IRememberDBoon Posted January 28, 2014 Share Posted January 28, 2014 that damn MMJ deal down there would be so much fun. they are one of a very few bands that would be fun to see in a situation like that. Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted January 30, 2014 Share Posted January 30, 2014 Just got email that Dave #9 has shipped. Link to post Share on other sites
Shug Posted January 31, 2014 Share Posted January 31, 2014 I was asking about details of overdubs on Europe '72 and Europe '72 Vol. 2 a ways back. Just came across this cool essay on the subject: http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-europe-72-overdubs-guest-post.html Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I was asking about details of overdubs on Europe '72 and Europe '72 Vol. 2 a ways back. Just came across this cool essay on the subject: http://deadessays.blogspot.com/2014/01/the-europe-72-overdubs-guest-post.htmlExcellent find, thanks for posting. Link to post Share on other sites
IRememberDBoon Posted February 1, 2014 Share Posted February 1, 2014 I always thought the lineI received your letter yesterdayAbout the time the doorknob brokewas AWESOME! When I was young I was like WTF is he talking about and now I still am.The only thing I could picture is his girl being in her NY apartment with another man and him knocking on the door and her saying she couldn't let him in because the doorknob was broke? Link to post Share on other sites
dagwave Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 I interpreted the lyric as in "my cat ran away, my care won't start, and then I got an ex-girlfriends letter that reminds me I'm not over her". Link to post Share on other sites
IRememberDBoon Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 whoops. wrong topic Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 whoops. wrong topicI was wondering about that! Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted February 2, 2014 Share Posted February 2, 2014 Though i always loved Weir's interpretation of the lyrics. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 whoops. wrong topicI don't care, I still think it's a subpar Dylan lyric. Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 So, if I just started listening to Europe 72 and Live/Dead and I really like both (much prefer Live/Dead) what are some shows y'all could recommend? Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 There's a topic on the Hoffman Music Forum recently started that may be particularly suited to your question. It's a lot to read through, but a good place to start: http://forums.stevehoffman.tv/threads/embarking-on-a-grateful-dead-journey-all-purpose-thread.339154/ In that topic, one writer did a nice synopsis of the DIck's Picks series, which I keep accessible on my phone when trolling the record store.  This may be more info than you bargained for. Dick's Picks, Vol. 1: 12/19/73 Tampa: The first DP was greeted by fans with a collective "....huh?" when it came out. Lesh was very involved with the selection of the early DPs, and he's a finicky bastard, which led to a whole bunch of politics and necessary compromises and the ultimate selection of the cream of this show -- the last one of 1973 tour -- as a consensus choice. And it was a pretty meh debut for the series: the problem isn't that it's a 'highlights' set (I actually very much appreciate that approach, though other Deadheads squawk about it...I don't really need to hear yet another friggin' "Me & My Uncle" or "El Paso" or "Tennessee Jed"), the problem is that it's only an okay show. The centerpiece of the set was obviously meant to be the "He's Gone" > "Truckin'" > Jam on disc 2, but the real highlight IMO is the "Playing In The Band" found on disc 1. Still, put this one further down on your list of DPs.  Dick's Picks, Vol. 2: 10/31/71 Columbus: If Deadheads were put off by the partial show and curious selection of DP1, they were even more cheesed off when DP2 was announced. Only ONE CD? What kind of joke was this? Well everyone pretty much shut the hell up once it was released. This is the proverbial "one disc wonder": a partial SBD of the second set of the Dead's Halloween 1971 show in Columbus OH that features one of the few "Dark Star"s they played that year. And it's not just any "Dark Star" -- this is a MONSTER of a performance, on of their all-time greatest, and one of the last they did in their older, 1969-1970 melodic style before introducing the freakout meltdowns into the mix in 1972. The rest of the disc is pretty great as well, but it's an afterthought compared to the "Dark Star."   