefully they wont regret not taking Pedro Alvarez, Buster Posey, or Gordon Beckham Link to post Share on other sites
CrushOfVeils80 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 It's cause he's five foot nothin, a hundred and nothin. and those guys do breakdown sometimes but look at Pedro Martinez, sure he had injury problems but he is similar size and put together a HOF career, there are a lot of guys who flame out who are 6'5 225 as well (Mark Prior) Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 Well, Mark Prior's a pussy, so he doesn't really count. Link to post Share on other sites
CrushOfVeils80 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 cant say I disagree there but he has had some bad luck which happens, Dusty Baker had a hand in ruining his arm as well, also his college coaches had him throw way too much Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 cant say I disagree there, Dusty Baker had a hand in ruining his arm as well, also his college coaches had him throw way too muchmostly, though, he's a pussy. Link to post Share on other sites
CrushOfVeils80 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 haha not a Mark Prior fan I take it? Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted November 12, 2008 Share Posted November 12, 2008 prior had a violent arm motion. Lincecum looks funky, but he puts less stress on his arm because of his huge stride. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted November 13, 2008 Share Posted November 13, 2008 Anyone else find it weird that both of the big names being talked in trades (Holliday, Peavy) are both pretty much entirely a product of the parks they play in? Holliday is an .800 OPS hitter away from Coors, and Peavy has a 3.8 ERA away from Petco. I can garauntee the teams that get each of them will "underperform" expectations next year because of both of them. Link to post Share on other sites
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