choo-choo-charlie Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 Speaking of O'Rourke, I was discussing this someone - I never thought O'Rourke sat in with WIlco at a show before, with the exception of their Letterman or Conan TV appearance. So I guess I was wrong - what other shows does O'Rourke sit in on? I haven't listened to "laptop" or quartet era in awhile. Not sure what other shows he might have guested on. Tweedy introduces him a few times on that recording. I think Scott McCaughey made guest appearances on quite a few of the late-2001 shows. I've heard him introduced on those recordings as well...usually on "California Stars" and whatever the last song was, e.g. "Outtamind Outtasite" or "I Got You." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalafej Posted September 5, 2012 Share Posted September 5, 2012 10-29-2002 isn't the laptop era though, right? I thought that era ended at the end of 2001. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
choo-choo-charlie Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Well, I'm not sure we've established that. I think Mikael was using a laptop quite a bit when he joined the tour in 2002. Whether Jeff was using one at that time, I don't know. I never saw those shows. But *someone* in Wilco certainly was using one. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Well, I'm not sure we've established that. I think Mikael was using a laptop quite a bit when he joined the tour in 2002. Whether Jeff was using one at that time, I don't know. I never saw those shows. But *someone* in Wilco certainly was using one. Yeah, I don't know if I ever gotten anyone to confirm when Michael's first actual show with the band was. He was definitely with them on the West Coast run of shows in late August and early September of 2002 (I can hear him on the soundboards and he's in the Morning Becomes Eclectic video in that timeframe). He had a keyboard rig setup along with the laptop by the October 2002 shows. --Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
choo-choo-charlie Posted September 6, 2012 Share Posted September 6, 2012 Correction: it's the 3/16/2002 show at UCLA, "All Tomorrow's Parties," where O'Rourke guested -- not the 10/29 show as I originally posted. He plays on the nine-minute version of "Not for the Season." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Correction: it's the 3/16/2002 show at UCLA, "All Tomorrow's Parties," where O'Rourke guested -- not the 10/29 show as I originally posted. He plays on the nine-minute version of "Not for the Season." Jim guests on the encore of the 4-30-2003 Minus 5/Wilco show that's on the Owl archive. Well worth checking out. He guests on a few of the June 2003 show encores too. Somedays, I wish Jim was brought on as a full time member in 2001 as Jay's replacement. --Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Not sure what other shows he might have guested on. Tweedy introduces him a few times on that recording. I think Scott McCaughey made guest appearances on quite a few of the late-2001 shows. I've heard him introduced on those recordings as well...usually on "California Stars" and whatever the last song was, e.g. "Outtamind Outtasite" or "I Got You." Yeah, I think the Minus 5 opened for Wilco on some of those dates. When Wilco opened for R.E.M. in 2003, Scott plays on a few of those encores as well. Jim O'Rourke also sat in with the six-piece a few times on the 2004 tour. I think he played the entire New Year's Eve 2004 show with them, but I could be misremembering. --Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bböp Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Yeah, I don't know if I ever gotten anyone to confirm when Michael's first actual show with the band was. He was definitely with them on the West Coast run of shows in late August and early September of 2002 (I can hear him on the soundboards and he's in the Morning Becomes Eclectic video in that timeframe). He had a keyboard rig setup along with the laptop by the October 2002 shows. --Mike I'm pretty sure Mike's first real show as a band member was 7/19/02 at the Murat Egyptian Room in Indianapolis. I think he told me so himself once. That fits in with your general timetable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 I'm pretty sure Mike's first real show as a band member was 7/19/02 at the Murat Egyptian Room in Indianapolis. I think he told me so himself once. That fits in with your general timetable. Thanks so much! I think I may have that boot lying around somewhere will have to track it down. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aricandover Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Seeing where this thread has gone, I felt it appropriate to post this picture. Mike, you're right about the NYE show. I need to dig that out of my box o' bootlegs. That and the 4/29/2003 "Minus Fur" show. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
