The Inside of Outside Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Couldn't agree more - I always thought the Dylan and the Dead collaboration was a train wreck, except for "Joey". They put some life into that one (and it already had some good life in it). Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Queen Jane is ok, pretty close to the Dead's arrangement. The rehearsal tapes are where all the good stuff is. Man of Peace, Boy in the Bubble. Link to post Share on other sites
i'm only sleeping Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I suppose this is a joke isn't it? https://www.facebook.com/Deadheadland/posts/10153901192221303 Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I suppose this is a joke isn't it? https://www.facebook.com/Deadheadland/posts/10153901192221303 That's awesome! RE: earlier posts...I definitely need this book So Many Roads. I didn't know anything about the '84 recording sessions. I assume it would've been most of the stuff that ended up on In The Dark plus Day Job. I agree about artists being infantile. Definitely Neil Young. If he had a real producer his last 10 years' output may have resulted in 2 good albums rather than 10 almost absolutely unlistenable ones. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Speaking of '84 (not a strong year, imo):http://www.jambase.com/article/phil-lesh-friends-pay-tribute-to-1984-grateful-dead-at-terrapin-crossroads Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Has anyone seen a show at Phil's club? It looks nice -- bet is sounds great, too. Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 That's awesome! RE: earlier posts...I definitely need this book So Many Roads. I didn't know anything about the '84 recording sessions. I assume it would've been most of the stuff that ended up on In The Dark plus Day Job. I agree about artists being infantile. Definitely Neil Young. If he had a real producer his last 10 years' output may have resulted in 2 good albums rather than 10 almost absolutely unlistenable ones.Lanois is a great producer, and I love Le Noise, but otherwise agree. Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Has anyone seen a show at Phil's club? It looks nice -- bet is sounds great, too.I was in town for a conference, and stopped by to check it out. Cool place on the harbor. Phil's son's band was playing, and Phil was hanging out. Pretty weird to see him walking around and socializing. I just missed a sit in by Trey by 15 minutes, who was in town for rehearsals. It would be cool to see Phil play there, but they don't give much advance notice for the shows he plays, so it's hard to plan a trip for out of towners. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 "The Maker" = my favorite JGB cover.... Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Lanois is a great producer, and I love Le Noise, but otherwise agree.Yeah, I may have over stated things a bit. I agree, I love Lanois too and do think most of that album is good. I saw that tour and it was great!"The Maker" = my favorite JGB cover....Yes! Link to post Share on other sites
Oil Can Boyd Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Speaking of '84 (not a strong year, imo):http://www.jambase.com/article/phil-lesh-friends-pay-tribute-to-1984-grateful-dead-at-terrapin-crossroadsNot a great year but that Augusta show they played was pretty awesome. One of my favorite shows that I attended. Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 "The Maker" = my favorite JGB cover....A lot of people have covered that one over the years, from Willie Nelson (used at the end of Slingblade), to Emmy Lou, to Dave Matthews (yikes), but Jerry's is the best. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 A lot of people have covered that one over the years, from Willie Nelson (used at the end of Slingblade), to Emmy Lou, to Dave Matthews (yikes), but Jerry's is the best.Yep. Love the Willie version and the Dave Matthews/Tim Reynolds version, too:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vpVxLQv-IT8 And, Emmylou has the perfect voice for the song.... Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Not a great year but that Augusta show they played was pretty awesome. One of my favorite shows that I attended. Some vids from that era show Jerry looking filthy. Was he showering? Maybe I'm not remembering correctly. 82-84 are interesting years to me. It's amazing that not more than two years before they recorded the stellar Reckoning only to have Garcia's voice and stage presence change so much. He was only 40! Luckily the guitar playing didn't really get too bad until close to end. At least to my ears. Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 Recently read an interview with Garcia from the mid-80's, Guitar Player I think. The interviewer describes Garcia's prodigious body odor, burnt fingers, and white powder covering his shirt. Garcia then proceeds to break up a giant coke rock and blow some massive rails during the interview. Great interview. Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I think that interview was in the Frets magazine. Lots of white stuff on that shirt -- very sad -- but you are right, great interview and he sounds chipper. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 I don't see anything great about that. Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted February 24, 2016 Share Posted February 24, 2016 I am talking about the interview being great -- not the picture or the time period when it was taken. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 24, 2016 Author Share Posted February 24, 2016 I figured. Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Garcia really didn't give a shit. Love the part of that interview where he talks shit about Eddie Van Halen. Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 I must admit, I laughed out loud at that description of the interview. I saw most of my shows between 82-84, when Garcia was in dire straits, but I thought the shows were all great. Didn't really have anything to compare them to, of course...and I was somewhat impaired myself at all of those, so... Listening to all the Dead shows I've downloaded over the years but haven't gotten to yet...I've got about 50 or 60 of them, I think, ranging from a shitload of '69 shows all the way up through a handful of '80s shows. Working through the 3/28/72 show, which I think is the last American show of that run right before Europe. Not too much to differentiate this show from anything else from the same time period, but the Looks Like Rain has that beautiful work from Jer on pedal steel, and the Big RR Blues is pretty fierce. We'll see what else it reveals... Link to post Share on other sites
Vacant Horizon Posted February 25, 2016 Share Posted February 25, 2016 Recently read an interview with Garcia from the mid-80's, Guitar Player I think. The interviewer describes Garcia's prodigious body odor, burnt fingers, and white powder covering his shirt. Garcia then proceeds to break up a giant coke rock and blow some massive rails during the interview. Great interview.That sounds interesting. I remember watching an 84 video and close ups of Garcia's fingers showed so much dirt under his nails. It's interesting how the band talks about the final years and pre coma, but not this era where it seems he was on a 3 year bender. Tragic. Link to post Share on other sites
The Inside of Outside Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I think that interview was in the Frets magazine. Lots of white stuff on that shirt -- very sad -- but you are right, great interview and he sounds chipper. I'd be pretty chipper too if I broke up a giant coke rock and blew some massive rails during the interview. Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 The thing about that first half of the 80s decade is this - Garcia looks like death warmed over, but DAMN if he didn't play like a demon in that period. Yeah, it could be sloppy, but when he was on he was REALLY ON. It's just amazing to me that a guy could be so fucking sick and yet play so well. Link to post Share on other sites
jw harding Posted February 26, 2016 Share Posted February 26, 2016 I'm about half way through the 80's on the 30 Trips box set. Really solidifying my dislike for the era. Weir really gravitated toward some lame covers in the 80's. What is the point of CC Rider? Is he trying to do an Elvis tribute? Other covers like Rooster, Promised Land, Beat It, El Paso are ok, but when you get 2 or more in a set it's overkill. Brent's organ added a nice sound, but otherwise don't care for his keyboard sounds, and his backing vocals. One exception would be Loser, which he helped make into a powerful, ferocious monster with the organ and vocals. Any other tunes standout in this era? Think I mentioned Shakedown before. Otherwise, 90's > 80's. Link to post Share on other sites
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