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#41 jw harding

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Posted 05 March 2018 - 06:27 PM

Saw acoustic Hot Tuna do Operator a few years back. Think Jorma covered it on a recent album. So, kinda similar to the Bob and Phil thing. Tuna's version made me realize that the music to Operator is basically a rip off musically of Fishin Blues, the traditional popularized by Taj Mahal. Listen and compare. 

 

Have enjoyed the Phil and Bob stuff a lot so far, nice review in Rolling Stone that captures the magic and misses pretty well. Think the set with Trey finally delivered on the hope that never came through at Fare Thee Well. When they opened up that Jack Straw, I felt a tingle go up my leg.



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Posted 06 March 2018 - 03:12 PM

Here's Bob and Phil (and friend) in NYC. 2nd set from 3/3.

 



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Posted 06 March 2018 - 03:26 PM

Here's Bob and Phil (and friend) in Boston. 2nd set from 3/3.

 

I enjoyed it, even if some of it was sloppy ("Cassidy," comes to mind). This is from RCMH, btw ;)



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Posted 06 March 2018 - 03:34 PM

I enjoyed it, even if some of it was sloppy ("Cassidy," comes to mind). This is from RCMH, btw ;)

The singing is especially rough, but I'm enjoying the playing. Fixed the locale. 



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Posted 06 March 2018 - 03:57 PM

I enjoyed it, even if some of it was sloppy ("Cassidy," comes to mind). This is from RCMH, btw ;)

 

The Wheel was a bit of a train wreck, too, with Trey's vocal flub. Thought it sound good overall, though. 

 

Has Phil or Bobby played there, since 80? I think the 80 run was the only time the Dead played there.



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Posted 06 March 2018 - 04:03 PM

Definitely some sloppy unpracticed parts, but still really like the performance. Nice vibe. Liked it enough to snatch a ticket for this Thursday. 



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Posted 06 March 2018 - 04:04 PM

The Wheel was a bit of a train wreck, too, with Trey's vocal flub. Thought it sound good overall, though. 

 

Has Phil or Bobby played there, since 80? I think the 80 run was the only time the Dead played there.

I don't think any of them have been back in there to play in any form since Oct. '80.



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Posted 06 March 2018 - 05:10 PM

I don't think any of them have been back in there to play in any form since Oct. '80.

 

I didn't think so - pretty cool that they got to play there again after all these years.



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Posted 06 March 2018 - 07:03 PM

Pretty sure there was a Furthur show or two at RCMH. I recall some show a few years back where Elvis Costello, Diana Krall, and Larry Campbell sat in for a song or two. Maybe that was somewhere else?

 

Agreed on the rough spots during these shows, particularly with the vocals, but they have been more endearing than detracting. They started to flub the second verse of Dark Star, but Bob had a nice recovery and made a change that seemed to suit the psychedelic non-linear nature of the tune. Also don't particularly enjoy Bob singing the big Jerry ballads, but liked that Standing on the Moon. The echo effect on his vocal worked well, rather than him attempting to emulate Jerry's howls. Think Trey sang that at Fare Thee Well, but glad Bob took it. 



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Posted 07 March 2018 - 04:12 PM

Nice live 1970 compilation on reddit by some knowledgeable folks if anyone is interested:

 

https://t.co/IetqriQftv



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Posted 07 March 2018 - 07:06 PM

Hope to stream some on Scope tonight from Boston round 8:15

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Posted 08 March 2018 - 08:24 AM

The singing is especially rough, but I'm enjoying the playing. Fixed the locale. 

Here's what I wrote about Bobby not even five years ago, when he opened the AmericanaramA tour:

 

"Bob Weir was great. The man can still command a stage, even with just an acoustic guitar. Very surprised by how hard he pushed himself vocally, and it was crystal clear." He was belting out blues standards like Howlin' Wolf, and could still hit the high notes on his own songs.

 

Now I feel actual physical discomfort watching/listening to him sing. The decline over the last five years is heartbreaking. I was always a Jerry guy, but I like ol' Bob, too, so it's hard to see. I hope he and Phil are enjoying themselves, but in a way, I also hope they hang it up after this. It's time to take the car keys away. I know not everyone will agree, but I couldn't sit through it.



