bleedorange Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Don't bother...we clearly are talking to unbalanced people here.... If you support McCain-Palin and their wacky right wing stances or vote third party in this close an election and basically support left of center politics, you are not balanced. This is an election where people who support McCain/Palin are willing to ask for the assassination of Barack Obama; I don't think we have to give anyone the benefit of the doubt at that point. LouieB Wait...what? Link to post Share on other sites
ikol Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Yes, and let's hope all the votes count this time. If you registered through ACORN, your vote may even count more than once. Don't bother...we clearly are talking to unbalanced people here.... If you support McCain-Palin and their wacky right wing stances or vote third party in this close an election and basically support left of center politics, you are not balanced. But if you are left of center and support Obama, you are balanced? I get that you think your opinions are correct, but to suggest that they are somehow more balanced than someone's on the other end of the spectrum is wrong. This is an election where people who support McCain/Palin are willing to ask for the assassination of Barack Obama; I don't think we have to give anyone the benefit of the doubt at that point. I'm pretty sure that no one here has asked for any assassinations. Gee, you busted me. Is who me by the way? What did I say? Just another pregnancy conspiracy theory centered on Palin. Link to post Share on other sites
explodo Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 They're all idiots. I think McCain is "less bad" for the country. How's that.Works for me. That is the reason why 48% of the country voted for John Kerry, isn't it? Link to post Share on other sites
Edie Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 I understnad how people have different opinions on this election; I even like most of them regardless of their opinions (and sometimes because of them, as I like to see the "other side's" perspectives on things). And I am talking about non-board friends BTW. Link to post Share on other sites
laurie Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Yes, and let's hope all the votes count this time. That would be sooo refreshing now wouldn't it? Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 That would be sooo refreshing now wouldn't it? Most certainly. Link to post Share on other sites
Moe_Syzlak Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 I understnad how people have different opinions on this election; I even like most of them regardless of their opinions (and sometimes because of them, as I like to see the "other side's" perspectives on things). And I am talking about non-board friends BTW.Exactly. I mean if the answers to things like the quagmire in the middle east or how to deal with the ailing economy were clear cut, there would be no debate and we'd just fix the problems. The issues of the day are complex and I, for one, am interested in hearing the differing opinions while keeping an open mind that I -- nor the candidate I support -- may just not have ALL the answers (shocking!). And I'm absolutely positive that my candidate isn't right because the majority of fans of a certain band support him. I would like to hear dialogue about how McCain's positions are better for the country beyond just that he's "less bad" for the country than the other guy. Less bad how exactly? Link to post Share on other sites
explodo Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Exactly. I mean if the answers to things like the quagmire in the middle east or how to deal with the ailing economy were clear cut, there would be no debate and we'd just fix the problems. The issues of the day are complex and I, for one, am interested in hearing the differing opinions while keeping an open mind that I -- nor the candidate I support -- may just not have ALL the answers (shocking!). And I'm absolutely positive that my candidate isn't right because the majority of fans of a certain band support him. I would like to hear dialogue about how McCain's positions are better for the country beyond just that he's "less bad" for the country than the other guy. Less bad how exactly?Jeff Tweedy is going to send you to hell. Link to post Share on other sites
ZenLunatic Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 McCain is pretty much like having Bush serve another term. Why would anyone want that? No way McCain wins this election. Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Just another pregnancy conspiracy theory centered on Palin. Because that's apparently what I do? resent whacked out crazy theories with no bais in fact? Like ...ah never mind. Link to post Share on other sites
embiggen Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 McCain less bad my ass Link to post Share on other sites
ikol Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Because that's apparently what I do? resent whacked out crazy theories with no bais in fact? Like ...ah never mind. Lighten up. Link to post Share on other sites
Spawn's dad Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 This is one of the worst arguments in the history of this board. WWJTD!? agreed. truthfully I only care who Jay Farrar thinks I should vote for. Link to post Share on other sites
