Band Guarantees

[suites]

below is the breakdown of bands at the NY State Fair this yr and what they were getting paid

 

shows that you had to buy tickets for

Grandstand Performers: Guarantees:

Aerosmith $1,000,000

Jeff Dunham $200,000

Rihanna $410,000

Justin Bieber $250,000

Rush $450,000

Tim McGraw $500,000

Rascal Flats $602,500

Total: $3,412,500

 

shows that are free

Chevy Court Performers: Guarantees:

En Vogue $26,500

Kool and the Gang $53,000

Blue Oyster Cult $18,000

Kansas $35,000

Adam Richman $25,000

Styx $65,000

Trailer Choir $15,000

Blues Traveler $15,000

Steve Lippia/CNY Jazz Orchestra $11,097

30 Seconds to Mars $75,000

Herman's Hermits $15,000

1964 $12,000

Mario Batali $71,500

Lady Antebellum $75,000

Eli Young Band $18,500

Justin Moore $12,500

Coheed & Cambria $40,000

Mitchel Musso $25,000

Robert Randolph & the Family Band $30,000

Katharine McPhee $22,500

Keith Sweat $35,000

Jackyl $15,000

Marc Broussard $22,500

Total: $733,097

[Ghost of Electricity]

Styx? I didn't know that they were still around. Boggles the mind.

[PopTodd]

Styx? I didn't know that they were still around. Boggles the mind.

 

Yup.

JY actually lives less than a mile from me. I see him around town quite a bit. Every now and then I'll see the tour bus parked in front of his place and know that the band is going back on tour.

 

Actually, they released a new album just a couple of years ago (that was actually supposed to be pretty good).

[cryptique]

How does Mario Batali command a higher appearance fee than Blue Oyster Cult? WTF?

[Analogman]

Styx? I didn't know that they were still around. Boggles the mind.

 

I think Tommy and J.Y. are the only dudes from the orignal band that are still in the band now. Just like Journey, Yes, etc., they found a guy who could sing their former front man, and decided to carry on with the show. Something new I have noticed lately - a lot of those bands are now doing shows together. So you end up getting a Kansas/Styx/whoever else show. I guess they do pretty well playing sheds, casinos, and whatnot.

[Guest Speed Racer]

How is 30 Seconds to Mars commanding a higher pay than Blues Traveler? Dudes need a new manager. And new songs and stuff.

[jff]

It's interesting that Aerosmith gets more than double what Rush gets. I've never seen an Aerosmith show, but I've seen Rush several times, and I'm fairly certain it costs more to put on a Rush show from a production standpoint.

 

Those bands probably have a similar drawing power. Rush definitely has a more die hard, never miss a show/follow them like the Dead fans.

 

I can see how Aerosmith would want more since they have more band members to pay, but other than that, I fail to understand the justification for $1,000,000 vs. $450,000 guarantees. I could maybe understand $650,000 vs $450,000. Are Dude Looks Like a Lady and their other late period hits really worth all that extra money?

 

How is 30 Seconds to Mars commanding a higher pay than Blues Traveler? Dudes need a new manager. And new songs and stuff.

 

Blues Traveler probably makes more by selling guns in the parking lot than they get from their performance fee.

[Guest Speed Racer]

It's interesting that Aerosmith gets more than double what Rush gets. I've never seen an Aerosmith show, but I've seen Rush several times, and I'm fairly certain it costs more to put on a Rush show from a production standpoint.

 

Those bands probably have a similar drawing power. Rush definitely has a more die hard, never miss a show/follow them like the Dead fans.

 

I can see how Aerosmith would want more since they have more band members to pay, but other than that, I fail to understand the justification for $1,000,000 vs. $450,000 guarantees. I could maybe understand $650,000 vs $450,000. Are Dude Looks Like a Lady and their other late period hits really worth all that extra money?

