EL the Famous Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 I understand that Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kwall Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 . . . in the flick...'the force' existed.prove it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 dude, did you actually see star wars? i'm not about to engage you on the existence of god again, but in the flick...'the force' existed. unless of course you've got a wiki quote from darth hitchens that debunks that too. Jesus Christ - my point, was that unlike Han Solo, skeptics (atheists) have not been proven wrong. That we Quote Link to post Share on other sites
ikol Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 dude, did you actually see star wars? i'm not about to engage you on the existence of god again, but in the flick...'the force' existed. unless of course you've got a wiki quote from darth hitchens that debunks that too. darth hitchens Quote Link to post Share on other sites
EL the Famous Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Jesus Christ - my point, was that unlike Han Solo, skeptics (atheists) have not been proven wrong. That we Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kwall Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 i hope at least some of you will read this and think about it. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 you'd make a horrible jedi. whatever. i'm finished with this subject on this forum. i hope at least some of you will read this and think about it. True, but I Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 how does no evidence exist for loch ness monsters or Bigfoots? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 There's a lot of eyewitness accounts and footprints, but no DNA of a unknown primate species has yet been identified in North America. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
orchestra Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 There's a lot of eyewitness accounts and footprints, but no DNA of a unknown primate species has yet been identified in North America.Oh for fuck's sake. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Oh for fuck's sake.I know. One hair follicle with a DNA sequence would be all it would take. But the sasquatches are just too damn clever, or maybe they never shed. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
markosis Posted October 14, 2008 Share Posted October 14, 2008 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hixter Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Pete Townshend explains why he allowed The Who's 'The Seeker' to be used in the film:Â October 20, 2008 --Â SOME fans of The Who, who know of Pete Townshend's deep spirituality, were surprised to hear "The Seeker" on the soundtrack of Bill Maher's antireligion documentary, "Religulous." So Page Six contacted Townshend, who replied by e-mail: "Bill Maher is a comedian. I am a songwriter. I have faith in what I would call God, but I am not a religious man. I don't want to press my views on other people. Maher seems to have the wish to question and make fun of the sanity of we believers. I'm happy to say I'd prefer to be my kind of crazy than his kind of cynical, but . . . we live in a free society . . . Maher's film is not an important moment in the history of religion . . . So when I first refused the use of my song (for a very modest fee by the way) and Maher badgered me, I decided to allow it. If you have problems with this film, talk to Bill Maher. If you really want to know where I am on my spiritual journey, listen to the song." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Pete Townshend explains why he allowed The Who's 'The Seeker' to be used in the film: October 20, 2008 -- SOME fans of The Who, who know of Pete Townshend's deep spirituality, were surprised to hear "The Seeker" on the soundtrack of Bill Maher's antireligion documentary, "Religulous." So Page Six contacted Townshend, who replied by e-mail: "Bill Maher is a comedian. I am a songwriter. I have faith in what I would call God, but I am not a religious man. I don't want to press my views on other people. Maher seems to have the wish to question and make fun of the sanity of we believers. I'm happy to say I'd prefer to be my kind of crazy than his kind of cynical, but . . . we live in a free society . . . Maher's film is not an important moment in the history of religion . . . So when I first refused the use of my song (for a very modest fee by the way) and Maher badgered me, I decided to allow it. If you have problems with this film, talk to Bill Maher. If you really want to know where I am on my spiritual journey, listen to the song."  I've looked under chairsI've looked under tablesI've tried to find the keyTo fifty million fables They call me The SeekerI've been searching low and highI won't get to get what I'm afterTill the day I die I asked Bobby DylanI asked The BeatlesI asked Timothy LearyBut he couldn't help me either They call me The SeekerI've been searching low and highI won't get to get what I'm afterTill the day I die People tend to hate me'Cause I never smileAs I ransack their homesThey want to shake my hand Focusing on nowhereInvestigating milesI'm a seekerI'm a really desperate man I won't get to get what I'm afterTill the day I die I learned how to raise my voice in angerYeah, but look at my face, ain't this a smile?I'm happy when life's goodAnd when it's bad I cryI've got values but I don't know how or why I'm looking for meYou're looking for youWe're looking in at each otherAnd we don't know what to do They call me The SeekerI've been searching low and highI won't get to get what I'm afterTill the day I die Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 It was also in American Beauty and The Limey. I have always read that the song was about Tom Wright, although, Pete was heavily involved with those who followed Meher Baba at the time he wrote the song. