lost highway Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 After seeing Palin spew some news sources & Supreme Court decisons on tv yesterday..I got real pissed off. Is America gonna buy that shit? Debate camp? WTF? I saw a blog that said she was wearing an ear-piece for radioing info..... a little voice in her ear. They showed a screen shot of her right ear and it looked like something was in there, but you couldn't see very well. I wouldn't be surprised. It would be great if that was outed by the mainstream media, if it were true of course. Link to post Share on other sites
Party @ the Moontower Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 I saw a blog that said she was wearing an ear-piece for radioing info..... a little voice in her ear. They showed a screen shot of her right ear and it looked like something was in there, but you couldn't see very well. I wouldn't be surprised. It would be great if that was outed by the mainstream media, if it were true of course. Nice. Didn't Bush pull off some sort of device like that @ one of his debates against Kerry? I remember them showing a strange lump on his back. Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted October 4, 2008 Share Posted October 4, 2008 Well done, Letterman Link to post Share on other sites
Sal Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 After seeing Palin spew some news sources & Supreme Court decisons on tv yesterday..I got real pissed off. Is America gonna buy that shit? Debate camp? WTF? If they win will they have to send her to Vice President camp? She is a joke. McCain is going negative for the rest of the campaign, that's all he has left. Pathetic. Link to post Share on other sites
Edie Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 My husband and I make north of $100K. Here in chicago it never feels like enough. Link to post Share on other sites
austrya Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 My husband and I make north of $100K. Here in chicago it never feels like enough. We are a one income family with 4 kids and I think last year we made about $65K. We have enough left over each month to put in savings. We pretty much buy what we want, go out to eat, etc. We don't have any debt other than our house and cars. It's all relative to where you live. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Dear Gov. Palin, Bill Ayers is not a terrorist. Palin says Obama friendly with terrorists By Jason Szep 1 hour, 39 minutes ago ENGLEWOOD, Col., Oct 4 - Republican vice presidential nominee Sarah Palin accused Democratic candidate Barack Obama on Saturday of "palling around with terrorists," in the latest sign the campaign is turning increasingly nasty. The comment by Palin, whose running mate John McCain is vying against Obama for president in the November 4 election, was dismissed by the Obama campaign as "gutter politics" and came shortly after the McCain campaign had already called the U.S. senator from Illinois a liar. With polls showing McCain trailing Obama in many battleground states, including several won by Republicans in the 2004 election, Palin said "There is a time when it's necessary to take the gloves off and that time is right now." Speaking at a fund-raiser in Englewood, Colorado, she launched an assault on Obama just days after both candidates urged Congress to set aside partisan politics to pass a $700 billion bad-debt securities package in a bid to free up frozen credit markets. "Our opponent though is someone who sees America, it seems, as being so imperfect, imperfect enough that he is palling around with terrorists who would target their own country," Palin said of Obama, also calling him an embarrassment. Palin cited a New York Times story on Saturday that examined Obama's relationship with Bill Ayers, a former member of the Vietnam-era militant Weather Underground organization who is now a professor at the University of Illinois at Chicago. The Times concluded they were not close. Obama spokesman Hari Sevugan said, "Today, the McCain-Palin team took their discredited, dishonorable campaign one desperate step further, announcing that they were going to try 'turning a page on this financial crisis' and launching more personal attacks on Senator Obama." "Instead of offering solutions for working Americans and families struggling through a failing economy, they have offered more gutter politics and false attacks," he said in a statement. Obama served with Ayers on the board of a foundation in Chicago, and has said he was only eight-years-old when the Weather Underground committed its best-known bombing. He has also noted that former President Bill Clinton pardoned two members of the group during the last days of his presidency. Earlier, McCain's campaign called Obama a bald-faced liar in reference to how he characterized the Republican's plan to reform health insurance. "When you read the fine print, it's clear that John McCain is pulling an old Washington bait and switch. It's a shell game," Obama said of McCain's plan to reform health insurance. "He gives you a tax credit with one hand but he raises your taxes with the other," the senator from Illinois told a crowd of about 18,000 supporters in Newport News, Virginia. 'BALD-FACED LIE' McCain spokesman Tucker Bounds shot back, "Barack Obama is lying to voters. ... It's a bald-faced lie." After a week where congressional negotiations over the financial rescue package dominated the campaign, Obama had hoped to use his rally in Virginia to refocus the political discourse on health insurance and economic policy. Health insurance is an emotive issue, with some 45 million Americans living without coverage and others worried about losing coverage if they lose their jobs in the economic slump. Both campaigns say they will improve access to health insurance and make care more affordable. On Saturday, both campaigns derided the other's plan as "radical." The sharp exchanges came as the more than year-long campaign enters its last month. New polls show Obama has solidified his national lead and gained an edge in crucial battleground states in recent weeks as the Wall Street crisis focused the attention of voters on the weakening economy. McCain and Obama will get to spar in person on Tuesday when they meet for the second of three nationally televised presidential debates, this one in Nashville, Tennessee. Later, at a rally in Carson, California, Palin again said the Republican campaign would become more negative. "As one of my campaign staffers reminded me as I was walking out, 'Ok now the heels are on, the gloves come off'," she told thousand of people at a rally in a sports stadium. Recent polls show McCain in a dogfight in Ohio, Florida, Virginia, North Carolina, Colorado, Missouri and Indiana. All were won by President George W. Bush in 2004, and McCain cannot afford to lose them as he tries to piece together the 270 electoral votes needed to capture the White House. (Additional reporting by Jeff Mason in Arizona, writing by Mark Egan, editing by Philip Barbara) Link to post Share on other sites
viatroy Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Bastille Day thanks, but no thanks Link to post Share on other sites