Dick's Picks, Vol. 4: 2/13-14/70 Fillmore East: A legendary series of shows, with good reason, but this is actually a somewhat flawed set. The Valentine's Day 1970 Dead shows in New York were legendary long before this release, having circulated in trading circles (and also having been used for the official History Of The Grateful Dead, Vol. 1 (Bear's Choice)release in 1973), but finally we got a perfectly patched and fixed-up release of the most vaunted material from this run. The centerpiece is of course "Dark Star" (from 2/13/70) and with good reason: here it is, the alpha-omega, the single greatest performance of the Grateful Dead's most important song. Every gushing word that has ever been written about it is fully justified. It occupies the second half of disc 1 of this 3CD set, and what comes before it is also superb -- A fine early "China" > "Rider" > "High Time" sequence, an epic "Dancing In The Streets," and one of the more rippin' performances of a song that most Deadheads are tired of in "Casey Jones."  The problem, however, is with the rest of the set. Disc two is given entirely over to the rest of the 2/13/70 jam that follows out of "Dark Star," and it's actually fairly mediocre for the Dead from this era. "That's It For The Other One" is adequate (although saddled, as most performances from this era are, with a drum solo that's way too damn long), but "Lovelight" is a terribly difficult slog at 30 minutes: low energy, draggy, and a bit out of tune at times. The lengthy jam on Disc 3 comes from 2/14/70, and while it's nearly as famous among fans as the "Dark Star" from 2/13/70, I for one am not as enthusiastic. I love earlier "Alligator," but it's clear that the Dead were getting sick of the song at this point and it's dispatched with little commitment. Then we have to suffer through a truly interminable drum solo (12 & 1/2 minutes!) and our reward on the other end is..."Me & My Uncle." Ack! Thankfully things pick up after that with "Not Fade Away," which heads into one of the final "Mason's Children" and then a truly great "Caution," but all in all a significant amount of running time on this set is actually given over to material I don't care to listen to. Nevertheless, you need to at least own the first disc of this set - no Dead fan's collection is complete without it.  Dick's Picks, Vol. 7: 9/9-11/74 London: I'm actually not the biggest fan of '74-era Dead -- they were seriously beginning to flag by the second half of the year, which puts their 'retirement' after October '74 into proper context -- but even those who are were unimpressed by this release. Taken from a three-show run at Alexandra Palace in London during the Dead's second visit to Europe, this set features mediocre sound quality (in truth, the board tapes during the Wall Of Sound era always sounded inferior to those that came before and after due to the microphones used on stage) and unfocused performances. Others can disagree, but I think this is one of the least essential DPs of the entire pre-retirement era.  Dick's Picks, Vol. 8: 5/2/70 Harpur College: This, however, is not. This is one of the most beloved shows ever performed by the Dead, one which fans had cherished for decades before it finally saw official release. Mid-1970 Dead, during theirWorkingman's Dead/American Beauty heyday, playing to an extremely unruly college crowd (to get a sense of the atmosphere on college campuses at this time, note that Nixon's Cambodian bombings had just been revealed and Kent State was only two days away) and simply mastering them, first with a riveting acoustic set and then with an electric performance that rivals any they ever gave. There are no flaws on this show, no weak songs, no lesser renditions, no quibbles with setlists, NOTHING TO CRITICIZE. Would I have liked a "Dark Star?" Well, maybe, but then again maybe not given the fact that the "That's It For The Other One" featured here is arguably the most shit-hot run-through of the song EVER done. "Cosmic Charlie" is orgasmic. "Dancing In Streets" is the definitive rendition. Pigpen is commanding on a James Brown cover of "It's A Man's, Man's, Man's World" that the band usually struggled through. And it all ends with a "Viola Lee Blues" that probably left the first few rows of audience members temporarily blind. (Not deaf...BLIND.) One of the most obligatory Dick's Picks in the entire series. Mug a grandma to get the money for this if you don't have it on hand.  