Tweedling Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Please let me know, is THIS the change he was talking about? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 More like standard operating procedure, or sauce for the gander. Why should Obama be nice to the GOP, especially after the ones in the House were dicks to his stimulus package? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 10, 2009 Author Share Posted February 10, 2009 Looks like he is about to break it down on TV. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 More like standard operating procedure, or sauce for the gander. Why should Obama be nice to the GOP, especially after the ones in the House were dicks to his stimulus package?A. When our government prepares to spend a $1,000,000,000,000 of our kids' and grandkids' money, I sure hope there are some "dicks" to ask some hard questions and maybe even vote their conscience. The Republican leadership in the House demonstrated nothing but admiration for Obama coming to meet with them prior to the vote even if he didn't convince them.B. I'm pretty sure a number of voters (including me) voted for Obama in the genuine belief that he would attempt to change the tone in Washington. Three weeks in, and I'm losing "hope". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bleedorange Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 He's turning out to be more dangerous and worse than I even feared. Every job he wants to create is a government, public sector job. The health care aspects of the "stimulus" bill are downright scary. And it appears now, more than ever, he is in way over his head. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 You guys didn't get the memo about Keynesian economics being right either, it appears.Look, we tried it eight years the GOP way and now we're up fucked river. Time for a new approach, I say. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 There is a guy in a listserve type group I'm in that had mentioned it and I asked for a link or verification as to the rumor and he hadn't got back to me so I threw it out over here. It's the only mention I had heard of it myself and the guy, albeit a staunch right-winger, is a very intelligent guy imo. Strange. John Kass, of the Chicago Tribune, wrote a bit about LaHood in one of his columns. http://www.chicagotribune.com/news/columni...,4983113.column Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ikol Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 You guys didn't get the memo about Keynesian economics being right either, it appears.Look, we tried it eight years the GOP way and now we're up fucked river. Time for a new approach, I say. A new approach sounds good. I guess that means we should try something besides sharp increases in government spending and running up huge deficits (i.e. the GOP way). For someone so averse to Atlas Shrugged, you seem to favor making it a reality. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tugmoose Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Ya gotta love the balls on this Cheney. Does anyone buy that the Bush administration would have kept under wraps any info about successfully thwarted attacks? Classified, shashified, it would have been leaked. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 A new approach sounds good. I guess that means we should try something besides sharp increases in government spending and running up huge deficits (i.e. the GOP way). For someone so averse to Atlas Shrugged, you seem to favor making it a reality.What's the alternative? Pull a Hoover and start telling people prosperity is just around the corner? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ikol Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 What's the alternative? Pull a Hoover and start telling people prosperity is just around the corner? Well, Hoover actually did a lot of the same stuff FDR did, just to a lesser extent. But that aside, one alternative would be not to bail out failing companies. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beltmann Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 He's turning out to be more dangerous and worse than I even feared.Now you know what my last 8 years have been like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Tweedling Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 More like standard operating procedure, or sauce for the gander. Why should Obama be nice to the GOP, especially after the ones in the House were dicks to his stimulus package?Change we can believe in. What is it set to "stimulate"? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Change we can believe in. Obama can't force anyone else to follow his lead. He made a genuine effort to reach out to the other side and they basically told him to fuck himself. How is that his fault? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Change we can believe in. What is it set to "stimulate"?"The economy, ... " Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Obama can't force anyone else to follow his lead. He made a genuine effort to reach out to the other side and they basically told him to fuck himself. How is that his fault?Exactly. Barack is trying to change the tone in DC. He's trying to be bipartisan, but these silly fucks on the opposing side just can't let go - Ronnie's dead, guys...it's time to move on. Reagan's philosophy has been in place for over 25 years and it ran us right off the road. Will Bunch has a new book out - "Tear Down This Myth". Should be required reading for everyone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ikol Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Obama can't force anyone else to follow his lead. He made a genuine effort to reach out to the other side and they basically told him to fuck himself. How is that his fault? So not blindly accepting $1,000,000,000,000 in government spending is telling him to fuck himself? In what way is he reaching out to the other side? What compromises is he willing to make? Exactly. Barack is trying to change the tone in DC. He's trying to be bipartisan, but these silly fucks on the opposing side just can't let go - Ronnie's dead, guys...it's time to move on. Reagan's philosophy has been in place for over 25 years and it ran us right off the road. Will Bunch has a new book out - "Tear Down This Myth". Should be required reading for everyone. Reagan's philosophy was barely in place for the 8 years that he was President, much less for the past 25 years. Say what you will about the Bushes, but they were no Reagan. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moss Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Exactly. Barack is trying to change the tone in DC. He's trying to be bipartisan, but these silly fucks on the opposing side just can't let go - Ronnie's dead, guys...it's time to move on. Reagan's philosophy has been in place for over 25 years and it ran us right off the road. Will Bunch has a new book out - "Tear Down This Myth". Should be required reading for everyone. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Please correct me if I am wrong on this but was there outrage expressed on thsi site about the dear leaders trillion dollars he rammed through congress before the election? I was against it int he form it was presented (i.e. no accountability which we are seeing the effects of now with $350 billion spent and 78 billion overpaid no records as to where the money went how it was used etc... so much for fiscal responsibility. It's all politics and has little or nothing to do with the actual results. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bleedorange Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Please correct me if I am wrong on this but was there outrage expressed on thsi site about the dear leaders trillion dollars he rammed through congress before the election? I was against it int he form it was presented (i.e. no accountability which we are seeing the effects of now with $350 billion spent and 78 billion overpaid no records as to where the money went how it was used etc... so much for fiscal responsibility. It's all politics and has little or nothing to do with the actual results. I think I can decipher this post enough to say (for about the 47th time), no I did not like Bush. I especially did not like Bush's economic policies. I did not like the stimulus bill that passed before the election. I think this one right now is even worse than that one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Actually there was quite a bit of discussion on this board regarding the first bailout. Much of it negative in response. Don Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 I think I can decipher this post enough to say (for about the 47th time), no I did not like Bush. I especially did not like Bush's economic policies. I did not like the stimulus bill that passed before the election. I think this one right now is even worse than that one. Never mind Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmacomber68w Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Watching the Obama FT. Myers, FL town hall meeting, the last person to give a question will become an internet phenomenon Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ZenLunatic Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 New stimulis is bad and so is the new Bank Rescue Plan. Stock market is showing it. We have no real plans that is viable. We are making things worse and piling mistake after mistake. Sorry but true, I just hope our govt wakes up sooner than later. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ZenLunatic Posted February 10, 2009 Share Posted February 10, 2009 Five Reasons the Markets Don't Like the Bank Bailout http://www.cnbc.com/id/29121916 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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