KevinG Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 "He tried. You tried. It's OK to make a change."This ad makes me chuckle. Never mentions Romney and is not near as nasty as campaign ads can get. Really this ad is another in the same line that Romney has been repeating over and over again. "Look at me I am not Obama!" That is his entire campaign. "I am not Obama." Does he have any substantive ideas? I really haven't heard or seen one yet. Link to post Share on other sites
bleedorange Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Really this ad is another in the same line that Romney has been repeating over and over again. "Look at me I am not Obama!" That is his entire campaign. "I am not Obama." Does he have any substantive ideas? I really haven't heard or seen one yet. If you're really interested, I would imagine his website has all of his substantive ideas. I'm not sure why you would rely solely on campaign ads for the kind of information you seek. Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted July 26, 2012 Share Posted July 26, 2012 Yeah, I looked through his site. It is full of disastrous folly with a most Bushesque tone. Link to post Share on other sites
Tweedling Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 On Obamas site you could win a trip to Chicago to celebrate his birthday!Both sites look similar. Although I feel like Romneys message is somewhat the same as Obamas was 4 years ago....He is NOT the incumbent. Meh Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Romney's statement on the UK and the Olympics... Wow. What on earth would compel him to say things like that. Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Whats the difference really. Each candidate is going to say stupid stuff because they have to talk non-stop and everyone says stupid stuff when they talk. It was a bad idea to go to London and say stupid shit, but so it goes. LouieB Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 I've been steering clear of the voter id debate here, but this is worth looking at: http://www.salon.com/2012/07/27/fla_republican_we_suppressed_black_votes/ Link to post Share on other sites
Tweedling Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Romney's statement on the UK and the Olympics... Wow. What on earth would compel him to say things like that.Aren't some of the English papers and tabloids saying the same thing? Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 But you don't go to our most reliable ally in the world the day before the Olympics opening ceremony and say they're not ready. Diplomacy means knowing how and when to state the truth. Link to post Share on other sites
gogo Posted July 27, 2012 Share Posted July 27, 2012 Politics aside, Mitt's statements in London make me think he sounds like kind of a dick. Yeah, he's supposed to know when NOT to say what he's thinking. That's diplomacy, but it's also kind of just good manners. Link to post Share on other sites
SarahC Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Politics aside, Mitt's statements in London make me think he sounds like kind of a dick. Yeah, he's supposed to know when NOT to say what he's thinking. That's diplomacy, but it's also kind of just good manners. Agreed. I will never understand how somebody in the middle class can support a Republican candidate. My family is middle-middle class, I think. I saw during the Clinton years, that my parent's jobs were doing really well, my dad had steady (union) work, and we didn't have to struggle. 2 years into the Bush administration my dad was laid off of his job, and was unemployed for the majority of the year. My family started to struggle. Personally, I've always seen the Democrats to be more supportive of the working person... and they seem to want what's best for the country, and not just the elite, which, is who I think Romney panders too. Maybe I don't know what I am talking about, but there you go. Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Agreed. I will never understand how somebody in the middle class can support a Republican candidate. My family is middle-middle class, I think. I saw during the Clinton years, that my parent's jobs were doing really well, my dad had steady (union) work, and we didn't have to struggle. 2 years into the Bush administration my dad was laid off of his job, and was unemployed for the majority of the year. My family started to struggle. Personally, I've always seen the Democrats to be more supportive of the working person... and they seem to want what's best for the country, and not just the elite, which, is who I think Romney panders too. Maybe I don't know what I am talking about, but there you go. The republicans have made a living on getting working people to vote against their interests. Link to post Share on other sites
