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If for some reason the economy turns around in the next four years I will be too busy being thankful I won

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Look what's happening in Paris:

 

http://www.parisforobama.com/accueil_en.htm

 

"THE GREAT DAY APPROACHES"

 

Launching of balloons and doves in the huge space that looks out over the Eiffel Tower

on Monday Nov.3 in support of Obama's American voters, followed by cocktails and dinner

at American restaurant a few minutes away.

 

Tuesday, all-night watching of election returns at venues around the city!

 

 

That there should be such support for a foreign election is unprecedented!!!!

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I arrived at work this morning to find a notice from the Dem party in my inbox that I GOT TICKETS to Obama's rally!!!

 

This is gonna be very cool.........me and friends rented some office space right at Roosevelt and Michigan....and I have two tickets.......good thing I took Wed off

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The *very* conservative Florida Times-Union (Jacksonville's only daily newspaper) had no coverage on the election on its front page (oh, by the way, Obama is having a rally this morning in Jacksonville at the colliseum with about 20K expected) is a scare headline "No police at polling places.

 

In a county where 27K black votes "disappeared" in 2000, the Times-Union warns black voters there will be no one at the polls to help them, and reminds the uneducated whites that McCain is targeting in swing states to come down and stir up some trouble.

 

"... at long last? Have you left no sense of decency?"

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Not in 2010 or 2012 when you are arguing in a similar thread about who to vote for... You will have an opinion about what/how/why the market turned around (or didn't) and who is best prepared to steward the ship going forward.

 

Find in any post I have ever made where I laid any of this solely on any Presidents shoulders. A lot of people put entirely too much weight and value in the Presidents ability to steer a nations direction and economy. We do have two additional branches of government you know.

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So what happens after tomorrow? Do we start a new thread? Unless something really exciting happens, this does appear to be the last election thread.....

 

LouieB

Well, we could go the route of the MLB threads and start a 'hot stove' thread for campaign '12. :lol

 

Good Lord, did I just say that? Wtf is wrong with me?

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Find in any post I have ever made where I laid any of this solely on any Presidents shoulders. A lot of people put entirely too much weight and value in the Presidents ability to steer a nations direction and economy. We do have two additional branches of government you know.

 

I understand -- that's exactly what I said above: too much credit and blame goes to presidents. That's also why I referred to 2010. Maybe I am wrong, but I have a feeling that if the economy turns around (or doesn't), you will have a theory for why it turned around (or didn't), and you will cast your vote accordingly. As would any other voter. I don't think we are going to be too busy being thankful. We shall see. Maybe I am wrong.

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One thing that should be kept in mind:

 

The country is very divided. Where McCain is leading, his support is very strong. Where Obama is leading, his support is very strong.

If we don't find a way to come together after the election, then we are headed down a scary path.

 

There are Two different Americas now. And this should be frightening to you all.

Eh, there are plenty of states where they are very close.

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Eh, there are plenty of states where they are very close.

The Indy Star had Barack 46-45, with 6% not sure last night. FWIW.

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We have had two Americas for a very long time now.....sadly. One thing that always happens after an election, is that the loser is magnanimous and offers support. I am sure, despite all the shitty things his campaign has said, McCain will do the same thing. That won't stop the speculation that Barack is a Muslim/terrorist/socialist/ etc. in the general population, but somehow things will get back to relative normacy.

 

Maybe we will even get the heck out Iraq sooner than later...who knows. The economy will undoubtedly settle down after the election as well.

 

LouieB

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I'm sorry but I just have to ask...

 

is the purpose of these threads simply group masturbation or is there some other kind of purpose at hand?

 

c'mon dude. feel free to elevate the discussion and contribute something...even if it is handing me a box of kleenex or something.

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One thing that should be kept in mind:

 

The country is very divided. Where McCain is leading, his support is very strong. Where Obama is leading, his support is very strong.

 

If we don't find a way to come together after the election, then we are headed down a scary path.

 

There are Two different Americas now. And this should be frightening to you all.

 

Agreed

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While I realize some of this is standard faire, I'm watching/listening to the live feed of the Obama rally here in Jax, and as they're waiting for Obama to take the stage, they just followed up Sam & Dave's "Hold On, I'm Coming" with the Staple Singers' "I'll Take You There."

 

Atlantic/Stax '12

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What's everyone doing for election night? We're hosting a small get together. Here's the invite:

 

Join us for a small election night dinner as we watch the election results roll in. We will be grilling Brats Obama served with a side of Liberal Elite Arugula Salad. Bring the beverage of your choice and we will have champagne if the news is good; whiskey and Canadian immigration information if the news is bad.
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As always, I've got to disagree with you here. I think you mistake those who seek to coopt religion -- as they coopt the constitution and laws to be bent and molded -- for their own purposes. This is a militant group that exists within the church only when it serves its purposes.

 

As may have been bandied about in another thread, faith does not preclude a pragmatic approach to politics, life and choosing which movie to rent.

 

A militant group large enough to ensure a first and second Bush term, the election of countless religious fundamentalists at the state and local level, and now, a close campaign between McCain and Obama.

 

I love you One Wing, but I see very little evidence that, on the whole, you represent the mainstream religious view

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A militant group large enough to ensure a first and second Bush term, the election of countless religious fundamentalists at the state and local level, and now, a close campaign between McCain and Obama.

 

I love you One Wing, but I see very little evidence that, on the whole, you represent the mainstream religious view

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A militant group large enough to ensure a first and second Bush term, the election of countless religious fundamentalists at the state and local level, and now, a close campaign between McCain and Obama.

I think it wasn't just the religious fundamentalists, I think it was Rove's ability to harness it.

 

Everything I've read and seen about McCain's approach in the 11th hour has more to do with race than faith. He and his campaign manager have said their focus is non-college-educated white males, and "walmart women." That doesn't say faith; that says rednecks who can be scared to vote against a black president.

 

True to his record as a pilot, McCain has morally crashed and burned in taking the low flight path to the highest office.

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If the religious right was as strong as you propose, Obama wouldn't stand a chance; Palin would be enough. Or rather, she wouldn't have had a chance because McCain wouldn't be the nominee; it would have been either slick Mit or Hucklebee.

Yeah, the voting religious right definitely isn't close to 50% of the electorate. Maybe 20-25%. Remember that only around 60% of eligible voters bothered to cast a vote in the last election. And Bush won with slightly more than 50% of cast votes. That means that slightly more than 30% of eligible voters re-elected him.

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o rly?

 

then why does McCain (and most often Republicans) pull in a huge majority of the voters without a high school diploma and Obama (and often Dems) have huge leads among folks with college degrees?

 

:stunned

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