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I have a bit of bad luck history with the show that they dropped today: Jeff solo in Los Angeles February 2006. I made plans to have a family trip to hit up LA during the first week of February. It wa

Sometimes it pays off to be a night owl. I decided to check Nugs after midnight and was surprised to find that the 2008 Cain’s Ballroom show was added today. I don’t remember which songs from this sho

Looks like they skipped the September release, or did I miss something?

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September 6, 1998 - Promenade Park in Toledo, OH is the latest show. 
 

interesting to note that Casino Queen appears twice. I can’t see the show notes, so I’m not sure what happened there. According to Setlist FM, Casino Queen was only played once. 
 

edited to add info: Wilco’s FB post pointed out that they played Casino Queen twice at this festival show. Another dent in Setlist FM’s accuracy. 🙈

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1 hour ago, calvino said:

Wish Wilco would start adding more shows.

 

 

Yep, I second that! I miss the days when  Nugs would drop a new show every month, instead of the quarterly release plan that they’ve gone with. We won’t see another show again until the last day of November. Seems far, far away. 

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1 hour ago, Marijn said:

The inexplicable typo on the front cover makes you wonder how much effort they're really putting into these Nugs-releases...

 

Ha! - been listening to the show this morning and didn't notice that.

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On 8/31/2022 at 6:09 PM, u2roolz said:

Yep, I second that! I miss the days when  Nugs would drop a new show every month, instead of the quarterly release plan that they’ve gone with. We won’t see another show again until the last day of November. Seems far, far away. 

We'll have to cross our fingers that it starts to pick up, as they've apparently put the kibosh on audience taping... :hmm

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9 hours ago, opsopcopolis said:

We'll have to cross our fingers that it starts to pick up, as they've apparently put the kibosh on audience taping... :hmm

 

Did Wilco make the 'no taping policy', official?  

 

 

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That's interesting. I don't see it on their website anywhere.  Maybe that was just for a certain show. It would be nice if they put out something official on their website or Facebook page.

 

 

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Yeah - something official would be great. Be a shame if they totally got rid of it.

 

It's not like they ever had an official taping section/area or anything --- so I guess they never had an official taping policy, other than - one could tape if they wanted to. (Maybe they did have an official taping policy and I missed it).

 

I just know when my buddy asked Jeff for permission to tape a show at Lounge Ax in the 90's - he just covered his ears and tilted his head from side to side and walked away. From then on, we assumed that was official taping policy.

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Here it is - does not appear on their website - but link is still active:

 

Wilco Taping Policy
Wilco official site->Shows->Photo and Taping Policies

 

  1. . Wilco does permit audio taping and trading of live performances wherever it does not conflict with venue or other restrictions beyond our control. We do not allow direct soundboard patches. Wilco supports the free trading of live recordings for non-commercial purposes. We do not allow filming or video of any type without prior written permission.

 

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There you go --  Now I do remember reading that.  

 

Wonder who is driving the new 'no taping policy' --- it's not like their record company can get a record  physically out in a timely manner. They are not uploading shows on Nugs, too often. Perhaps the Roadcase people? I never believed that audience recorded shows hurt concert attendance - actually I always thought it helped to promote actual attendance. 

 

If I were Wilco - I would keep the taping policy unchanged - so at least their music can get out there in a timely manner for those who want to hear it. 

 

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Wilco also have banned all cameras, again. Beginning with the 2010 Evening With tour they banned all cameras including non-detachable lens point and shoots, even though in 2009 it was still permissible to enter with a DSLR and 50mm or smaller lens. Then, with the rise of smartphones, it seemed that they gave up on enforcing the No Photo policy, and point and shoot cameras were allowed again around 2014.

At New Haven I was not allowed to bring in a small point and shoot camera. The security guy's boss said it was the band's policy, and that even cheap disposable film cameras are not allowed. I asked if they were OK with people taking photos and videos on smartphones and he said "We can't do anything about that". And, of course, people did take photos and videos on their smart phones all night. So, why ban one and not the other?

 

So it seems the band have had a philosophical change of mind about these things, perhaps due in part with bringing on their new management team. Disappointing, for sure.

The New Haven Roadcase sounds fantastic! I am glad to be able to relive the one show that I attended on the August tour. I look forward to listening to the SSF sets next.

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On 9/9/2022 at 8:11 AM, Analogman said:

I have to wonder what the reason is for changing the policy. 

 

Maybe someone here can find out.

 

 

Didn't mean to drop that tidbit and disappear... There's been a bunch of discussion about it on a pretty active taper forum. I was specifically told no by Stan in SLC last fall, he said the promoter said no and assumed they'd be putting out recordings of the whole tour because of it (none have come out so far...) Few others were able to get in over the course of that tour so not entirely sure what was going on there. 

 

About a month ago somebody reached out to Wilco management and were specifically told taping is no longer allowed. I believe they asked Stan at a show and was told that while Stan and the touring crew fought hard for taping, the band basically didn't care, and new management gave a hard no. 

 

Honestly pretty disappointing to see a band that was soooo open to tapers have a complete reversal. I can only hope that they start putting out everything as roadcase/nugs releases, but I'm not holding my breath seeing how inconsistent they've been.

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How much can they actually make off of selling live shows by way of another company (I am guessing the company takes a cut)?

 

Plus it would be nice if they put out something official on one of their websites or whatever. 

 

It does seem odd after all this time. 

 

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1 minute ago, Analogman said:

How much can they actually make off of selling live shows by way of another company (I am guessing the company takes a cut)?

 

Plus it would be nice if they put out something official on one of their websites or whatever. 

 

It does seem odd after all this time. 

 

I'm not sure exactly how the financials work with nugs, but I also doubt that audience recordings would really make a dent in official recording sales. Even as a taper I still buy every show I see when the recordings are released. 

 

Sadly, taping policies on band websites have generally disappeared. Policies are passed through word of mouth or email with management these days. 

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Aha - I guess they are thinking all the people who grab AUD shows will buy the shows now. 

 

Thanks for the information. 

 

We will still see shows up at bt.etree.org/Dime a Dozen/The Traders' Den unless someone officially changes the policy for Wilco at those sites. 

 

 

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I did not know that. I guess these things have a 20 year life span. I've been on there for 16 years this month. It's the one place people started posting SBDs once Dime a Dozen cracked down on Wilco's no SBDs policy. OF course lately - it was just someone posting the same old shows we already have over and over again.

 

 

 

 

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