Wilco Worshipper Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 My mom still doesn't let me see R-rated movies. I still can't say minor bad words such as shit/damn or omg in front of my mother...seriously Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beltmann Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I still can't say minor bad words such as shit/damn or omg in front of my mother...seriouslyMy mother hasn't yet recovered from the years-ago discovery that I vote Democrat--if I dropped the F-bomb on her, she'd probably blow up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
quarter23cd Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 We need to be proactive in letting parents (and movie theaters) know how much we hate them forcing their kids to see extremely violent films. I'm okay with telling parents how to raise their children, if they're being idiotsSee, maybe its just me, but even as much as I agree with the overall sentiment here, something about statements like this completely rub me the wrong way. "Calm the fuck down" was my first reaction, quite honestly. Which is weird because, after stopping to think about it, I most certainly would never bring my kids to that kind of movie, and I would most definitely have a serious "WTF?" moment if I was at a theater for a movie like that and found myself surrounded by kids. Absolutely, that would be all kinds of messed up. And still, even with all of that being said, there's something in the self-righteousness of this rant which completely annoys the shit outta me, for some reason. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Moltisanti Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Poltergeirst was PG, I'm pretty sure. It was one of the films that helped to create the PG-13 rating, IIRC. My mom dragged me to the drive-in to see The Omen when I was like seven. That music still gets to me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reni Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 my 13 year old has been interested in scary movies for a few years - I know it is the attraction of what she isn't supposed to watch. However, I have always given in on some movies like The Others and other movies that offer suspense, a little jump and stuff here and there. In the last couple years I have gotten more and more lenient with what I let her watch - and sometimes she sees stuff at friends' houses, like The Exorcist (which I told her she could see once she got to high school). However, these torture flicks are just beyond the pale for me......and she knows my disgust and issues with them. This, too, likely makes them more appealing to her. The other day she said she wanted to see Hostel II and I said - NO WAY - I then went on to say that I didn't have an issue with scary movies that have plot, suspense, even a little silliness like the old 80's horror flicks, etc - but these movies filled with abuse and torture just seemed unnecessary, mindless and disgusting. She then said, "well that's what I like mom!" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
DrNo Posted June 13, 2007 Author Share Posted June 13, 2007 my 13 year old has been interested in scary movies for a few years - I know it is the attraction of what she isn't supposed to watch. However, I have always given in on some movies like The Others and other movies that offer suspense, a little jump and stuff here and there. In the last couple years I have gotten more and more lenient with what I let her watch - and sometimes she sees stuff at friends' houses, like The Exorcist (which I told her she could see once she got to high school). However, these torture flicks are just beyond the pale for me......and she knows my disgust and issues with them. This, too, likely makes them more appealing to her. The other day she said she wanted to see Hostel II and I said - NO WAY - I then went on to say that I didn't have an issue with scary movies that have plot, suspense, even a little silliness like the old 80's horror flicks, etc - but these movies filled with abuse and torture just seemed unnecessary, mindless and disgusting. She then said, "well that's what I like mom!" these kids today... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Beltmann Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I believe in the validity of the horror film, but this recent trend in torture porn is a little troubling... it generally feels like we're meant to enjoy the violence, which means we're asked to identify with the killers rather than with the victims. They aren't about exploring fear; instead, they celebrate sadism. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reni Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I also have to add that showing this stuff to young kids, I believe, is abusive (as it was mentioned in the article) Children process things very differently than adults and to be exposed to this sort of violence at such a young age - without the skills or mental capacity to separate fantasy from reality - is a very distressing thing. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tongue-tied lightning Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 hang in there Kate, Em will turn around Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 They aren't about exploring fear; instead, they celebrate sadism. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mrs. Peel Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 my 13 year old has been interested in scary movies for a few years - I know it is the attraction of what she isn't supposed to watch. However, I have always given in on some movies like The Others and other movies that offer suspense, a little jump and stuff here and there. In the last couple years I have gotten more and more lenient with what I let her watch - and sometimes she sees stuff at friends' houses, like The Exorcist (which I told her she could see once she got to high school). However, these torture flicks are just beyond the pale for me......and she knows my disgust and issues with them. This, too, likely makes them more appealing to her. The other day she said she wanted to see Hostel II and I said - NO WAY - I then went on to say that I didn't have an issue with scary movies that have plot, suspense, even a little silliness like the old 80's horror flicks, etc - but these movies filled with abuse and torture just seemed unnecessary, mindless and disgusting. She then said, "well that's what I like mom!" I stopped reading after "my 13 year old"....is she really that old already???? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 Ahh, endtimes. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I grew up watching Chiller Theatre.I'm guessing you watched the Pittsburgh one, but here's some trivia for ya (you probably know this already): the host of the NYC Chiller Theatre, Zacherley, is the dude on the 2/14/70 Fillmore East show that introduces the band--"The Grateful Goddamn Dead!!" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
