a.miller Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Country music for Democrats. This is the best thing I've heard this week. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 You Maniacs! You blew it up! Ah, damn you! God damn you all to hell! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 stretch that even further to include whiskeytownActually it includes tons of artists on Bloodshot, New West and a whole host of folks who play roots connected rock, country, bluegrass, rockabilly, etc. If you read No Depression you know alt.country is hardly dead, there are thousands of musicians out there trying their hands at it. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mjpuczko Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 oh yeah, there definitely is. i think there's been a huge resurgence of it lately. lucero, ryan's back into it, roadside graves, steve earle Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 oh yeah, there definitely is. i think there's been a huge resurgence of it lately. lucero, ryan's back into it, roadside graves, steve earleI agree...there are more hippies with cowboy hats than ever....it never went away.... LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
fortuneinmyhead Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 and hence this is what happens when journalists start pinning down bands as "genre x" or alt.country or whatever the ef. maybe alt.country is just skiffle with pedal steel guitars and western shirts Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted July 19, 2006 Share Posted July 19, 2006 Country music for Democrats.EXCELLENT!! you summed it up nicely there! If you were here,I'd buy ya a beer Quote Link to post Share on other sites
awatt Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Ok, a really dumb comment, but isn't alt country.....cock (I've always assumed that to mean a combo of Country and Rock, assuming that's what Jeff is alluding to in the IATTBYH movie? I also thought it was used in a rather limited fashion by Tweedy fans until I heard Pierce Bronson say it to Greg Kinnear in the film The Matador--but I digress). I have a feeling once again I'm way off the mark... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mjpuczko Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 cock = cool Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 It's what these bands use to be until they decided they were tired of being broke and wanted to make some money. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aricandover Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Ok, a really dumb comment, but isn't alt country.....cock (I've always assumed that to mean a combo of Country and Rock, assuming that's what Jeff is alluding to in the IATTBYH movie? go back and listen to Tweedy's story. cock was something he and his friends used to say when they were kids. it had nothing to do with music. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
BolivarBaLues Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 I know of the guy that wrote that article. Jesse Fox Mayshark is from my town and used to write for a local alternative weekly. He also participates regularly on a local message board. So reguarly that I wonder how he has any time to do his job or live a life outside of that stupid board. Anyway, my point is that I wouldn't take anything this guy has to say about music seriously. He's a good writer, but he's not a musician and admittely doesn't know shit about music. He has the musical taste of a 12-year-old girl. I'm serious. He regularly posts in a thread that lists what you've been listening to during the week, and he's into some stupid ass teenage shit. He was also affiliated with No Depression in some capacity and last year posted a top 20 (or some equivalent) all-time "alt. country" album list. Guess what? Not one Wilco record in the bunch. I've been 'round and 'round with him on that board about Wilco, and he has a real problem with them that I just don't understand. In fact, he once said that Gwen Stefani's "Hollaback Girl" was a much more credible music (or some such shit) than anything Wilco's ever done. His reasoning was that it was more credible in terms of modern culture. Yeah, if you're a 12-year-old girl. He tends to value music based on what effect it has on culture. How about on the merits of its own musicality? Who gives a flip about its "cultural impact?" Just because you can write doesn't qualify you to write about music. He even admitted on that local message board that this was a "rush piece." In his own words: started out as just a jayhawks piece, morphed into something a little broader. written in a hurry. ok, i'll stop making excuses. So yeah, I don't pay anything he has to say about music any mind. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 And remember, The New York Times said God is dead once. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Alisa Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 I have no idea what Trad Rock is...who made that up?Although the sound of American Trad Rock is quite different than that of its British counterpart, it shares the same aesthetic -- namely, it is dedicated to keeping the sound and the spirit of classic '60s rock alive. Where British trad rock relies on the Beatles and mod influences, American trad rock is about Southern-fried boogie and blues-based improvisation. The Grateful Dead and the Allman Brothers were the twin precursors of American trad rock, even though there are hints of the Stones and the Faces thrown in every once in a while as well. The very first U.S. trad rockers -- the Georgia Satellites and the Black Crowes -- appeared in the mid- to late '80s and had grown out of roots rock. By the early '90s, American trad rock had begun to take shape as Allman soundalikes like Widespread Panic began cultivating followings, and by the middle of the decade, there was a loose collective of similar-minded, neo-Dead bands (Blues Traveler, Phish) that had built a fanbase by touring constantly. Blues Traveler had these bands tour under the H.O.R.D.E. moniker, and by 1996 the travelling festival was rivaling its alternative counterpart, Lollapalooza, in popularity.All Music Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kicking_Television Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Me too.....I have no idea what Trad Rock is...who made that up? AAA is basically Americana, whatever the fuck it is... The death of alt.country is so boring....just like everything else, few music genres ever die, they just morph and change and hang around. Every few years some publication comes out with Rock is dead, rock is back, country is dead country is back, jazz is dead, jazz is back, blues is dead, blues is back...blah blah blah... LouieB yea usually reserved for slow music news days, i think they actually have templates they use and just change the genre name and obscure references Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 yea usually reserved for slow music news days, i think they actually have templates they use and just change the genre name and obscure referencesActually one would think that the release of a new Golden Smog album would be indicate the longevity of all these artists no matter what their so called genre is. Most of the associated members of Golden Smog could have faded into obsurity by now, but in fact all of them have either prospered or at least survived despite some rather trying times. If anything, twangy music with punk roots is far healthier today than one would have imagined 10 years ago. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Jules Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 Country music for Democrats. I'm not a Democrat, and I'm starting to feel lonely around here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 I'm not a Democrat, and I'm starting to feel lonely around here.Good thing you missed the arguments during the 2004 election then. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted July 20, 2006 Share Posted July 20, 2006 I'm not a Democrat, and I'm starting to feel lonely around here."Wilco is for all who have the ears to appreciate." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
awatt Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 "Wilco is for all who have the ears to appreciate." Amen to that, brother! Why in quotes? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Theatrical effect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
awatt Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 Ah. Love it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jethro Posted July 21, 2006 Share Posted July 21, 2006 "Wilco is for all who have the ears to appreciate."Just don't ask Jeff what he thinks about this guy: That shits just classic, wtf was that dumbass thinking?! Anyway, to the point of the article, like some other people said alt-country was on the way out 10 years ago. I can think of lots of records I like in that genre before 1998 or so but the bands that made them either moved on to other styles or broke up (or started sucking). Even Being There was cited by a lot of people as a move away from that sound, though I tend to think of it more as the best of the genre. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
anodyne Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 lucero's newest record is pretty much rock and much less country (which is a bit of a bummer). drag the river's latest is very good alt-country. labels exist to give rock journalists something to hang their hat on. they do nothing for the music. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beltmann Posted July 24, 2006 Share Posted July 24, 2006 labels exist to give rock journalists something to hang their hat on. they do nothing for the music.Labels may not do anything for the music, true, but I would say labels--even the most vague, generalized, or unfair ones--exist mostly to help listeners discuss the music, by providing common reference points. Case in point: lucero's newest record is pretty much rock and much less country (which is a bit of a bummer). drag the river's latest is very good alt-country. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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