Dick's Picks, Vol. 11: 9/27/72 Jersey City: A pick beloved by many others but not by me. I've said before that I consider the June-December 1972 era of live Dead to be a hangover from E'72 and the loss of Pigpen and his repertoire, and that applies here. The "China" > "Rider" is unbearable, due to the bum note Bobby keeps hitting as he plays his riff, and even the normally reliable "Playing In The Band" doesn't do much for me. The centerpiece here is "Dark Star" > "Cumberland Blues" (a sequence they never did before or after, IIRC), but I'm not captivated by this DS. Others here are welcome to offer their praise of this show as a counterbalance, but it ain't for me.  Dick's Picks, Vol. 12: 6/26/74 Providence & 6/28/74 Boston: If you want only one 1974 set, this is the one. A magnificently curated selection of highlights from these two summer '74 shows, this set is notable not only for the remarkable jams (about which more presently) but also the sound quality, which is easily the best of any '74 boards out there. Ah, but the jams! Herein ye shall find the longest, most jammed out, most delightful "China Cat" > "I Know You Rider" sequence the Dead ever played (it clocks in at TWENTY MINUTES!), a great "Truckin'" sequence that also takes in "The Other One" and "Spanish Jam," and disc-long 6/28/74 excursion that starts with one of the great "Weather Report Suite"s and heads quickly to parts unknown with a 28-minute free-form exploration that evolves into the rapturous "Mind Left Body Jam" so beloved by fans. Highly recommended for fans of '74 Dead.  Esoteric's Dick's Picks trawl (covering the years 1968-1974), Pt. 2!  Dick's Picks, Vol. 14: 11/30/73 & 12/2/73 Boston: My understanding is that this Pick was actually greeted with rather mixed reactions when it was first released. I cannot for the life of me understand why that would be the case. This 4CD set selects highlights from the first and third shows of a three-show stand at the Boston Music Hall and it's a truly magnificent digest of the best of the Fall '73 tour (a tour which I consider to be the near-equal of E'72). The 1st and 3rd discs of this show have some shorter first set songs that are for the most part filler (not filler: a lovely "Brown-Eyed Woman" from 12/2/73 with Keith adding delicate color). But the rest of this set is packed to the gills with substantive, rewarding jams and surprising song-sequences. "Playing In The Band" was at its absolute peak during the Fall of 1973 -- it began to get a bit toogaseous and aimless in 1974 -- and this set gives us two examples why that's the case: the second PITB forms a central part of the 12/2/73 jam but it's actually the 11/30/73 standalone version that impresses mightily, walking a fine line between cosmic exploration and relentless rhythmic churn without ever misstepping. "Here Come Sunshine" is given one of its finest-ever performances. The "Weather Report" > "Dark Star Jam" > "Eyes Of The World" from 11/30/73 is one of my top 20 Dead jams, primarily because this is one of my favorite "Eyes." And the whole thing is bracketed by two monumental "Morning Dew"s. Highly recommended!  Dick's Picks, Vol. 16: 11/8/69 Fillmore Auditorium: This 3CD complete show from the day Live/Dead was officially released is a remarkable study in contrasts. The first disc (representing the first set) is absolutely godawful. A near-coaster. The "Good Morning Little Schoolgirl" is competent, "Good Lovin'" doesn't embarrass the band, but everything else is so bad it's damn near funny. The band plays a rough, early electric version of "Dire Wolf," but just as Jerry is about to finish his last verse he completely forgets his place in the song...leading them to play the whole thing through a second time over without stopping. (The sequence should be listed "Dire Wolf" > "Dire Wolf"). "Cumberland Blues" gets its world debut and it's a disaster, with nobody quite sure what to play. A terribly inauspicious beginning to the show.  