Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 You are right - I forgot that one.There is no way you can tell me that Human Touch/Lucky Town/Born In The U.$.A./Tunnel Of Love/The Rising are as good as the earlier stuff. Tunnel of Love is masterful Human Touch was torpedoed by the production (good songs on there) Lucky Town is very good Born in the USA and The Rising are inseparable from their back storys and the rampant hype. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 I have to say I disagree with that deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
cryptique Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 In my opinion, Tunnel of Love is fantastic, though it has a bit of filler. Nebraska is a masterpiece. The Ghost of Tom Joad is good (though not great). I've not heard Devils & Dust. I don't have much use for anything else Springsteen's done since The River. I thought The Rising was pretty awful, and Human Touch and Lucky Town bored me so much that I sold them to a used CD store (something I rarely do). Born in the U.S.A. had some decent tunes, but I hated the production, especially the keyboards -- for the first time, that huge band sounded like overkill, which they had somehow avoided until then. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Basil II Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 IBorn in the U.S.A. had some decent tunes, but I hated the production, especially the keyboards -- for the first time, that huge band sounded like overkill, which they had somehow avoided until then. Ever hear the Nebraska demos-(Alone In Colt's Neck)??? simply wow! -Robert. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
farva Posted August 20, 2007 Share Posted August 20, 2007 He hasn't played [Rosalita] but once in the last several tours. Not sure what last several tours you are including, but I must've seen that one as they played it in Milwaukee when I saw them in 2003 ... 'twas fun. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Not sure what last several tours you are including, but I must've seen that one as they played it in Milwaukee when I saw them in 2003 ... 'twas fun. I just remember the furor over fans holding up signs requesting Rosalita and Bruce's almost pathological reaction to them during the Rising tour. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 I have to say I disagree with that deal. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
W(TF) Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Hey Nerdy; just wanted to clarify, I didn't mean respect us "because we're your elders" or any such BS. I just meant give us some credit as intelligent music fans. That's all....back to your regular sked. Oh yeah-- Ghost Of Tom Joad is an imperfect, but nevertheless amazing record. One of Bruce's most significant releases. Very much in the vein of Nebraska and very nearly its' equal... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Hey Nerdy; just wanted to clarify, I didn't mean respect us "because we're your elders" or any such BS. I just meant give us some credit as intelligent music fans. That's all....back to your regular sked.Oh yeah-- Ghost Of Tom Joad is an imperfect, but nevertheless amazing record. One of Bruce's most significant releases. Very much in the vein of Nebraska and very nearly its' equal... I understand what you are saying, but I just feel like there was a bit too much hype for Modern Times. I listened to it a few times, and it wasn't much to write home about, and yet it was being talked about like it was a masterpiece. I just didn't care for it, and I thought it was more a product of it not being awful, and people having low expectations. Or not low expectations, but ratherbeing much more forgivable of it's flaws. If he released Modern Times in 1965, it would've been panned. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dmait Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 He played "Rosalita" nearly every show on the Rising Tour in August through October 2003. >I've definitely always wanted to see him. As long as he plays "Rosalita" I'll be happy. >He hasn't played that one but once in the last several tours. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
imsjry Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 I understand what you are saying, but I just feel like there was a bit too much hype for Modern Times. I listened to it a few times, and it wasn't much to write home about, and yet it was being talked about like it was a masterpiece. I just didn't care for it, and I thought it was more a product of it not being awful, and people having low expectations. Or not low expectations, but ratherbeing much more forgivable of it's flaws. If he released Modern Times in 1965, it would've been panned. I disagree with everything you said. I would hold Modern Times up to any of Dylan's 60's output. I think in many ways it may be the best thing he's done. "Spirit on the Water" is a stone cold classic imo. If "Magic" is half as good I'll be thrilled. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
W(TF) Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Or not low expectations, but ratherbeing much more forgivable of it's flaws. If he released Modern Times in 1965, it would've been panned. You're right; but keep in mind, everything Dylan did in '65 and '66 was panned-- if not by the critics, then certainly by the folk elite and by many of his early fans. He was harshly accused of selling out. And very wrongly as it turned out. The point being that he marches to his own drumbeat, always has. He's always said he makes the art for himself and not the audience. And he's talked about how impossible it is to write songs like those, check the Ed Bradley 60 Mins interview. At this stage in his career I think he's a lot more interested in staying in the scene (i.e. touring), keeping his bands employed, and making solid records occasionally.... than in impressing us with his songwriting prowess. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 People who don't like Modern Times are doofuses. That's how I rationalize things. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
W(TF) Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Yep....get back to me when you've written a song that compares to Nettie Moore, or Workingman Blues. I'll be happy to eat some crow. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 Yep....get back to me when you've written a song that compares to Nettie Moore, or Workingman Blues. I'll be happy to eat some crow. Nah, what I mean is, I love it. And I've just accepted that some don't. Ain't nothing wrong with it. So, I will just call them big dummyheads or doofuses and be done with. They don't have to write a song that compares to Nettie Moore for me to eat crow. Nettie Moore will still be a great song to me either way, and it won't be to them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
W(TF) Posted August 21, 2007 Share Posted August 21, 2007 I know...I didn't mean you. I meant "you", as in anyone who can do it. lol People seem to forget that [it] may not be the best Dylan (or Springsteen) song ever penned, but it's still a motherfucker. If they can even sit down and play & sing it convincingly, I'll be mighty impressed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Welsh Rich Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 Album cover: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 If you look closely, you can tell he's pissing on an American flag on the floor. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 He played "Rosalita" nearly every show on the Rising Tour in August through October 2003.>I've definitely always wanted to see him. As long as he plays "Rosalita" I'll be happy.>He hasn't played that one but once in the last several tours. My bad...checking Brucebase has definitely shown that I am incorrect on this point. However, I distinctly remember that he was most adamant about NOT playing it in the early stages of the tour. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
W(TF) Posted August 22, 2007 Share Posted August 22, 2007 If you look closely, you can tell he's pissing on an American flag on the floor. That's my Brucey. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
solace Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 first single, Radio Nowhere: http://www.mediafire.com/?5mnxjsjghl4 after a couple listens i dig it... nice little rocker Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tongue-tied lightning Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 take it away A man. Lets here yer review of the modern day Bruce. thumbs up ? or thumbs down Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Pearl Jam Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Album cover: Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tongue-tied lightning Posted August 24, 2007 Share Posted August 24, 2007 Pearl Jam ok, it sounds like PJ ? you like PJ ? you rather listen to PJ ? a few more words might help Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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