marino13 Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I went to the 9:30 showing of Knocked Up last night and there were two little kids just a couple of rows ahead of me. I tried not to pay attention because I wanted to enjoy the movie, but it did rub me the wrong way. As a father of a 3 yr old, I wouldn't dream of taking my kid to a movie like that, and to the parents who take their kids to Hostel, you need a kick in the fucking head. On a lighter note, Knocked Up is a great movie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EL the Famous Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I saw movie poster for that on one of those rotating ad things at the fucking MALL the other day. i'm a huge horror movie fan and, while i agree w/ Beltmann and Kate to some extent on the recent foray into 'torture' based horror...movies like that have been around for ages (Texas Chainsaw as one example)and i saw plenty of them in high school/college...i'm fine. again, it comes down to being able to discern it's not acceptable ways of behaving (understatement) and that it doesn't play in reality. that said, back to the original topic, anybody who exposes their kids to that same type of film is both stupid AND selfish. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 However, these torture flicks are just beyond the pale for me......and she knows my disgust and issues with them. This, too, likely makes them more appealing to her. The other day she said she wanted to see Hostel II and I said - NO WAY - I then went on to say that I didn't have an issue with scary movies that have plot, suspense, even a little silliness like the old 80's horror flicks, etc - but these movies filled with abuse and torture just seemed unnecessary, mindless and disgusting. She then said, "well that's what I like mom!" Thats basically how I feel about the Hostel movies. I got into a big debate with my friend who says that I'm closeminded for saying that I dislike these torture movies outright. I came back with the old "I'm sorry I don't like seeing people's achilles tendons being cut off". Hostel part 1 was absolutely awful. Seriously. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
darkstar Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I'm guessing you watched the Pittsburgh one, but here's some trivia for ya (you probably know this already): the host of the NYC Chiller Theatre, Zacherley, is the dude on the 2/14/70 Fillmore East show that introduces the band--"The Grateful Goddamn Dead!!" "I want to wish you alllllll a happppppy valentinesssssss dayyyyyyyy" "I was gonna come down the isle in a casket but the damn thing broke" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I recall the original ad campaign for that Captivity movie included a poster of her suffocating underground - and it was banned. So, her nose being shredded by a hook is acceptable? Okay. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
OOO Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 the billboard in that picture got taken down, partly in thanks to Joss Whedon (creator of Buffy/Angel, and Firefly). He wrote a blog post about it here: clicky After they received tons of complaints about it, the studio claimed it was an error at their printing company , and that the ad campaign was never authorized by executives. They replaced it with signs that said "Captivity was here", sort of thumbing their noses at the campaigners and trying to say "we're so edgy our posters got taken down" Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Wilco Worshipper Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 My mother hasn't yet recovered from the years-ago discovery that I vote Democrat--if I dropped the F-bomb on her, she'd probably blow up. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JUDE Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I don't see what the big deal is, I saw the Evil Dead films as a youth and other than my fixation on trying to figure out how to mount a chainsaw to my right arm, I'm pretty well adjusted. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 That first Evil Dead movie is pretty fucked up. I'm not sure a 5 year old should be watching that. I mean, tree rape. Thats just not right. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I recall the original ad campaign for that Captivity movie included a poster of her suffocating underground - and it was banned. So, her nose being shredded by a hook is acceptable? Okay. sexy vs. sexist, yada yada yada... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Reni Posted June 13, 2007 Share Posted June 13, 2007 I saw movie poster for that on one of those rotating ad things at the fucking MALL the other day. i'm a huge horror movie fan and, while i agree w/ Beltmann and Kate to some extent on the recent foray into 'torture' based horror...movies like that have been around for ages (Texas Chainsaw as one example)and i saw plenty of them in high school/college...i'm fine. again, it comes down to being able to discern it's not acceptable ways of behaving (understatement) and that it doesn't play in reality. that said, back to the original topic, anybody who exposes their kids to that same type of film is both stupid AND selfish. I am not a huge fan of the Texas Chainsaw Massacre, etc genre of the 70s and 80s......however, I have seen the old one and the "new" one and the new one is a lot more graphic, sexualized, etc. I really think there is a difference between the slasher movies of old and the sadistic torture movies that are flooding the market these days. It seems a step further to me. And in the days of our own government arguing about what constitutes torture and what is acceptable torture - it all seems a little too closely connected and scary for my liking. And yes- Jen - Emily is indeed 13. I know. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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