But it doesn't matter, because discs 2 and 3 represent the single finest, most impressive jam in the entire history of the Grateful Dead. I know I've used the terms "favorite" this and "top" that and "best" this a bit loosely so far, so please understand I'm not using hyperbole when I say that the 95 minutes of nonstop jamming beginning with "Dark Star" and ending with "And We Bid You Goodnight" is music that all Deadheads treasure, and that I honestly do believe has never been topped. The setlist alone says it all: Dark Star > The Other One > Dark Star > Uncle John's Band Jam > Dark Star > St. Stephen > The Eleven > Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) > The Main Ten > Caution (Do Not Stop On Tracks) > Feedback > And We Bid You Goodnight. Oh, and a 25 minute "Lovelight" from the night before is thrown in for good measure at the end of the last disc (and this isn't a random "Lovelight," either, but an exciting one that fully deserves its length). I can't emphasize enough how important is for any fan of live Dead to own, borrow, steal, whatever this set. Laugh at the first disc, build a shrine to the rest.  Dick's Picks, Vol. 19: 10/19/73 Oklahoma City: Yet another release from the Fall '73 tour and you could make an argument that this one, as a complete show with no real perceptible flaws, is even better than DP14. I waver on that question, but no question that this is one of the most emotionally and atmospherically consistent concerts they gave in 1973, and the setlist is unimpeachably selected and performed. Everything I would want in a '73 show is here and played brilliantly: the best of the first set songs ("They Love Each Other," "Sugaree," "Jack Straw"), the greatest "Playing In The Band" of 1973, a "China" > "Rider" that rivals the 6/26/74 one found on DP12, and a second set jam famous for the introduction of the "Mind Left Body Jam" (played as the tail end of a wonderful "Dark Star") for the first time. Also has one of the longest encores of the Dead's career: "Eyes Of The World" > "Stella Blue" and finally "Johnny B. Goode." A fantastic night for the band and arguably the best place to start if you want to hear what late 1973 sounded like.  Dick's Picks, Vol. 22: 2/23-24/68 Lake Tahoe, CA: Quite simply, my favorite Dick's Pick of all time. You've seen me praise other DPs so far as being obligatory, must-own, etc. I won't quite do that with this one, for the simple reason that Primal Dead -- this show hails from the November 1967-March 1968 run of shows the Dead taped for use on Anthem Of The Sun -- is not to everyone's tastes. But it sure as hell is to MY taste, and if you like early Dead even in the slightest (say, if you enjoy Two From The Vault) then you'd be insane not to own DP22, which is held in the highest of esteem by Deadheads for multiple reasons. Firstly, because it gave us a show that had never circulated (and in fact people didn't even think EXISTED on tape) prior to its being announced. Secondly because the setlists and song sequences are insane and rare, particularly the Alligator > China Cat Sunflower > The Eleven > Caution > Feedback run from 2/24/68. But finally, because the music is played with incredible verve, by a hungry band that was just beginning to feel its strength. Herein you will find the greatest-ever performance of "Turn On Your Lovelight," with Jerry tossing out acid-bop melodies with sweet abandon. Herein you will find an early "That's It For The Other One" with only one drummer (Billy was relaxing off to the side, tired from a day of skiing and tripping on acid) fading into a note-perfect "New Potato Caboose." Herein you see Pigpen tear the joint apart with great readings of "Good Morning Little Schoolgirl" and "It Hurts Me Too." And the whole thing BEGINS with a classic "Viola Lee Blues" -- 20 minutes of sheer insanity. This one isn't for everyone, but if you like this era it's one of the most valuable and welcome releases in the entire official Grateful Dead canon.  Dick's Picks, Vol. 23: 9/17/72 Baltimore: I wish I could like this show more than I do, as it hails from my home state and was played on my birthday (wrong year, tho'). But as I've said before I'm not much of a fan of late '72 Dead and this does little to dissuade me. It is extremely competent, with no faults or groaners. There's a lengthy exploration of "The Other One" (40 minutes!) that takes you to some very interesting places. But the rest of the setlist is almost painfully generic for this period of the band ("Casey Jones," "Uncle John's Band," "Friend Of The Devil" -- which just doesn't work in this electric arrangement -- "El Paso," "Me & My Uncle," etc.) and I just can't get too excited about it.  