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sir Stewart Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 Was that taken at the loft? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Central Scrutinizer Posted October 20, 2008 Share Posted October 20, 2008 It was also in American Beauty and The Limey. I have always read that the song was about Tom Wright, although, Pete was heavily involved with those who followed Meher Baba at the time he wrote the song.I remember when that song queued up in American Beauty, thinking what a brilliant choice, given where the story was. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted October 21, 2008 Share Posted October 21, 2008 I've looked under chairsI've looked under tablesI've tried to find the keyTo fifty million fables They call me The SeekerI've been searching low and highI won't get to get what I'm afterTill the day I die I asked Bobby DylanI asked The BeatlesI asked Timothy LearyBut he couldn't help me either They call me The SeekerI've been searching low and highI won't get to get what I'm afterTill the day I die People tend to hate me'Cause I never smileAs I ransack their homesThey want to shake my hand Focusing on nowhereInvestigating milesI'm a seekerI'm a really desperate man I won't get to get what I'm afterTill the day I die I learned how to raise my voice in angerYeah, but look at my face, ain't this a smile?I'm happy when life's goodAnd when it's bad I cryI've got values but I don't know how or why I'm looking for meYou're looking for youWe're looking in at each otherAnd we don't know what to do They call me The SeekerI've been searching low and highI won't get to get what I'm afterTill the day I dieThat might be the best song he ever wrote. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted March 14, 2009 Share Posted March 14, 2009 I watched this last night. Parts were very entertaining, parts silly. I don't think he's going to change anybody's mind with this movie. He's awfully smug for someone who claims not to be certain. I thought the interview with the British Muslim rapper was interesting. He just didn't get his desire to censor Salman Rushdie while assertively fighting for his freedom of expression is hypocritical. I also like the interview with the skeptic (who I think was a priest) outside the Vatican. His conclusion would have been much more convincing if he had acknowledged any of the good people have done in the name of religion. The bad may outweigh the good, but maybe mention one hospital, homeless shelter, food bank, or prison ministry. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
explodo Posted March 15, 2009 Share Posted March 15, 2009 He's awfully smug for someone who claims not to be certain.I'm a Maher fan, but this is my biggest problem with him. You can be an atheist without being a condescending prick. But I enjoyed the movie a good deal despite that. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 I'm a Maher fan, but this is my biggest problem with him. You can be an atheist without being a condescending prick. But I enjoyed the movie a good deal despite that. In Bill Maher Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 In Bill Maher Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Good Old Neon Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 In his defense? Good thing you're not his attorney. I like him, but Bill Maher is a condescending prick Quote Link to post Share on other sites
explodo Posted March 16, 2009 Share Posted March 16, 2009 In Bill Maher Quote Link to post Share on other sites
TheMaker Posted March 17, 2009 Share Posted March 17, 2009 I watched this last night. Parts were very entertaining, parts silly. I don't think he's going to change anybody's mind with this movie. He's awfully smug for someone who claims not to be certain. I thought the interview with the British Muslim rapper was interesting. He just didn't get his desire to censor Salman Rushdie while assertively fighting for his freedom of expression is hypocritical. I also like the interview with the skeptic (who I think was a priest) outside the Vatican. His conclusion would have been much more convincing if he had acknowledged any of the good people have done in the name of religion. The bad may outweigh the good, but maybe mention one hospital, homeless shelter, food bank, or prison ministry. In all seriousness, why bother? Plenty of shelters, hospitals, and counselling exist without explicit ties to any made-up nonsense. At best, religion is a superfluous element that effectively bribes otherwise selfish folks into doing selfless and/or charitable deeds by dangling the ludicrous threat of cosmic retribution over their heads. I enjoyed the flick a great deal, mostly because Maher's attitude was not only justified, but absolutely necessary given the poisonous climate faced by rationalists in 2009. He's too soft, too tolerant, if anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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