rareair Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Still on a live recording kick from this era. Listened to 10-29-2002 last night -- a phenomenal show at the Ryman Auditorium in Nashville. Opens with a beautiful version of "Less Than You Think." Jim O'Rourke also guests on this show. Highly recommended listening. my first ever wilco show! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tstrapac Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 That and the 4/29/2003 "Minus Fur" show. What is that? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 What is that? In 2003, Wilco backed Scott McCaughey for three shows in promotion of Down With Wilco, Jessy Green also played with them on violin. For the 4/29 show, Jim O'Rourke joined that lineup in the encore and they did like three or four songs together. Edit: I thought this was on Owl, it isn't yet. Will try to fix soon. --Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aricandover Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 In 2003, Wilco backed Scott McCaughey for three shows in promotion of Down With Wilco, Jessy Green also played with them on violin. For the 4/29 show, Jim O'Rourke joined that lineup in the encore and they did like three or four songs together. Have you stopped reading my dumb post and started downloading it from the Owl yet? I promise it's worth it! --Mike It's not there! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Oil Can Boyd Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Speaking of O'Rourke, I was discussing this someone - I never thought O'Rourke sat in with WIlco at a show before, with the exception of their Letterman or Conan TV appearance. So I guess I was wrong - what other shows does O'Rourke sit in on?I saw O'Rourke sit in on a couple of songs at Avalon in Boston on 10-2-01. They played California Stars and Beard of Stars (by T Rex) which, according to WIlcoBase, was the only time the band ever played it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aricandover Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 I saw O'Rourke sit in on a couple of songs at Avalon in Boston on 10-2-01. They played California Stars and Beard of Stars (by T Rex) which, according to WIlcoBase, was the only time the band ever played it. He also sat in on the 4/24/2003 show, and one (if not both) of the October 2004 Radio City Music Hall shows. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
parisisstale Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Jim was definitely at radio city but can't remember all he played on...he also joined jeff & Glenn at one of the TriBeCa free solo shows in 2005 for a loose fur encore....That was sweet!!! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
choo-choo-charlie Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 my first ever wilco show! Lucky! What a great one to start on. In 2003, Wilco backed Scott McCaughey for three shows in promotion of Down With Wilco, Jessy Green also played with them on violin. For the 4/29 show, Jim O'Rourke joined that lineup in the encore and they did like three or four songs together. Have you stopped reading my dumb post and started downloading it from the Owl yet? I promise it's worth it! --Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted September 7, 2012 Share Posted September 7, 2012 Sorry, the Minus Fur show isn't on the Wilco archive. They played two shows on April 30th, 2003. A World Cafe gig and a full gig in New York. Owl has the World Cafe set. I'll see what I can do about getting that show in the right hands so it's included in the next update. --Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
i'm only sleeping Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Posted 07 September 2012 - 05:37 AMchoo-choo-charlie, on 05 September 2012 - 10:52 PM, said: Not sure what other shows he might have guested on. Tweedy introduces him a few times on that recording. I think Scott McCaughey made guest appearances on quite a few of the late-2001 shows. I've heard him introduced on those recordings as well...usually on "California Stars" and whatever the last song was, e.g. "Outtamind Outtasite" or "I Got You." Yeah, I think the Minus 5 opened for Wilco on some of those dates. When Wilco opened for R.E.M. in 2003, Scott plays on a few of those encores as well. Jim O'Rourke also sat in with the six-piece a few times on the 2004 tour. I think he played the entire New Year's Eve 2004 show with them, but I could be misremembering. --Mike Thanks for the tip, it is a pheomenal show. Who's the second voice in she's a jar? It is not John for sure... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted September 12, 2012 Share Posted September 12, 2012 Thanks for the tip, it is a pheomenal show. Who's the second voice in she's a jar? It is not John for sure... On the NYE show? It could be Pat or Jim. --Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
i'm only sleeping Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 On the NYE show? It could be Pat or Jim. --Mike oops, sorry, I referred to March 16, 2002, All Tomorrow's Parties. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 oops, sorry, I referred to March 16, 2002, All Tomorrow's Parties. Then it's Leroy. Leroy sang the deeper (Jay) harmonies on the 01-03 tours. --Mike Quote Link to post Share on other sites
choo-choo-charlie Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Definitely Leroy on that one, but I hear John singing on some of them too. Seems like they weren't sticking to any one arrangement on those days, trying different approaches... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted September 13, 2012 Share Posted September 13, 2012 Must admit, this is one the best Wilco threads in a while - need to revisit (or visit) these shows mentioned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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