Mr. Heartbreak Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 That '77 box is only available digitally now. The boxes themselves are sold out. Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 That '77 box is only available digitally now. The boxes themselves are sold out.Yeah - went to the site when I got home last night and saw that -- oh well. Digitally is definitely cheaper, though - and no shipping charges. Have to admit, I play most of music through my hard drive/home stereo system - so having it just digitally is fine by me. Link to post Share on other sites
Shug Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Just started listening to a SBD of a show from 10/21/83, and hot damn...nice Music Never Stopped opener. Jerry is all over the fretboard on this show. No wonder people on Dead.net are always crying out for more 80s releases. Even froggy voice Jerry can deliver on the solos. Check it out: https://archive.org/details/gd1983-10-21.mtx.seamons.105419.flac16 I checked this show out, really nice first set and first half of the second set, too. There are a lot of good shows in 1983. I've been working my way thru the recommendations I've gotten here and there have been lots of winners. Thanks! Voodoonola has three full shows from the New Year's Eve run in 1983 up on YouTube for viewing and those are all pretty good too. I listened again to Santa Fe 1983 and yep, its still sounding great. I dig the Help>Slip>Franlin's>Let It Grow. Brent and Jerry are clicking. Thanks, too, for the reminder of the Road Trips. I didn't realize the physical discs of the Louisville '74 were available, I just bought the download a few weeks ago. I'm thinking of picking up the Road Trips from Philly 1982. I think I have that tape but haven't listened to it in years. I remember it to be a pretty good performance. I opted not to get the May '77 box, because I have so many high quality recordings from that month already, but from all these descriptions of the killer sound, I'm kinda regretting it. I can always get the downloads, though. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I checked this show out, really nice first set and first half of the second set, too. There are a lot of good shows in 1983. I've been working my way thru the recommendations I've gotten here and there have been lots of winners. Glad you enjoyed it, man. If you're in the mood for '83 shows, check out this one from the same month, in Richmond, VA. This was the only time I ever got a Crazy Fingers at a show. I really enjoy Jerry's playing on this night. Too bad I barely remember being there. https://archive.org/details/gd1983-10-08.111147.beyer-senn-daweez.d5scott.flac16 Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I love the Sugar Mag tease before they switch into Good Lovin'....that's a good show. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 I love the Sugar Mag tease before they switch into Good Lovin'....that's a good show.That part still weirds me out every time I hear it. It's a real "wtf" moment, because it's such a long tease. At the time it was a bit of a letdown for those of us who like Sugar Mag, but not too much. Really high energy version of Minglewood on this, a song I never really cared about hearing. Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Day Job opened up the 2nd set at The Richmond 83 show - I don't think I ever saw that song in that slot before, but I don't listen to 83 or 84 very often, so perhaps they did. Brent keyboard is really up in the mix of Feel like a Stranger on the Silberman/Miller tape. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Yep, they sure did. Pretty cool. Maybe that was the reason I always liked Day Job more than other people did: good memories associated with it. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Day Job started as a first set closer, iir. The problem wasn't necessarily the tune itself, but the slot it settled in (encore). And '83 is a kick-ass year. Try the Charlottesville show, too. Awesome Aiko out of Space..... Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Day Job started as a first set closer, iir. The problem wasn't necessarily the tune itself, but the slot it settled in (encore). And '83 is a kick-ass year. Try the Charlottesville show, too. Awesome Aiko out of Space.....9/14/82, right? That appears to be the only time they ever played Charlottesville. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 21, 2014 Share Posted February 21, 2014 Oops, '82, correct! The UVM show in '83 is solid, too....shitty quality as it was in a school gym, but solid show. Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 I was " off the bus" from about '81-87, never listen to or possess any shows from the early '80's era up to first coma and never before felt like I missed anything. But based on this chatter here i think I'm going to have to spend some time with '83. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Man, don't miss '82 either, especially the Frost shows from 10/9 & 10/10! Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Is there a Dark Star on DP 9? That's MSG 9/16/90 right? Did you mean DP 19 which is Oklahoma City 10/19/73? There are a lot of versions of Dark Star that well-versed fans will point out as exceptional, like Rotterdam '72, 2/13/70 Fillmore East, etc. I listened to the Veneta Oregon '72 Dark Star today, and WOW! fucking fantastic playing to my ears. On that day (easily heard in the Bird Song and the Playin In The Band, too) I think they were in a perfect state to play in a dreamy, care-free, meandering way, that was still purposeful and focused, a real nice balance between the two. I don't think I've heard any other show where the hit that spot and stay there for such a long time. In its best incarnations, Dark Star was a vehicle for superb improvised jamming. When it was played in an uninspired way I can imagine it being tedious for some. To me a good Dark Star is the Dead doing what the did best, collective jamming. Simple riffs and themes like the structured part of Dark Star can make excellent leaping off points for free form jamming (just like the Allmans did with There Is A Mountain) and its also relatively easy for a band to find that riff again to bookend the jam or maybe find it and then take off again into space or another song like they sometimes did. I think Heads loved Dark Star because in the early days it was the prime jamming vehicle and you knew it was gonna get weird. Some people just loved the weird openness and possibilities for psychedelic adventure that Dark Star consistently provided up until 1974. In later years when there was less chaotic jamming at Dead shows overall, getting a Dark Star represented a chance to hear that kind of playing again (even though they didn't always pull it off) and it became rare and human nature is to value rare things higher than those that are common. They never dropped Playin In The Band for very long and it was kinda similar in function to Dark Star, but people didn't get as excited for it because it was common, I'd say. People who love Dark Star probably love the Playin in the Bands that got weird too, like 7/29/88. But Dark Star had some things going for it that set it apart, too, like the lilting little melody that got the thing started. It was like a lighthearted carefree moment before the weirdness started and then they might find that place again after a long journey to strange places, so there could be a sense of having a touchstone in the middle or at the end of the psychedelic storm. Plus it was sung by Jerry and when his voice was still high, that could also be soothing and reassuring. All these impressions would of course be amplified when a listener was in a psychedelic state of mind and if they got emotional then personal meaning gets placed on to the song, making it more special to that listener. I know that's a lot of analysis, but if you really want to understand why people love Dark Star, that is where you have to go.Man, that's a really really good post. I wish I would have written it! Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 I went to check out some '82 or '83 shows on Voodoonola's YouTube feed. And I came across this, Roosevelt Stadium, 8-4-76. The complete show in video, paired to the soundboard audio. I was there with all my friends, so of course I spent the night watching through the first set. I remember it well. Who the heck is Voodoonola and how does he/she gets access to these complete show videos? I may never know, but I am grateful! http://youtu.be/dhXCIrQsCxw Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 22, 2014 Author Share Posted February 22, 2014 I take it that was for the video screens or in house video monitors? Is that too early for video screens? Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 No, there were no video screens. By my count there are at least 3-4 cameras filming. You can see one side stage of Jerry. I have a feeling thus was a John Scher production. Voodoonola has a bunch of full show videos from Scher produced GD/Garcia shows at the Capital, Roosevelt Stadium, etc. My daughter is good friends with his daughter, I'm going to see what I can find out. Sent from my Windows Phone using Tapatalk Link to post Share on other sites
Shug Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 Man, that's a really really good post. I wish I would have written it! Thanks! nice of you to say. Yeah I also wonder who that Voodoonola person is too. What a great thing he or she is doing, kinda like Charlie Miller remastering so many of the audio recordings on archive. It would be interesting to hear their backstories. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 22, 2014 Share Posted February 22, 2014 WOW!!!!!!!!!\ Link to post Share on other sites
Skian Posted February 23, 2014 Share Posted February 23, 2014 Man, don't miss '82 either, especially the Frost shows from 10/9 & 10/10!Frost Amp 10/10/82 great show! I was there. My all time favorite show in attendance Harvest time from Nor Cal. You can hear in the audience tapes. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Ordered this book yesterday after reading an excerpt on fb concerning Brent's death. Anybody read it yet (only came out a little over a week ago, I believe)? http://www.barnesandnoble.com/w/aces-back-to-back-scott-w-allen/1118597818?cm_mmc=googlepla-_-book_15to24-_-q000000633-_-9781478719434&cm_mmca2=pla&ean=9781478719434&isbn=9781478719434&r=1This thing's pretty good. Some stuff I hadn't heard/read before, more on the personal/behind-the-scenes level. Only skimmed it so far. Link to post Share on other sites
roadhse ma Posted February 24, 2014 Share Posted February 24, 2014 Ratdog w/ Steve Kimock on Guitar and Wasserman also playing in the band Are hitting Boston for 2I'm siping a beer and heading thereHoping for a good one Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Ratdog w/ Steve Kimock on Guitar and Wasserman also playing in the bandAre hitting Boston for 2I'm siping a beer and heading thereHoping for a good oneI am catching them next month in Chicago. If you don't mind, I wouldn't mind to read your thoughts on the show. I heard one show from this tour - sounded nice. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 I'll be catching them opening for the Avetts at Red Rocks in July. Mike Gordon sat in with Ratdog last night, too..... Link to post Share on other sites
suites Posted February 25, 2014 Share Posted February 25, 2014 Looks like I'm going to see Dark Star Orchestra tonight in Ft. Lauderdale. Anyone down is SoFl wants to tailgate before on hang...let me know Link to post Share on other sites
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