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Posted 08 March 2018 - 09:11 AM

Now I feel actual physical discomfort watching/listening to him sing. The decline over the last five years is heartbreaking. I was always a Jerry guy, but I like ol' Bob, too, so it's hard to see. I hope he and Phil are enjoying themselves, but in a way, I also hope they hang it up after this. It's time to take the car keys away. I know not everyone will agree, but I couldn't sit through it.

 

He can still play though. He should just hand over the singing duties. 



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Posted 08 March 2018 - 09:30 AM

I haven't watched more than a song here or there, but several friends who have been at these shows have all been floored by Weir's acoustic guitar playing.  I'll get to check it out first hand tonight. 



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Posted 08 March 2018 - 11:26 AM

Who are they gonna get to sing? Mickey and Donna?



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Posted 08 March 2018 - 12:43 PM

Who are they gonna get to sing? Mickey and Donna?

I saw Donna singing with a band a bunch of years ago (Stir Fried? JGB (Melvin's band)? and she sounded great.



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Posted 08 March 2018 - 01:11 PM

Ratdog played radio city

Jam > Shakedown Street > Help on the Way > Slipknot! > She Says, Weather Report Suite Prelude/Part 1 > Let It Grow, A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall@, Lazy River Road@ > Odessa > Book of Rules, Cassidy > Stuff* > Dear Prudence > Two Djinn > Slipknot! > Franklin's Tower
E: Attics of My Life+
*-with Michael Travis (Drums); "Attics" a capella; Stuff - Jeff/Jay/Kenny > Jeff/Jay/Kenny/Robin > Jeff/Jay/Kenny/Robin/Travis > all/Travis
(with String Cheese Incident [RD closed])

Jam > Casey Jones, Minglewood Blues > She Belongs to Me, Brown-Eyed Women, Crazy Fingers, Big Iron@, Victim or the Crime@, Uncle John's Band > The Other One > Stuff > Sugaree > Throwing Stones > Liberty*
E: Black Muddy River*
*-with The Persuasions (Vocals); "Black Muddy" a capalla; Kenny sat in with SCI on "Shine on You Crazy Diamond," then the whole band besides Robin sat in on "Jam > I Know You Rider"
(with String Cheese Incident [SCI closed])


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Posted 08 March 2018 - 02:29 PM

I saw Donna singing with a band a bunch of years ago (Stir Fried? JGB (Melvin's band)? and she sounded great.

Yes, saw Donna with Zero about 12 years ago and she was fine. Just think without Bobby you're pretty much out of lead singers.



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Posted 08 March 2018 - 02:32 PM

 

Ratdog played radio city

Jam > Shakedown Street > Help on the Way > Slipknot! > She Says, Weather Report Suite Prelude/Part 1 > Let It Grow, A Hard Rain's A-Gonna Fall@, Lazy River Road@ > Odessa > Book of Rules, Cassidy > Stuff* > Dear Prudence > Two Djinn > Slipknot! > Franklin's Tower
E: Attics of My Life+
*-with Michael Travis (Drums); "Attics" a capella; Stuff - Jeff/Jay/Kenny > Jeff/Jay/Kenny/Robin > Jeff/Jay/Kenny/Robin/Travis > all/Travis
(with String Cheese Incident [RD closed])

Jam > Casey Jones, Minglewood Blues > She Belongs to Me, Brown-Eyed Women, Crazy Fingers, Big Iron@, Victim or the Crime@, Uncle John's Band > The Other One > Stuff > Sugaree > Throwing Stones > Liberty*
E: Black Muddy River*
*-with The Persuasions (Vocals); "Black Muddy" a capalla; Kenny sat in with SCI on "Shine on You Crazy Diamond," then the whole band besides Robin sat in on "Jam > I Know You Rider"
(with String Cheese Incident [SCI closed])

 

 

Furthur did 3 shows at Radio City in 2011. Speaking of, guessing Chicago may get a sit in from John K at the upcoming duo shows. No rumors I've heard, but if I had to wager. Some people would be happy/unhappy if that were to come true.



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Posted 08 March 2018 - 03:37 PM

He can still play though. He should just hand over the singing duties. 

 

Unfortunately, Phil hasn't been as good as Bobby since...well, ever!

 

Who are they gonna get to sing? Mickey and Donna?

 

Good point.

 

Back in the day, when Jerry declined so badly, Bobby's singing kinda made up for that. And Jerry's playing kinda made up for the cheese factor Bobby sometimes brought. 

I'd be able to handle it better if Weir's vocals were gravelly and harsh, but he sounds - and looks - frail. Old age can be very unkind in this business.







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