Dick's Picks, Vol. 24: 3/23/74 Cow Palace: A very sub-standard release. The inescapable truth is that this one only came out because the occasion was historic: the debut of the Dead's "Wall Of Sound." But the music isn't very memorable at all -- "Cassidy" has a world debut (it would go back into the vaults for another two years before becoming a regular), there's a PITB > UJB > Morning Dew > UJB > PITB palindromic jam that some people praise but I find to be rather clumsily executed (Jerry's guitar on "Morning Dew" is pathetic), and the rest is neither here nor there. Avoid.  (to be continued...)   Esoteric's Dick's Picks trawl (covering the years 1968-1974), Pt. 3!  Dick's Picks, Vol. 26: 4/26/69 Chicago & 4/27/69 Minneapolis: A fine release that's easy enough to summarize as being one step beyond Live/Dead in terms of setlist and approach. This set evidences the Dead's desire to re-expand their repertoire after contracting it in January-March '69 to focus on nailing the songs that would go onto Live/Dead. The first disc is mostly given over to 'highlights' from a well-known concert from 4/26/69 where the band played a ridiculously long single-set show at Chicago's Electric Theater. (The story goes that they were sharing a bill for two nights with the Velvet Underground, alternating opening slots, and the VU aced them out the night before on 4/25 by playing such a lengthy opening show that the Dead was left with only 50 minutes for their set. They returned the favor on 4/26 by playing for two hours in their opening set.) The reason I put "highlights" in scare quotes is because the best/rarest material from this show is sadly absent, having either been released elsewhere (the epic "Viola Lee Blues" found on Fallout From The Phil Zone) or left inexplicably in the can (a unique one-off 'performance' of "What's Become Of The Baby?" bracketed by massive "Feedback"s on either side). So what you're left with is the interesting opening medley tease, where the Dead threatens a standard "Dupree's" > "Mountains Of The Moon" transition into "Dark Star" but instead jumps into a newly-revived "China Cat Sunflower" and then ends  with "Doin' That Rag." The "That's It For The Other One" medley rapidly runs off course with a purely instrumental diversion into "The Eleven" and, instead of the expected "Cryptical Envelopment" reprise, they conclude with an old blues number "I Know It's A Sin" sung by Jerry instead of Pig. Fun stuff and good music too, but it's more than a bit frustrating when you realize that the sole known performance of "What's Become Of The Baby" was left in the vaults and that the show's official release makes it now nearly-impossible to find anywhere (thankfully I have it!).  The real meat of this show is the Minneapolis show, however. The band was late to the gig, so they don't mess around and get right down to it. They open with "Turn On Your Lovelight" (a sure sign of a special night in 1969), and medley it straight into the first-ever "Me & My Uncle" since 1967 and then into a great "Sitting On Top Of The World." Then a full-blown "Dark Star" > "St. Stephen" > "The Eleven" medley that is easily the equal of the one found on Live/Dead, all wrapping up with a REPRISE of "Lovelight." (That's 33 minutes' worth of "Lovelight" all told, and amazingly it doesn't drag at all!) An apologetic encore of "Morning Dew," and that's all folks. This is the only Dick's Pick to come from theLive/Dead era and is warmly recommended for fans of that album. Others can make it less of a priority.  Dick's Pick, Vol, 28: 2/26/73 Lincoln, NE & 2/28/73 Salt Lake City: The true 'sleeper' pick in the entire DP series, I can't recommend this set enough. I bought this set very early on in my experience of learning the Dead's music, as my idea of an introduction to 1973's 'sound,' and it did the trick in spades. This set represents the February '73 period, when the Dead first opened a barrelful of new songs that would feature on both Wake Of The Flood and Mars Hotel. What's truly remarkable about this is that, while many of the Dead's big jamming numbers would take a lot of time to grow into their full-blown forms (e.g. "Truckin," "He's Gone," "Dark Star," "The Other One" etc.), the Dead's big vehicle from this era, "Eyes Of The World," was born fully realized. This set gives us two generous examples of how glorious the earliest versions of "Eyes Of The World" could be (this may in fact be the best era for the song!), each of them nearly twenty minutes long and bursting with improvisational ideas.  