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This album seriously does get better with each listen, so Solace you're totally right.

 

It sort of demands repeated listening because there's so much going on musically that becomes really intriguing over time. I still can't handle the odd synth sound on the record, but you really have to hand it to Justin that he's been able to bring together all of these different sounds and create a record that is pretty unique.

 

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Lengthy - and I thought pretty good - article in today's New York Times Magazine.

 

Great article thanks for posting.

 

Interesting how we were just talking about how it's hard to understand his lyrics, and when you do understand them, they don't make much sense..

 

“You can place yourself inside his songs and his music, because he leaves space for you,” said the alt-country singer Kathleen Edwards, who is Vernon’s girlfriend. “I mean this respectfully, but most of the time I have no idea what Justin’s songs are about.”

“I’m not really asking you to hear what I’m saying too much,” he said, “because I would have spoken the words harder.”

 

“It was important for me to discard the storytelling aspect of it,” he said. “It’s such a weird thing: People sing sad songs and then they have to sing them all the time.” His solution was to create songs “so unspecific that I’m not actually going to use words that have specific meanings.” But that vagueness has the effect of inviting people in.

 

Very interesting.. And very inspiring for a songwriter like myself..

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This album seriously does get better with each listen, so Solace you're totally right.

 

It sort of demands repeated listening because there's so much going on musically that becomes really intriguing over time. I still can't handle the odd synth sound on the record, but you really have to hand it to Justin that he's been able to bring together all of these different sounds and create a record that is pretty unique.

 

Ye!

 

i currently am stuck on 5-8. beautiful songs.

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I started listening to it on NPR last night and I was hooked from the first chords. He manages the neat trick of sounding 'epic', without ever getting into Snowplay territory. It reminds me of Jim O'Rourke in places - albeit a 'mainstream' Jim O'Rourke. It's a totally beautiful album.

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Great article thanks for posting.

 

Interesting how we were just talking about how it's hard to understand his lyrics, and when you do understand them, they don't make much sense..

 

Very interesting.. And very inspiring for a songwriter like myself..

 

Check out Talking Heads - Remain in Light, or Kid A, whose lyrics were inspired by that.

 

I streamed it from NPR the other day and I think I'll be able to get into this one a lot more than Emma. I just can't make it through that whole album. On the new one his voice goes a lot deeper than he did on the first I think. I'm not too familiar with it, just 1 listen. I will probably pick it up when it comes out.

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Check out Talking Heads - Remain in Light, or Kid A, whose lyrics were inspired by that.

 

I streamed it from NPR the other day and I think I'll be able to get into this one a lot more than Emma. I just can't make it through that whole album. On the new one his voice goes a lot deeper than he did on the first I think. I'm not too familiar with it, just 1 listen. I will probably pick it up when it comes out.

 

amusingly enough... his falsetto is the new voice... his voice in Deyarmond Edison and previous bands is much deeper.

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2nd leg Midwest + West Coast dates:

 

09/07/11 Minneapolis, MN - Orpheum Theatre w/ Kathleen Edwards

09/08/11 Council Bluffs, IA - Stir Cove w/ Kathleen Edwards

09/09/11 Kansas City, MO - Uptown Theater w/ Kathleen Edwards

09/11/11 St. Louis, MO - The Pageant w/ Kathleen Edwards

09/12/11 Dallas, TX - Winspear Opera House w/ Kathleen Edwards

09/13/11 Austin, TX - The Long Center for the Performing Arts w/ Kathleen Edwards

09/15/11 Phoenix, AZ - Comerica Theatre w/ The Walkmen, Fleet Foxes

09/16/11 San Diego, CA - Spreckels Theatre w/ Other Lives

09/19/11 Los Angeles, CA - Shrine Auditorium w/ Other Lives

09/22/11 Berkeley, CA - Greek Theatre Berkeley w/ Other Lives

09/24/11 Troutdale, OR - Edgefield Ampitheater w/ Other Lives

09/25/11 Vancouver, BC - Orpheum Theatre w/ Other Lives

09/26/11 Seattle, WA - The Paramount Theatre w/ Other Lives

 

that show in Phoenix with Fleet Foxes + The Walkmen is going to be amazing. dang.

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It is the kind of record that is going to get reviews from the extreme ends of the spectrum, by reviewers trying to show they know what they are talking about. I love the album but it does seem a bit marmite.

 

mmmm marmite

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oh jeez. Derogatis' .5 stars out of 4 review is just ridiculous.

 

i'm not even gonna give him the dignity of linking to it.

 

i'm fine with differing opinions and all, but his "review" is just basically him saying that anyone who loves this album (or Bon Iver) are dumb. that and he singles out 2 of the albums best songs (Perth & Holocene) as being awful. at least Kot's 2.5 star review was well written/thought out.

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Ridiculous review. Especially in light of his praise for the hookless and tuneless Fleet Foxes album. I'm a little surprised that this album is garnering some backlash. I guess it's inevitable, though.

 

i've tried to listen to fleet floxes so many times. bores the hell out of me.

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The Fleet Foxes and Bon Iver records are my two favs this year I think.

 

That Derogatis is ridiculous though. I can see how some people could be put off by the record at first, I'm an example of it, but the tunes were there from the start and with each listen I've just loved it more and more.

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Ridiculous review. Especially in light of his praise for the hookless and tuneless Fleet Foxes album. I'm a little surprised that this album is garnering some backlash. I guess it's inevitable, though.

 

it is inevitable. the record is miles better than the Fleet Foxes record, though. the derogatis review doesn't really provide any kind of reason why he doesn't like it. it's just him bitching. whatever. the record is a major grower, but it gets there (for me, anyway...i've been listening to it non-stop for about two weeks now).

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the record is miles better than the Fleet Foxes record, though.

couldn't disagree more.

 

it took me until today to finally like the new Bon Iver after getting it and listening to it first on tues (and many, many, many times after) whereas the fleet foxes was more immediate for me (if we are to continue, for some reason, comparing these two bands).

 

where is the basis of this comparison? they are two indie bands with new lps out this year, but that is where the comparisons, in my mind, stop, so I don't get why some here are saying this album is better than that album or vice versa.

 

but whatever.

 

I'm leaving it as "I like the new album" (of both well-respected, sincere and hard-working bands).

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couldn't disagree more.

 

it took me until today to finally like the new Bon Iver after getting it and listening to it first on tues (and many, many, many times after) whereas the fleet foxes was more immediate for me (if we are to continue, for some reason, comparing these two bands).

 

where is the basis of this comparison? they are two indie bands with new lps out this year, but that is where the comparisons, in my mind, stop, so I don't get why some here are saying this album is better than that album or vice versa.

 

but whatever.

 

I'm leaving it as "I like the new album" (of both well-respected, sincere and hard-working bands).

 

Two highly-anticipated albums from artists coming off stellar debut albums, released within a few weeks of each other, and both incorporating similar styles (of course, there are obvious differences). I think the comparison is warranted. Especially since I found the Fleet Foxes album to be a supreme disappointment, and Bon Iver to be better than For Emma.

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