Moe_Syzlak Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 It's stupid (not to mention not funny), but I don't find it racist. I think, as previously stated it was in reference to the chimp incident and the idea of a billion chimps eventually writing the works of Shakespeare. However, the author should have realized that 1) most people (not to mention NY Post readers) associate bills with the President's signature, not the Congressional authorship; and 2) when perceived as a reference to a black person, "monkey" will automatically illicit a reaction that the statement is racist (for better or for worse). Look at the Howard Cosell incident when he said "look at the little monkey run" when a black football player was streaking down the field. Was that racist? Probably not. But he was still raked over the coals for it. The cartoonist and the editor should have taken those two things into account and therefore it was stupid to print... even for the NY Post. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dude Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Was Grape Ape racist? I'm personally offended and I don't even own a bowtie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Grape Ape was exploited by The Man. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 In light of recent developments in the primate kingdom, perhaps it is now time to consider doing away with the entire species Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Apexploitation Cartoons Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 From what I understand, Quentin Tarantino, much like he did with the dead in the water John Travolta, has expressed an interest in reviving the career of Lancelot Link. Who, from what I also understand, is only now recovering from a 20-year drug fueled career filming and starring in monkey porn and life insurance advertisements. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Stupid mostly....with a touch of racism.... LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moe_Syzlak Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 It's such a fine line between stupid and clever. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 It's such a fine line between stupid and clever. Occam's razor...The simplest answer is usually the correct answer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 To be fair, they should be drawing cartoons of Obama as a monkey, since they did it a lot to the last president. In a world without racism, all our presidents would be drawn as apes without consequence! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
stooka Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 file under - How to save a newspaper business! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted February 19, 2009 Share Posted February 19, 2009 To be fair, they should be drawing cartoons of Obama as a monkey, since they did it a lot to the last president. In a world without racism, all our presidents would be drawn as apes without consequence! Racism vs. Rudeness Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 The major difference being that throughout time ares have been associated with blacks in racist terms and with white people in terms of intelligence? One is more targeted and one more blanket like, pick your poison. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 The major difference being that throughout time ares have been associated with blacks in racist terms and with white people in terms of intelligence? One is more targeted and one more blanket like, pick your poison. Me...I personally prefer my chimps and/or monkeys riding dogs, wearing glasses or shooting guns. I don't think it is appropriate to be overly derogatory to any individual. Guess I am a bit sensitive about those kind of things. I guess one needs to be the victim of a stereotype to hate them applied in any fashion to any person. Not to equate the black/african american/colored people/negroes experience with being called monkeys for 500 years (note the use of historic ethnic group names there) with any personal attacks I have experienced based on birth location, ethnicity or other sundry factors, but they are hurtful nonetheless. My best advice...shrug it off and take one for the team. The bastards don't win unless you let them get to you. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gogo Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I was looking for some of the more typical old Punch cartoons depicting the Irish as apes, but this one doesn't just hint, it puts it right out there: I was thinking more along the lines of something like this one: This is interesting too, from Harper's Weekly: Basically trying to show that the Irish and the Negro are more closely related to each other than they are to the "Anglo-Teutonic". So yeah, I'd say it's racist. But it's probably more stupid than it is racist. A hundred years from now, hopefully we'll look at something like that the way we look at the Punch cartoons now. Just a quaint reminder of the idiocy everyone took for granted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 New Yorkers to boycott NY Post over "racist" cartoon By Edith Honan Edith Honan Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tugmoose Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Of course, W was always treated with the utmost respect: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I may be contradicted, but the NY Post never went after Bush that hard, as it is the Hannity/Limbaugh of tabloids. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 called for the jailing of Rupert Murdoch Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Rather than focus on the disastrous social fallout generated by a fucking cartoon, I sure as shit wish Al Sharpton would focus his considerable talents and energies on the myriad, much more serious, aka - real, issues that don Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Rather than focus on the disastrous social fallout generated by a fucking cartoon, I sure as shit wish Al Sharpton would focus his considerable talents and energies on the myriad, much more serious, aka - real, issues that don Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I sure wouldn't hold your breath waiting on this happening On some levels, I like the guy. He Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 So wha't the consensus on this, am I supposed to be outraged or what? Olberman said I should be pissed about this display of racism but I'm waiting for the board to speak. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 So wha't the consensus on this, am I supposed to be outraged or what? Olberman said I should be pissed about this display of racism but I'm waiting for the board to speak. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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