That's not the only thing that recommends this release though, not by a longshot. DP28 is a 4CD set featuring two nearly complete shows played out in the Middle Of Nowhere, America (part of its charm, incidentally -- the Dead didn't save their best work for, say, New York or Boston or San Francisco...they were capable of bringing it in a major way to Lincoln Nebraska, Oklahoma City, Des Moines, or Salt Lake City too). What's truly remarkable about this release is how consistent each show is: normally with a DP (or a Dead show from 1972 onwards) there is a temptation to skip the shorter "first set" songs to get to the meat of the show, the second-set jams. You'd be making a huge mistake if you did that here: these shows have crisply perfect first-set songs, great renditions of "Loser," "Jack Straw," a rare standalone "He's Gone," maybe my favorite "Greatest Story Ever Told," the best "Box Of Rain" I've ever heard the band perform, and TWO lovely versions of "They Love Each Other." The "Playing In The Band" from 2/26/73 is one of my favorites from the song's "expanded era" (i.e. late '72 to 1974). And the jams! Oh lordy, the "Dark Star" > "Eyes" > "Mississippi Half-Step" on 2/26 is magnificent, and the "Truckin'" > "The Other One" > "Eyes" > "Morning Dew" from 2/28 is only slightly less perfect. To repeat what I said above, I cannot recommend this set highly enough as a perfect introduction to the Dead's 1973 sound. Own it, treasure it.  Dick's Picks, Vol. 30: 3/25, 27 & 28/72 - Academy of Music, New York City: Another DP release that caused a big hullabaloo when it was first announced, because the Academy of Music run of shows (basically an extended 'warm-up' for the band before their trip to Europe) had only ever circulated on truly bog-quality AUD tapes prior to this and the SBDs were believed lost from the vaults. Well, the band managed to recover them (how they managed to do it is quite the tale of skullduggery), and this is one of the results: a 4CD set, the first disc of which is given over to highlights of 3/25 and 3/27, and the next three of which are devoted to a complete show from 3/28.  I wish I enjoyed this set more than I do. In theory it should be unimpeachable: this is, after all, basically Europe '72 by any other name. The problem is that I'm just not that in love with the 3/28/72 itself, though many others praise it. Furthermore, the 3/25/72 excerpts found on disc 1 are largely useless: most come from a set where the Dead played as the backing band for opening act Bo Diddley, so it's really a Bo Diddley set -- the music isn't all that great. The excerpts from the second set of 3/25 ARE excellent -- three mega-rarities in the one-off performances of "Are You Lonely For Me, Baby?," "How Sweet It Is (To Be Loved By You)," and the final-ever "Smokestack Lightning" -- and the disc concludes with what I think may actually be the best performance of "Playing In The Band" ever given, from 3/27/72. But the actual show from 3/28/72 is, while competently performed, just not that exciting to me. The big jam is based around "The Other One" and I feel like it meanders too long before petering out into nothingness. The show is questionably paced. Again, other Deadheads swear by this release, but I'm not one of them.  Dick's Picks, Vol. 31: 8/4-5/74 Philadelphia & 8/6/74 Jersey City: A fine 4CD digest of three consecutive shows from the Dead's long hot stadium tour of summer 1974. This has never been my favorite era of pre-retirement band -- the liner notes talk about crippling heat, unruly crowds, and excessive cocaine use and that vibe comes through to me in the music -- but this set surely captures the best of this period. The first disc (composed of first set material from 8/4 & 8/5) is the most disposable, but the opening "Playing In The Band" from 8/4 is as good as the song -- which was fading by this time IMO -- got during this era. Discs 2 & 3 represent the second set jams from each show, and while they're not all-time highlights the music is never less than entertaining. The real treat for me at least is disc 4, which excerpts a beloved 8/6/74 show while somewhat perversely omitting the lengthy second set jam that most Deadheads treasure the show for. I however am just fine with this selection, beginning with a lovely, extended "Eyes Of The World" and continuing onward with a unique "Playing" > "Scarlet Begonias" (here in its original '74 arrangement, not the more familiar version from later years) > "Playing" sandwich. If you love '74 era Dead, this is one to prioritize. Me, I would recommend Dick's Picks 12 before any other '74.  