 

I really think those later hits are worth the difference. I'm 25, and I can't name a single Rush song. It was impossible to be my age, though, and either listen to the radio or watch MTV and not know the chorus to at least 3 Aerosmith songs. Rush focuses mainly on prog rock, no? Aerosmith dabbles in pop, rock and blues - all of which are, in my opinion, more accessible to the common man than prog rock. I'm not saying in any way that Aerosmith is somehow better than Rush, just that people who like music without too many synthesizers will likely resonate more with Aerosmith.

 

The other side of that coin is the celebrity status. Again, I don't know that I could pick out any member of Rush from a line-up, but any 25 year-old who watched MTV growing up can pick out Steven Tyler and Joe Perry.

 

Oh, and Aerosmith are still releasing music. Huh...so, apparently are Rush. Eh, see points 1 and 2.

 

ETA: Also - while Rush may or may not have more going on in their live show, I guarantee you Aerosmith's backstage overhead is significantly higher. By all reports, Steven Tyler basically has a harem of personal assistants to wipe his ass for him.

[moxiebean]

How does Mario Batali command a higher appearance fee than Blue Oyster Cult? WTF?

It's for all that red wine and spaghetti

[jff]

 

 

ETA: Also - while Rush may or may not have more going on in their live show, I guarantee you Aerosmith's backstage overhead is significantly higher. By all reports, Steven Tyler basically has a harem of personal assistants to wipe his ass for him.

 

Excellent point.

 

I think Aerosmith would be more appealing than Rush to the the people who attend state fairs. I don't mean that in any sort of judgmental way...just that Aerosmith indisputably appeals more to the general public, as does any band that has hits and videos featuring attractive young women.

 

Rush would probably be more likely to pull in folks who otherwise would not attend the state fair, and for that reason, I feel they would be justified in negotiating a higher guarantee than they're getting.

[u2roolz]

That's a lot of money being thrown around.

It must cost $20 per 10 balls to try and dunk Steven Tyler to give him a shower.

And $30 donation to cut Bieber's bangs. I think he's covering up some acne.

[Sweet Papa Crimbo]

I think Tommy and J.Y. are the only dudes from the orignal band that are still in the band now. Just like Journey, Yes, etc., they found a guy who could sing their former front man, and decided to carry on with the show. Something new I have noticed lately - a lot of those bands are now doing shows together. So you end up getting a Kansas/Styx/whoever else show. I guess they do pretty well playing sheds, casinos, and whatnot.

 

Technically and factually, Tommy isn't an original member

[Analogman]

Excellent point.

 

I think Aerosmith would be more appealing than Rush to the the people who attend state fairs. I don't mean that in any sort of judgmental way...just that Aerosmith indisputably appeals more to the general public, as does any band that has hits and videos featuring attractive young women.

 

Rush would probably be more likely to pull in folks who otherwise would not attend the state fair, and for that reason, I feel they would be justified in negotiating a higher guarantee than they're getting.

 

Aerosmith has not put out an album of entirely original songs since 2001.

 

I've read several articles about bands canceling shows due to low ticket sales. Rush is doing good, from what I have heard.

 

I think Aerosmith is like AC/DC or Kiss. They may release a new album, but at this point, people go to their shows to hear the hits.

 

I suppose they get that sort of money because they can.

[Analogman]

Technically and factually, Tommy isn't an original member

 

That's right. He joined them in 1976 I think. I'm not all that knowledgeable about those so-called "faceless mid-western bands." They are were all very big when I was in the 7th/8th grade, but I never really listened to them.

 

I think it is sort of funny that right now you can find more recent REO Speedwagon shows on Dime a Dozen, than recent Wilco shows.

[tinnitus photography]

How does Mario Batali command a higher appearance fee than Blue Oyster Cult? WTF?

 

that caught my eye immediately too. nuts.

 

it's also insane that the fair paid aerosmith a million.

[Moss]

 

it's also insane that the fair paid aerosmith a million.

 

Helps explain how they manage to keep it together through all the issues.

[Sweet Papa Crimbo]

that caught my eye immediately too. nuts.

 

it's also insane that the fair paid aerosmith a million.

