New Springsteen Jan 27th

[John Smith]

This is probably already old news but not to me...

 

Date set for new Bruce Springsteen CD

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November 17, 2008

 

FROM BILLBOARD

Bruce Springsteen and the E Street Band

[bobbob1313]

[remphish1]

YAY!

[LouisvilleGreg]

He is on some kind of prolific run these days. I need to start saving for tour dates now!

[lost highway]

It sounds like he has recreated the fresh, live kind of vibe that fed into the last albums writing. Good thing in my book, he's on a better roll right now than he's been on since I was three years old.

[Vacant Horizon]

It sounds like he has recreated the fresh, live kind of vibe that fed into the last albums writing. Good thing in my book, he's on a better roll right now than he's been on since I was three years old.

 

 

i just hope it has more of a live sound than the last few records. brenden obrien tends to overproduce. magic had so great songs on it that went past production, but most of it sounded like it was playing from a tin can 5 miles away.

[imsjry]

i just hope it has more of a live sound than the last few records. brenden obrien tends to overproduce. magic had so great songs on it that went past production, but most of it sounded like it was playing from a tin can 5 miles away.

 

That guy has ruined the last 3 Bruce discs (Rising, D&D, Magic). His production is just terrible. The instuments have no separation at all. It all just sounds like a mess. Does Bruce listen to these when they are finished? How can any musician possibly like how they sound?

 

Listen to Further on up the Road from D&D. It's so bad it actually gives me a headache after a minute.

[solace]

Let's hope this is more like The Rising than Magic.

[solace]

That guy has ruined the last 3 Bruce discs (Rising, D&D, Magic). His production is just terrible. The instuments have no separation at all. It all just sounds like a mess. Does Bruce listen to these when they are finished? How can any musician possibly like how they sound?

 

Listen to Further on up the Road from D&D. It's so bad it actually gives me a headache after a minute.

 

personal preference.

 

i worked in a studio for quite a while myself, trust me, Brendan knows what he's doing and Bruce wouldn't let him do it if he didn't agree or want it that way himself, so put a good chunk of your blame on Bruce himself then.

 

while i don't like his production on Magic, and D&D is just a boring album despite production, his production on The Rising is just fine for me. not to mention Brendan's great production on Pearl Jam's 4 best albums and his work w/ Rage, Matthew Sweet, and many other acts. Do you have complaints about his production on other artists work, or just Bruce?

 

and for complaints regarding instrument separation, those complaints would be directed towards who mixed the record, not really the producer (i don't know who mixed those 3 records, i'm sure you could google it)

[Golden Smoghead]

I disagree wholeheartedly with these posts criticizing The Rising, D&D and Magic! Best Boss albums since BITUSA imo.

 

I love the shit out of D&D in particular, I think Maria's Bed is one of the coolest tracks in the last 10 years.

 

although should caveat, I think I run a little more Americana-y than the rest of this board these days. (E.g., I think Arcade Fire should all be drowned in a tepid bath, and that the Smithsonian / Folkways is pretty much the best label of all time.)

[CortezTheKiller]

Let's hope this is more like The Rising than Magic.

[solace]

 

other than Tom Joad, it's his best post '80's record for me, and his best all around rock record since BITUSA. which maybe says more about his late 80's output than anything (i really enjoy Tunnel of Love for what it is, but The Rising rocks harder)

[mjpuczko]

i should listen to the rising again. i really enjoyed a few tracks on there & couldn't stand some but who knows now. magic was teh same actually.

[CortezTheKiller]

other than Tom Joad, it's his best post '80's record for me, and his best all around rock record since BITUSA. which maybe says more about his late 80's output than anything (i really enjoy Tunnel of Love for what it is, but The Rising rocks harder)

I think The Rising is very good too. I just happen to be of the opinion that Magic is excellent. Everyone loves to shit on the production of Bruce's albums. I'm not an engineer. I couldn't tell you a fucking thing about how to mix a record. I know I listen to a lot of music on a variety of mediums, and I have no issue with the production on Magic. It's one of my favorite Springsteen albums of all time, and the 2nd half of it (I'll Work For Your Love - Terry's Song) is in a class of its own. All the albums you list above solace I enjoy as well - BITUSA included.

[Vacant Horizon]

I think The Rising is very good too. I just happen to be of the opinion that Magic is excellent. Everyone loves to shit on the production of Bruce's albums. I'm not an engineer. I couldn't tell you a fucking thing about how to mix a record. I know I listen to a lot of music on a variety of mediums, and I have no issue with the production on Magic. It's one of my favorite Springsteen albums of all time, and the 2nd half of it (I'll Work For Your Love - Terry's Song) is in a class of its own. All the albums you list above solace I enjoy as well - BITUSA included.

 

 

mixing/mastering may be an issue with rising-magic, however, production is also an issue. terry's song was done by bruce by himself in jersey from what i understand and was not beholden to obrien. it sounds so much more immediate. so that begs the question, how much control do producers have on bruce and other artists? i think that a lot of artists have no idea about production and sound. i have met several artists who didn't have a clue about production/mixing etc. and had no idea why their albums sounded like shit! (in some cases, they didn't even have a clue that their album sounded like shit) it's crazy. like all the big artists, bruce's albums sound like the times in which they were produced. i just wish he would take the route neil young and dylan have taken in the last decade with less is more and no production sheen. it's ironic that rick ruben has become some big go-to guy because he really doesn't do shit. he forces the artist to just play and sing their song with no extras and these albums are hailed by critics.