Dick's Picks, Vol. 35: 8/7/71 San Diego, 8/24/71 Chicago, & 8/6/71 Hollywood: Another major DP release, this 4CD set brings us the bulk of two shows from the long-lost August 1971 SBDs with a bonus from 8/6/71. (The SBDs for these shows, the last the band played before Keith joined, had long been missing from the Vault and were only recovered after being found on Godchaux's houseboat decades later.) While the historical value of this set is beyond dispute (included here are an otherwise unreleased Pigpen original "Empty Pages" as well as a very embryonic version of "Brown-Eyed Woman"), the musical value has always been iffy for me, as I'm not really a fan of the "shoot 'em up bar band" version of the Dead that pre-Keith 1971 represented. Lots of shorter, first-set material, little-to-nothing in the way of extended jamming (for 8/7 and 8/24 the closest it gets is the standard NFA > GDTRFB > NFA sandwich, which is telling)...this may be your ideal Dead profile, but it's not mine.  Dick's Picks, Vol. 36: 9/21/72 Philadelphia: The DP series concludes by finally Giving The People What They Want, namely the full 9/21/72 show, a legendary performance from Philadelphia's barn of a venue, the Spectrum, where the Dead played one of their longest-ever shows (four hours!) and covered pretty much all the bases in doing so. As you have seen, I'm not much a fan of post-Europe 1972 Dead, but even I have to dock my reservations for this massive show, which features a unique 13 minute "Bird Song" (extended because Jerry broke a string and the rest of the band had to cover for him mid-song), great versions of "He's Gone" (I prefer this song so much more when it's done as a standalone number), "Playing In The Band," "Black Peter," and of course the epic "Dark Star" > "Morning Dew" climax. The remainder of the show after "Morning Dew" -- they played for 45 more minutes! -- is a bit anti-climactic, but this set redeems that by tacking on a fantastic "He's Gone" > "The Other One" > "Wharf Rat" jam from 9/3/72 to bring a sense of finality to the entire listening experience. A legendary show and great value-for-money: if it's a 1972 Dick's Pick you're looking for, this is the one you need. Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Wow thanks.  Just searched amazon for a few of those. Looks like most are out of my reach. Expensive stuff!  It looks like Dick's Pick #8 is my next purchase. Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 If you don't mind downloads - they are all available (flac) at http://www.livedownloads.com/live-music/3,461/Grateful-Dead-mp3-flac-downloads.html #8 is a great one - #4, too. Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Wow thanks.  Just searched amazon for a few of those. Looks like most are out of my reach. Expensive stuff!  It looks like Dick's Pick #8 is my next purchase.DP 8 is a classic. Acoustic and electric.  Let me clarify, the DP analysis is what it says it is, just the Dick's Picks. There are any number of official GD/Rhino releases that are likely still available, not out of print, that are very worthy. You may want to start with Europe '72, Vol. 2, which came out a year or 2 ago as a companion to the original release. All different songs. For the time period you referred to, '69-72, you may also find Ladies and Gentlemen (Fillmore East April '71), or the Fillmore West '69 set, or any of the Europe '72 tour releases, such as Steppin Out, Rockin the Rhine, or Hundred Year Hall. Or the famous Sunshine Daydream show, from August '72. It's pretty endless. Scroll through that Hoffman topic when you're looking to kill time for more suggestions. Link to post Share on other sites