ikol Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 I only care who the guy from Everclear says I should vote for, so I know to vote for the other guy. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Obama calls for 90-day moratorium on foreclosures By CHRISTOPHER WILLS, Associated Press Writer 33 minutes ago Toledo, Ohio - Democratic Barack Obama on Monday called for more immediate steps to heal the nation's ailing economy, proposing a 90-day moratorium on home foreclosures at some banks and a two-year tax break for businesses that create new jobs. The presidential candidate also proposed allowing people to withdraw up to $10,000 from their retirement accounts without any penalty for the remainder of the year and 2009. Obama said his proposals, with a pricetag of $60 billion over two years, can be enacted quickly, either through the government's regulatory powers or legislation that Congress could pass in a special session after the election. "I'm proposing a number of steps that we should take immediately to stabilize our financial system, provide relief to families and communities and help struggling homeowners," Obama said in prepared remarks. "It's a plan that begins with one word that's on everyone's mind, and it's spelled J-O-B-S." Obama delivered his economic message in Toledo, a blue-collar city in a state that could be critical to Obama's presidential hopes. Polls show a close race between Obama and Republican John McCain in Ohio, which decided the 2004 presidential election. At stake are 20 electoral votes. His latest proposals are in addition to other policies the Illinois senator has already offered as the stock market struggles, financial institutions wobble and tight credit chokes the economy. Obama supported the $700 billion Wall Street bailout plan and endorsed the latest twist on it: the government buying ownership in major banks and partially nationalizing them to keep them afloat. He also calls for tax breaks for most families, cutting capital gains taxes for investment in small business and extending unemployment benefits. Obama said that banks participating in the federal bailout should temporarily postpone foreclosures for families making good-faith efforts to pay their mortgage. "We need to give people the breathing room they need to get back on their feet," he said, adding that families living beyond their means share some of the responsibility. He also called for a $3,000 tax credit for each additional full-time job a business creates. That means a business that adds five jobs would get a $15,000 break. That would end after 2010 and would cost $40 billion, the campaign estimates. Obama also is proposing letting people withdraw up to 15 percent of their retirement funds, to a maximum of $10,000, without any penalty this year and next. They would still have to pay normal taxes on the money. He said letting people dip into their IRAs and 401(k)s would help them get through tough times when money is tight. State and local governments face a money crunch, too, and Obama called for new federal short-term loans to help them through the crisis. He called it a "funding backstop" to ensure that states and cities can meet payroll or keep projects moving. Link to post Share on other sites
Edie Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 The only thing that I don't like about Obama's plan is dipping into an already battered 401K or IRA would not benefit most people in the long run. Maybe only if all other sources of funds are exhausted; not for most people. Link to post Share on other sites
Tweedling Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 That would be sooo refreshing now wouldn't it?yes it would! Link to post Share on other sites
ZenLunatic Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Not too impressed by Obama's proposal today. Just delaying the inevitable doesnt really help. Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 If you registered through ACORN, your vote may even count more than once. Please, one hypothetical example of how this is even theoretically possible. Thanks. Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Please, one hypothetical example of how this is even theoretically possible. Thanks.http://www.newsnet5.com/politics/17703748/detail.html Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Yes, that guy filled out 73 voter registration cards. I would still like to see how that translates into voting 73 times, or even twice. That's not how it works. Link to post Share on other sites
Winston Legthigh Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Yes, that guy filled out 73 voter registration cards. I would still like to see how that translates into voting 73 times, or even twice. That's not how it works.If they're for 73 different aliases, I would assume he might be able to go and vote 73 times. Link to post Share on other sites
EL the Famous Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 i bet jay bennett wants you to vote for mccain! Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 If they're for 73 different aliases, I would assume he might be able to go and vote 73 times.That's a lot to do in one day, even if the traffic lights are for you. Link to post Share on other sites
explodo Posted October 13, 2008 Share Posted October 13, 2008 Don't you typically have to show ID at the polling place? Link to post Share on other sites
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