 

Mario Batalli is liable to get twice the audience that Blue Oyster Cult will. He is a SUPERSTAR Chef...an Iron Chef.

[froggie]

below is the breakdown of bands at the NY State Fair this yr and what they were getting paid

 

Justin Bieber $250,000

 

 

 

that little fruitcake?... i heard a bang last week and thought it was him going through puberty

[Guest Speed Racer]

it's also insane that the fair paid aerosmith a million.

 

Aerosmith has a pretty rich history in NY, though. A lot of their early gigs were in rural areas around NY and MA, as well as NYC. While probably not a lot of people from those days are probably itching to see the shows, they still have a bit of a "local" edge to them. I can see why the NY State Fair would pony up for that.

[ih8music]

Mario Batalli is liable to get twice the audience that Blue Oyster Cult will. He is a SUPERSTAR Chef...an Iron Chef.

Yup. He's probably a bigger draw to the average person than all but the top headliners on that list.

 

Besides, he needs the cash - he has this place to pay off: http://www.huffingto...d_n_701020.html

[Ghost of Electricity]

I really think those later hits are worth the difference. I'm 25, and I can't name a single Rush song. It was impossible to be my age, though, and either listen to the radio or watch MTV and not know the chorus to at least 3 Aerosmith songs. Rush focuses mainly on prog rock, no? Aerosmith dabbles in pop, rock and blues - all of which are, in my opinion, more accessible to the common man than prog rock. I'm not saying in any way that Aerosmith is somehow better than Rush, just that people who like music without too many synthesizers will likely resonate more with Aerosmith.

 

The other side of that coin is the celebrity status. Again, I don't know that I could pick out any member of Rush from a line-up, but any 25 year-old who watched MTV growing up can pick out Steven Tyler and Joe Perry.

 

Oh, and Aerosmith are still releasing music. Huh...so, apparently are Rush. Eh, see points 1 and 2.

 

ETA: Also - while Rush may or may not have more going on in their live show, I guarantee you Aerosmith's backstage overhead is significantly higher. By all reports, Steven Tyler basically has a harem of personal assistants to wipe his ass for him.

 

I was always aware of Rush but never got into them. Then, last week on a transatlantic Air Canada (go figure) flight one of the in-flight movie options was a Rush documentary. They seemed like nice guys and a good degree less boneheaded than some of the people that were interviewed, such as Gene Simmons or Sebastian Bach, and I was surprised at some of the other people who were interviewed, like Billy Corgan. So I figured what the hell, and gave 2112 a listen. And sure, I would listen to it again.

 

Aerosmith, on the other hand, is just farcical.

[Kalle]

There's a website (I can't actually remember the name of it now, I'll find it) that you have to pay a yearly fee for but it compiles pretty much everyone's rates and you are able to see how much anyone's guarantee is. Wilco, Radiohead yadda yadda, they're all on there, it's pretty neat.

[Guest Speed Racer]

I was always aware of Rush but never got into them. Then, last week on a transatlantic Air Canada (go figure) flight one of the in-flight movie options was a Rush documentary. They seemed like nice guys and a good degree less boneheaded than some of the people that were interviewed, such as Gene Simmons or Sebastian Bach, and I was surprised at some of the other people who were interviewed, like Billy Corgan. So I figured what the hell, and gave 2112 a listen. And sure, I would listen to it again.

 

Aerosmith, on the other hand, is just farcical.

 

Just farcical to the tune of $1,000,000 per show. Again, it has nothing to do with how good they are, and clearly doesn't have anything to do with how serious they are about...whatever it is they aren't serious about that makes them farcical.

[Lammycat]

Herman's Hermits command the same amount as Blues Traveler. That's farcical. Aerosmith, being one of the best-selling (if not the best) U.S. bands ever, commanding a million bucks is probably spot on.

[tinnitus photography]

Herman's Hermits command the same amount as Blues Traveler. That's farcical. Aerosmith, being one of the best-selling (if not the best) U.S. bands ever, commanding a million bucks is probably spot on.

 

for one show? spot on? are you serious?

 

their best days are far behind them.