Shug Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 As always, with Deadheads, you will find polarizing opinions. I'm not that impressed with 5-2-70. The sound quality is not as good as other releases and I just don't hear the awesomeness that others seem to in this show. I'd take Dicks Picks 4 over DP #8 anyday. Dark Star!!! plus Dancin' In The Streets, Other One and Not Fade Away are highlights, I think.  I heartily concur with the March 69 Fillmore 3 CD set. Its awesome sounding, performed brilliantly, and the packaging is great, too. (Live/Dead was taken from these shows) For '72, Sunshine Daydream Veneta Oregon is fantastic. edit: I sampled Dick Picks 4 and 8 just now. The difference in sound quality is notable. #8 is a tinny, trebley recording with some instruments (Weir's guitar and Pig's organ) buried in the mix and there is too much audience/hall reverb in the recording for my tastes. DP #4 is richer sounding with more bass and the mix is quite balanced between instruments and its sounds like the instruments are all around you, a really nice spatial separation. Owsley recorded the Feb Fillmore East run and Bob Matthews did for the Harpur College show. Something went wrong that night with the recording. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I would add Skull & Roses to the list of essentials (over any of the "Picks" series), but then I prefer Europe '72 to Live/Dead, so I might not be the best one to listen to... Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 3, 2014 Author Share Posted February 3, 2014 All the Dicks Pick's are going to be re-released. Although - I guess they are vinyl only, and pretty expensive. I have had some good luck finding a few I wanted on Ebay for not a lot of money. Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Being new to the Dead, it is easy to get overwhelmed. As you preferred Live/Dead, I would recommend Dick's Picks 2, as it has one of the great Dark Stars of all time, the transition into Sugar Mags is amazing, and at one disc, it is easily digestible. Rest of the disc is rounded out by solid versions of Dead staples St Stephen, Goin Down the Road, and Not Fade Away. If you're still interested and looking for another performance in the same vein as Live/Dead, check out Two from the Vault: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Two_from_the_Vault Similar track list to Live/Dead, but a mind-warping version of The 11. Plus the Other One, New Potato Caboose, and a nice Morning Dew, done quite differently than the version on Europe 72. Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 I dabbled in the Dead many years ago - in the late 80s, saw them twice in successive summers (89 and 90) at Alpine Valley, Wisconsin. It didn't really grab me then, but I think browsing through this thread revived my interest. I'm still put off by Bob Weir, but I do enjoy Garcia's and Lesh's playing. The friends of mine who were deadheads used to give me tapes, but I was never impressed with the audio quality, so that's my biggest apprehension in starting to listen to the older shows.  Thanks to everyone who contributed a suggestion - I will start looking into the recommendations slowly. Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted February 3, 2014 Share Posted February 3, 2014 Being new to the Dead, it is easy to get overwhelmed. As you preferred Live/Dead, I would recommend Dick's Picks 2, as it has one of the great Dark Stars of all time, the transition into Sugar Mags is amazing, and at one disc, it is easily digestible. Rest of the disc is rounded out by solid versions of Dead staples St Stephen, Goin Down the Road, and Not Fade Away.Yes, that transition into Sugar Mag is one of my favorites, one of the best organic transitions I've heard.  There's another one in this class I used to have on cassette many years ago, never got it digitally, from St. Paul, '73 or '74 I think, a transition from Here Comes Sunshine to China Cat that is equally jawdropping. Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 Another one of my favorite transitions is this Sugar Mags>Scarlet Begonias. They paired the two together a number of times, but this transition is absolutely seamless, you don't even realize it happened. Link to post Share on other sites
IRememberDBoon Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 ^^^^^that was my 19th birthday show! and I was on the tenth row on some acid that would make anyone blush Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 ^^^^^ that was my 19th birthday show! and I was on the tenth row on some acid that would make anyone blush!!! Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted February 4, 2014 Share Posted February 4, 2014 ^^^^^ that was my 19th birthday show! and I was on the tenth row on some acid that would make anyone blushha. that's great - I was there too. In the wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy back. Link to post Share on other sites
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