[you ever seen a ghost?]

>although should caveat, I think I run a little more Americana-y than the rest of this board these days.

 

get with the times old man. i'm 26 and i love the old stuff (even older than Folkways): Skip James, Dock Boggs, Blind Willie McTell, Charley Patton, Robert Johnson, American Anthology of Folk, Goodbye Babylon, etc., but the simple fact is that there is a LOT of envelope,pushing forward-looking music coming out these days and it simply isn't getting radio play outside of XM and college radio. re: Arcade Fire, i love a good deal of indie music and i've listened to all of their stuff, but it has never done anything for me either. it's not particularly bad, but not really striking either.

 

-justin

[outoftune]

and for complaints regarding instrument separation, those complaints would be directed towards who mixed the record, not really the producer (i don't know who mixed those 3 records, i'm sure you could google it)

 

 

O'brien mixed and produced the last three Bruce albums. He also has mixed and produced the upcoming album.

[bobbob1313]

I love the Rising. A couple of bad songs, but the good songs are incredible.

[DrNo]

Neon Bible is the best Springsteen record since Darkness on the Edge of Town.

[solace]

O'brien mixed and produced the last three Bruce albums. He also has mixed and produced the upcoming album.

 

fair enough, like i said, i didn't know off the top of my head who did the final mix on the last 3, so then yeah, if someone takes issue w/ the instrument separation, then he is at fault in those cases, just wanted to point out that isn't really the role of the producer

 

production sound & technique are definitely very much personal preference as i pointed out though. like, Nigel Godrich is a well respected producer, but other than a few things he's done, i think he's one of the most overrated producers around.

 

meanwhile, my favorite producer of the last 10-15 years is J. Robbins

 

Neon Bible is the best Springsteen record since Darkness on the Edge of Town.

 

 

i thought it was funny that the dude above who says he only really listens to Americana, singled out Arcade Fire . apparently he didn't hear Neon Bible.

[Golden Smoghead]

i thought it was funny that the dude above who says he only really listens to Americana, singled out Arcade Fire . apparently he didn't hear Neon Bible.

 

So because I don't think Arcade Fire is Americana I didn't give it a chance? OK.

 

I can inform you that I have given Neon Bible a shot (not as much as Funeral though) and YET do not enjoy it at all, nor think of it as the category in my head labeled "Americana." Shocking, I know!

 

I'll admit I may be misusing the term Americana though. I use it to mean more like American-folk-associated-roots-rock, or something. AF to me is nothing like that at all, but again apologize if I'm abusing a term.

 

...... and, I apologize for suggesting they should be drowned. I just thoroughly dislike their music, same way some people will thoroughly dislike bands and albums I enjoy.

 

Kind of like Devils and Dust! Hey, it comes full circle. I don't like your favorite music, you don't like mine, agree to disagree.

[Tanner]

personal preference.

 

i worked in a studio for quite a while myself, trust me, Brendan knows what he's doing and Bruce wouldn't let him do it if he didn't agree or want it that way himself, so put a good chunk of your blame on Bruce himself then.

 

while i don't like his production on Magic, and D&D is just a boring album despite production, his production on The Rising is just fine for me. not to mention Brendan's great production on Pearl Jam's 4 best albums and his work w/ Rage, Matthew Sweet, and many other acts. Do you have complaints about his production on other artists work, or just Bruce?

 

and for complaints regarding instrument separation, those complaints would be directed towards who mixed the record, not really the producer (i don't know who mixed those 3 records, i'm sure you could google it)

 

Did you work at the Terrarium by chance? We just mastered at Magneto. Good folks there.

 

Regarding the new album, I think he showed brendan o'brien his the songs during Magic sessions and they decided to keep recording during breaks in the tour.

[solace]

Did you work at the Terrarium by chance? We just mastered at Magneto. Good folks there.

 

nah, i wish! that place kicks ass

 

So because I don't think Arcade Fire is Americana I didn't give it a chance? OK.

 

I can inform you that I have given Neon Bible a shot (not as much as Funeral though) and YET do not enjoy it at all, nor think of it as the category in my head labeled "Americana." Shocking, I know!

 

I'll admit I may be misusing the term Americana though. I use it to mean more like American-folk-associated-roots-rock, or something. AF to me is nothing like that at all, but again apologize if I'm abusing a term.

 

...... and, I apologize for suggesting they should be drowned. I just thoroughly dislike their music, same way some people will thoroughly dislike bands and albums I enjoy.

 

Kind of like Devils and Dust! Hey, it comes full circle. I don't like your favorite music, you don't like mine, agree to disagree.

oh i wasn't ripping on ya, just that Neon Bible is a very modern and updated Americana-influenced record that got a ton of Bruce comparisons

[howdjadoo]

Springsteen new single "Working On A Dream", Streamed

 

http://www.q1043.com/pages/news/brucespringsteen/

[Party @ the Moontower]

Go HERE on Bruce's MySpace page starting at midnight (EST) tonight to hear the new single "Working On A Dream".