Gregory Kollins Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 I want Jeff Tweedy to listen to this song of mine. He's been in the game for forever and two-thirds, and my stuff could probably use some work (though it is pretty spectacular). So partially I want him to spend 2 minutes and 15 seconds listening because I want his advice as I'm sure he has a very acute feel for what should go where. I also just want him to listen to it. Can any of you point me in the right direction for contacting him? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
c0ldr0ses Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 LOL! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 I wouldn't get your hopes up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thejokeexplained Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 you should post a link to your song here and as soon as Tweedy sees the subject title while he is lurking i'm sure he will be all ears. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Al.Ducts Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Whew... Don't want to come down on you too hard but if you'll kindly check the VC Rules & Regulations: Forum Etiquette: "Threads and posts which request personal and private information about the band (Does anyone know the address of Wilco's recording studio?) are in very poor taste and are tacky and stalker-ish. Don't."  I guess your not really asking for specific info but... come on.   EDIT: Didn't read your through your post well enough. Please disregard this haha. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Whew... Don't want to come down on you too hard but if you'll kindly check the VC Rules & Regulations: Forum Etiquette: "Threads and posts which request personal and private information about the band (Does anyone know the address of Wilco's recording studio?) are in very poor taste and are tacky and stalker-ish. Don't."  I guess your not really asking for specific info but... come on.   Oh, I don't know that that's appropriate. This is no different than wanting to send a fan letter to Marica Brady.  Wilco's website should have information for where you can send a CD of what you want Jeff to hear. Whether Jeff will listen to it isn't really up to you or any of us, but I trust that your success is likely not contingent upon Jeff hearing your song. Additionally, the band does visit the board occassionally. Post your tune in the Someone Else's Song forum, and it will be available for any and all to hear; the board seems to be a good place for constructive criticism of that sort. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Runaway Jim Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Why don't you just call him? He can be reached at 312-867-5309. Ask for Jenny, his personal assistant. She'll get you in touch with him. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
thejokeexplained Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Why don't you just call him? He can be reached at 312-867-5309. Ask for Jenny, his personal assistant. She'll get you in touch with him. come on now runaway Jim your showing your age here... Tommy Tutone is a bit old school for this board don't you think? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Al.Ducts Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Oh, I don't know that that's appropriate. This is no different than wanting to send a fan letter to Marica Brady.  Wilco's website should have information for where you can send a CD of what you want Jeff to hear. Whether Jeff will listen to it isn't really up to you or any of us, but I trust that your success is likely not contingent upon Jeff hearing your song. Additionally, the band does visit the board occassionally. Post your tune in the Someone Else's Song forum, and it will be available for any and all to hear; the board seems to be a good place for constructive criticism of that sort. I suppose your right. I jumped the gun a bit after not reading through his post thoroughly. Long day at work... In any case, hope you have luck in getting your album heard! And I would like to talk to Jeff Tweedy too Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gregory Kollins Posted August 24, 2009 Author Share Posted August 24, 2009 I'm actually not quite sure whether or not to take that last post ("Why don't you just call him...") seriously, based on the thread thus far... I don't really want to post my song for anyone to stream or download, because this isn't just some two-bit crap recorded on a a dictaphone, it isn't copyrighted, and it could be stolen. I appreciate the suggestion though, and I'm sure there are plenty of people on here who could give me good production tips. This is just one of those things though. I thought, "Hey, I want Jeff Tweedy to hear this..." and decided to try and follow through with it. I think I may have a way, now. I know somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody... approximately, and I don't think any of them would have a problem just passing on a CD. Or, maybe I'll just send a disc once it's all produced and nicely packaged. It would be humorous if Jeff Tweedy stalked this forum though. I would, if people talked this way about me...  ...  ... Jeff? Is that you? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
caliber66 Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Jeff does actually post here occasionally. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shakespeare In The Alley Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 I'm actually not quite sure whether or not to take that last post ("Why don't you just call him...") seriously, based on the thread thus far... I don't really want to post my song for anyone to stream or download, because this isn't just some two-bit crap recorded on a a dictaphone, it isn't copyrighted, and it could be stolen. I appreciate the suggestion though, and I'm sure there are plenty of people on here who could give me good production tips. This is just one of those things though. I thought, "Hey, I want Jeff Tweedy to hear this..." and decided to try and follow through with it. I think I may have a way, now. I know somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody... approximately, and I don't think any of them would have a problem just passing on a CD. Or, maybe I'll just send a disc once it's all produced and nicely packaged. It would be humorous if Jeff Tweedy stalked this forum though. I would, if people talked this way about me...  ...  ... Jeff? Is that you?It's good advice to never take a post seriously if it points you towards a phone number ending in 867-5309. Just...don't. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dunnright00 Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 I'm actually not quite sure whether or not to take that last post ("Why don't you just call him...") seriously, based on the thread thus far... I don't really want to post my song for anyone to stream or download, because this isn't just some two-bit crap recorded on a a dictaphone, it isn't copyrighted, and it could be stolen. I appreciate the suggestion though, and I'm sure there are plenty of people on here who could give me good production tips. This is just one of those things though. I thought, "Hey, I want Jeff Tweedy to hear this..." and decided to try and follow through with it. I think I may have a way, now. I know somebody who knows somebody who knows somebody... approximately, and I don't think any of them would have a problem just passing on a CD. Or, maybe I'll just send a disc once it's all produced and nicely packaged. It would be humorous if Jeff Tweedy stalked this forum though. I would, if people talked this way about me...  ...  ... Jeff? Is that you? Well, the only way for your song to get heard is for it to, you know... be heard!  Don't worry so much about it being stolen(although I hear it is quite spectacular), just put it out there and see what happens. After all, if the whole world's singing your song, what was yours is everyone's from now on. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Speed Racer Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 I don't really want to post my song for anyone to stream or download, because this isn't just some two-bit crap recorded on a a dictaphone, it isn't copyrighted, and it could be stolen. I think you're simultaneously stepping on the toes of a few dozen very accomplished musicians on this board and overstating the draw of your music. No harm meant by that statement, but consider yourself in a room full of people with the lights off - don't go talking up your outfit until you know what everyone else is wearing. Again, no offense meant, but the board is filled with a number of professional musicians. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gregory Kollins Posted August 24, 2009 Author Share Posted August 24, 2009 Well, the only way for your song to get heard is for it to, you know... be heard!  Don't worry so much about it being stolen(although I hear it is quite spectacular), just put it out there and see what happens. After all, if the whole world's singing your song, what was yours is everyone's from now on.  Haha, true, true. Good advice. And to be clear - what I mean by STOLEN is, someone else taking the song and claiming it as something they wrote, NOT people downloading it and burning it on CD's for their friends and putting it on their Ipods and listening to it on the way to work. I would kiss people's feet for doing that. I (really me plus a collaborator, so I'm going to start saying "us") don't have a name yet, no other work to back up our claim to ownership, so... We're cautious until we get things copyrighted. I think you're simultaneously stepping on the toes of a few dozen very accomplished musicians on this board and overstating the draw of your music. No harm meant by that statement, but consider yourself in a room full of people with the lights off - don't go talking up your outfit until you know what everyone else is wearing. Again, no offense meant, but the board is filled with a number of professional musicians. I meant to emphasize that I am not... a crazed fan who wants to send their latest diddly to their idol. I have SOME personal investment in it. I apologize sincerely if I offended anybody with that statement. But in any case, thanks for all of your help, and I may be back to post the music once it's a bit more protected. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmacomber68w Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Jeff does actually post here occasionally. Jeff is secretly Analogman... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Copyright is automatic. As soon as you create something original and substantial, it is copyrighted by you. It's different than the patent and trademark system. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Jeff is secretly Analogman...Funny, but not true. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jmacomber68w Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Funny, but not true. What is funny is that for, Id say my first year on VC I thought it was "Analman" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 I don't really want to post my song for anyone to stream or download, because this isn't just some two-bit crap recorded on a a dictaphone, it isn't copyrighted, and it could be stolen. Â I think you may have missed the current nature of independent music. If anyone cares enough about your music to steal it than you've already done something awesome. Some people work for years making great stuff and can't even get anyone to steal it, let alone listen all the way through on myspace. If someone stole your song that would be sweet, that is an achievement. Â Also I think Jeff Tweedy might tell you that it doesn't matter what JT says about your songs. You shouldn't worry about what he would say, think of what Gregory Kollins has to say about your songs. That is how JT got good at being him. This is the fundamental task presented to every artist: figure out what you do well, and what interests you, then try and do it better. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Dude Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 Copyright is automatic. As soon as you create something original and substantial, it is copyrighted by you. It's different than the patent and trademark system. As true as that is, paying a modest $35 to the US Copyright office ( http://www.copyright.gov/register/ ) is something I would highly recommend for establishing a creation date for the work - otherwise you will be scrambling to prove you were the first one to come up with an idea. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gregory Kollins Posted August 24, 2009 Author Share Posted August 24, 2009 I think you may have missed the current nature of independent music. If anyone cares enough about your music to steal it than you've already done something awesome. Some people work for years making great stuff and can't even get anyone to steal it, let alone listen all the way through on myspace. If someone stole your song that would be sweet, that is an achievement.  Also I think Jeff Tweedy might tell you that it doesn't matter what JT says about your songs. You shouldn't worry about what he would say, think of what Gregory Kollins has to say about your songs. That is how JT got good at being him. This is the fundamental task presented to every artist: figure out what you do well, and what interests you, then try and do it better. Ha well, it would be an achievement... I suppose...And it's not that I need to know what Jeff Tweedy thinks about my music... I just kinda want him to listen to it.  And as for automatic copyright, it wouldn't quite be an open-shut case for me to prove ownership. I have not registered the song with the U.S. Copyright Office. I self recorded and produced it (I promise it wasn't on a dictaphone though), so there would be no record of recording it in a studio, no engineer-witness. I guess I could call witnesses from our shows... and I suppose it could be proved that it is our voices on the recording. But that's a hairy mess that I don't feel like getting into, the whole court case thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
GtrPlyr Posted August 24, 2009 Share Posted August 24, 2009 my stuff could probably use some work (though it is pretty spectacular).I find that most musicians are good at honestly assessing their own work . Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Gregory Kollins Posted August 25, 2009 Author Share Posted August 25, 2009 I find that most musicians are good at honestly assessing their own work . Yep, I try real hard to be a modest fellow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jimthedrummer Posted August 25, 2009 Share Posted August 25, 2009 I am LOVING this thread... great fun. What I do for "poor man's copyright" is e-mail the first, rawest demo of a song via hotmail attachment with lyrics and copyright claim as the text. Fully timestamped on a server of public record. Then I forward that e-mail, already sent to myself with timestamp intact, to a handful of friends, family, etc. I'm pretty sure that's a defendable copyright. Might be wrong, but so far so good! Jim Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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