IRememberDBoon Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Agreed. I will never understand how somebody in the middle class can support a Republican candidate. My family is middle-middle class, I think. I saw during the Clinton years, that my parent's jobs were doing really well, my dad had steady (union) work, and we didn't have to struggle. 2 years into the Bush administration my dad was laid off of his job, and was unemployed for the majority of the year. My family started to struggle. Personally, I've always seen the Democrats to be more supportive of the working person... and they seem to want what's best for the country, and not just the elite, which, is who I think Romney panders too. Maybe I don't know what I am talking about, but there you go. perfectly stated. you think Mitt Romney gives a sh*t about anyone struggling?? He sees that as a personal shortcoming. They should have had more of their fathers money Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 you think Mitt Romney gives a sh*t about anyone struggling?? He sees that as a personal shortcoming. They should have had more of their fathers moneyOnce again you demonstrate expertise at knowing what other people think. Link to post Share on other sites
lost highway Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Would it be better to just vote for Romney and avoid hypothesizing what he thinks? Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 IRDB doesn't hypothesize what other people think, he tells us based upon little evidence at best. In the past few pages of this thread he's done it to me, Jules, and now the presumptive Republican candidate. Mitt Romney's policies are clearly based upon the idea that if the rich pay less taxes and have more money they will help stimulate the economy. You certainly can argue that that's wrong and that it hurts the poor and creates bigger deficits. I would agree with much of that. But to say that Romney sees poverty or struggling as a sign of personal weakness is crazier than Obama seeing wealth as a personal shortcoming, which many right-wingers argue. Link to post Share on other sites
IRememberDBoon Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 "The poor are just fine" Mitt Romney Does that mean he thinks that? Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 "The poor are just fine" Mitt Romney Does that mean he thinks that? http://www.politico....0212/72297.html Well that's because he more worried about the middle class. Link to post Share on other sites
ih8music Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 "The poor are just fine" Mitt Romney Does that mean he thinks that? Jesus Christ, weren't we just complaining about how people took Obama's comments about small businesses out of context to completely misrepresent the point of what he was saying? Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted July 28, 2012 Share Posted July 28, 2012 Yes, and it goes both ways. Romney misspoke, Obama misspoke. Just like LouieB pointed out about Romney's Olympic foot in the mouth, this will happen 100s of times before the election. Link to post Share on other sites
Beltmann Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 Yes, and it goes both ways. Romney misspoke, Obama misspoke. Just like LouieB pointed out about Romney's Olympic foot in the mouth, this will happen 100s of times before the election.Precisely. It might be politically convenient for me to believe that Obama disregards the entrepreneurial spirit or that Romney disregards the plight of the poor, but do I really believe those things are true about either candidate? Of course not. Those things could only be true of cartoon characters, not the reality of these two men. Link to post Share on other sites
Tweedling Posted July 29, 2012 Share Posted July 29, 2012 The 3 previous posts give me hope. I like the discussion there. so true, so true.Carry on..... Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted July 30, 2012 Share Posted July 30, 2012 Yes, and it goes both ways. Romney misspoke, Obama misspoke. Just like LouieB pointed out about Romney's Olympic foot in the mouth, this will happen 100s of times before the election.I am particularly getting drug about the out of context stuff, which includes Mitt's comments about the poor being okay (clearly this is a simplification regarding the safety nets in place for the poor). If we add up the mis-spoken comments Mitt is going to rack up a ton of them. He is clearly less articulate than Barack, who did misspeak and was taken out of context on the small business quote. There is a constistant weirdness about Mitts misstatments though like Barack not understanidng the Anglo-Saxon heritage stuff. That is just plain weird and does have some significant racist overtones. And then there is going to Israel and acting like he is more of a friend to Israel even when his policy is identical to Obama's But to those Jews who think that Obama is anti-Israel because he isn't ready to support bombing Iran yet, they don't need any justification for hating Barack. They just hate him and will support Romney. I know a person or two like this. Obama is hardly unfriendly to Israel; but just having the middle name Hussein is enough for them. At some point what someone does or says makes no difference at all. Perception is everything. LouieB Link to post Share on other sites
KevinG Posted July 31, 2012 Share Posted July 31, 2012 If Mitt Romney is elected we will have boots on the ground in Iran by the end of 2013. Link to post Share on other sites
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