viatroy Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 My husband and I make north of $100K. Here in chicago it never feels like enough. Wages and prices are definitely much higher in the big cities -- I couldn't do it again. But I'm amazed and appalled at the price of houses even in podunk. When I get near a metropolis, the proliferation of fields of McMansions is what really blows me away. I always drive around asking myself, what do these people do that live in these big ass houses? And who cleans them? I mostly grew up outside DC, in a plain little 50's ranch house at the edge of the burbs -- which was then Falls Church. I know my folks bought it for like$17K in the early sixties. Same style houses in the same neighborhood were going for $600,000 a couple years ago -- insanity. Gee, I wonder why people haven't been putting much down on their houses. I meant to say 'gosh darn it.' Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 thanks, but no thanks Rush-rolled Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 I have no idea how anyone buys a house nowadays gosh darn it..... (Subliminal message...vote Obama...) LouieB Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted October 5, 2008 Author Share Posted October 5, 2008 Dear Gov. Palin, Bill Ayers is not a terrorist. Says the woman who was quite cozy with a secessionist party - I mean, it Link to post Share on other sites
laurie Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 I have no idea how anyone buys a house nowadays gosh darn it..... (Subliminal message...vote Obama...) LouieB You Betcha, Lou Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Says the woman who was quite cozy with a secessionist party - I mean, it Link to post Share on other sites
quarter23cd Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 I mostly grew up outside DC, in a plain little 50's ranch house at the edge of the burbs -- which was then Falls Church. I know my folks bought it for like$17K in the early sixties. Same style houses in the same neighborhood were going for $600,000 a couple years ago -- insanity.Heh. Same here. NoVa has changed alot. My parents bought their house in the"wilderness" of Springfield in the '70s. I do miss the area I grew up in, I suppose, but would never dream of moving back there. Insanity. My wife and I lived in the northeast for a while until we had a couple kids and then bolted for the (relatively) cheap midwest. In my experince, the McManisions here around Columbus are largely populated by ex-pats from larger metro areas who are astonished how much house they can get for the money. Our house isn't quite that gaudy, but its true I was amazed how much we could get for the same price as our "starter house" back east. Link to post Share on other sites
sweetheart-mine Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Dear Gov. Palin, Bill Ayers is not a terrorist.october = character assassination, at least from one side. this was predictable, of course, though if they're going to use the palin for such ridiculous claims, i suspect mccain's credibility will suffer more than it already has. character assassination seems to be a one-way street in this campaign. e.g., did obama pull that stuff on hillary (much as i like hillary for many reasons)? there were obvious mounds of dirt from over the years to throw her way, and he didn't do it, although she made a number of attempts to turn hiim into a scary, dishonest guy, such as the jeremiah wright thing, the "obama isn't a muslim . . . as far as i know," and the lame, untrue plagiarism bit. he was going to need the clintons if he won, sure, but he still could have taken a lot of passable shots, at least subtle ones, and didn't. does obama or biden attack mccain's character for the long list of flaws that make him vulnerable? i haven't heard either of them do it, but would be interested to know if i'm wrong. Link to post Share on other sites
sweetheart-mine Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 When I get near a metropolis, the proliferation of fields of McMansions is what really blows me away. I always drive around asking myself, what do these people do that live in these big ass houses? And who cleans them? the few i've seen the inside of seemed to be missing quite a bit of furniture, were filled with plastic crapola, and looked like nobody cleans them. maybe this is just maine, i don't know. the other thing i noticed, even during the boom years when a lot of mccmansions had people living in them, was that it never looked like anyone was living in them. no one was outside, no signs of life. those neighborhoods were spooky. they kept being built, even as the boom was ending, and now a lot of them appear to be ghost-neighborhoods for real -- after replacing meadows, woods, walking paths, birds, smaller houses with some age and character to them, and so on. when i was actively antiquing and went out yard saling every saturday, i and everyone else i knew in the business learned quickly to avoid mcmansion neighborhoods. they never had anything interesting. mostly they were trying to sell stuff like dirty rubber garbage containers so they could buy new rubber garbage containers, although in the earlier days i found one trying to sell a fancy watering can for $150. hell, we stopped checking them out even during spring and fall town clean-up weeks, when people can put out anything they want to get rid of and the town (or funky antiques people) will pick it up for free. Link to post Share on other sites
viatroy Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Obama and Biden seem much more gentlemanly by character, more statesmanlike. I think they should stick to it. Now that people are turning to Obama based on a substantial issue, I like to think they'll be turned off by the Rove-inspired hyena attacks. But then I remind myself of some very bad election nights ... Reagan, Reagan, Bush, Bush, Bush. Of course Bush the elder now seems like a prince compared to his village idiot son. Link to post Share on other sites
j4lackey Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 ......Bush the elder now seems like a prince compared to his village idiot son. Dana Carvey-Will Ferrell: What coulda been Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Ralph Stanley has endorsed Obama.....score one for southwest Virginia..... (subliminal message...vote for Obama......) LouieB Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 thanks, but no thanks Rush-rolled Link to post Share on other sites
sweetheart-mine Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Obama and Biden seem much more gentlemanly by character, more statesmanlike. I think they should stick to it. oh i agree completely, in case i left that part out! Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 When he is elected, Sen. Obama said he is going to get her to listen to Rush. Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 When he is elected, Sen. Obama said he is going to get her to listen to Rush.And we don't mean Limbaugh. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 5, 2008 Share Posted October 5, 2008 Yes, let us make that clear. Obama clinches on Rove map Mike Allen Sun Oct 5, 11:22 AM ET With 30 days until Nov. 4, Karl Rove projects that Sen. Barack Obama (D-Ill.) would get at least 273 electoral votes Link to post Share on other sites
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