The Post Election Thread

[Winston Legthigh]

What a great Legacy the State of Minnesota has:

 

Harold Stassen

HUbert Humphrey

Walter Mondale

Jessee Ventura

Al Franken

 

A Texan is ripping on Minnesotans for the people they've put in office?? huh...

[Guest Jules]

Barack is starting to sound like W in some of his sound bites.

[John Smith]

Barack is starting to sound like W in some of his sound bites.

 

Like his tongue is swollen and he skipped english class? Or in policy?

[Guest Jules]

Like his tongue is swollen and he skipped english class? Or in policy?

the former

[John Smith]

the former

 

Ouch

[Basil II]

Barack's gonna kick ass.........he's got precedent.

 

 

if not (Eli Wallach Intonation) "it's all over for us now"

 

 

-Robert

[Guest Jules]

so, is Wilco on this "Obama Soundtrack" that's coming out on Jan 20?

[JUDE]

Does it come with a Montel Williams endorsed commemorative plate® and coffee mug?

[mfwahl]

Here is a press release from my work farm. If anyone is familiar with Politifact from the '08 campaign, this is similar. It is the Obameter. The paper and website will be keeping track of Obama's campaign promises and how he delivers or not delivers on them. I think it's a great idea, but I might be biased.

PolitiFact.com to Track Over 500 Campaign Promises with

[Analogman]

WHouse stops pending Bush regulations for review

 

Tue Jan 20, 7:25 pm ET

 

WASHINGTON (Reuters)

[Moss]

I know it's standard practice but it was still great to see that (stopping pending bush regulations for review).

[Analogman]

An article from December:

 

Bush sneaks through host of laws to undermine Obama

 

Bush's midnight regulations will:

 

 

[mountain bed]

I know it's standard practice but it was still great to see that (stopping pending bush regulations for review).

I agree.

[Analogman]

The President's Last Goodbye - Slate crashes Bush's farewell party.

 

The Bush-Cheney Alumni Association

 

 

I am surprised these people did not get arrested:

 

Bush Protest: Shoes Thrown At White House (PHOTOS)

[ikol]

[Tweedling]

[John Smith]

What's wrong with this? It would be absurd if women had the right to choose whether to have an abortion while healthcare workers had no right to choose not to perform them.

 

Or if say a health care worker did not want to dispose Birth Control or perhaps they don't believe in fighting nature and don't want to dispense chemo drugs because cancer is a natural deisease. It's wrong because it is a slippery slope. Heck why not just move to Saudi and practice medicine because that is the enviornment that the Bush administration and their conservative religious cronies truley desire.

[bleedorange]

Or if say a health care worker did not want to dispose Birth Control or perhaps they don't believe in fighting nature and don't want to dispense chemo drugs because cancer is a natural deisease. It's wrong because it is a slippery slope. Heck why not just move to Saudi and practice medicine because that is the enviornment that the Bush administration and their conservative religious cronies truley desire.

 

Actually, as it stands now, people have many choices when it comes to the health care professionals they see. Part of the beauty of private health care. I suppose under a national health care plan, though, these choices would narrow and then it might become an issue.

[Beltmann]

It would be absurd if women had the right to choose whether to have an abortion while healthcare workers had no right to choose not to perform them.

I agree with you in general principle, but these new regs make the situation more complicated. First, several laws, including Title VII, already provide protection for workers who don't want to participate in abortion-related services. The right to refuse has existed for three decades. These new regs go much further, though, and make it virtually impossible for hospitals to anticipate all the situations where a worker might invoke the conscience clause; they may also render certain state laws unenforceable, such as those mandating contraceptive insurance coverage or the availability of emergency contraception to rape victims.

 

Here's an interesting read: What Are Some Key Organizations Saying About the Proposed HHS Rule?

[ikol]

Or if say a health care worker did not want to dispose Birth Control or perhaps they don't believe in fighting nature and don't want to dispense chemo drugs because cancer is a natural deisease. It's wrong because it is a slippery slope. Heck why not just move to Saudi and practice medicine because that is the enviornment that the Bush administration and their conservative religious cronies truley desire.

 

I see no problem with those scenarios. I wouldn't go to those healthcare workers for my healthcare, but they certainly have a right to their beliefs. And I'm sure you were just using hyperbole, but you don't really believe that last sentence, do you?

 

 

I agree with you in general principle, but these new regs make the situation more complicated. First, several laws, including Title VII, already provide protection for workers who don't want to participate in abortion-related services. The right to refuse has existed for three decades. These new regs go much further, though, and make it virtually impossible for hospitals to anticipate all the situations where a worker might invoke the conscience clause; they may also render certain state laws unenforceable, such as those mandating contraceptive insurance coverage or the availability of emergency contraception to rape victims.

 

Here's an interesting read: What Are Some Key Organizations Saying About the Proposed HHS Rule?

 

Thanks. That has a lot more information than the mildly slanted bullet talking point I was responding to. Hospitals should certainly be allowed to inquire about their employees beliefs about healthcare and hire based on those beliefs.

[John Smith]

And I'm sure you were just using hyperbole, but you don't really believe that last sentence, do you?

 

I do not litterally but in the sense that the religious voice in this country is trying to domintate like they do in Saudi and other such unsavory countries.

[uncool2pillow]

Is there anyone who doesn't think doing a job approval poll for President Obama is a bit premature?

[MrRain422]

The have to know what the country is feeling about him now to understand trends later. It's hard to know how people's opinion of him would be effected by, say, whatever stimulus package ends up being passed without knowing where he stood before it passed.

[Analogman]

Obama signs equal-pay bill

 

By PHILIP ELLIOTT, Associated Press Writer Philip Elliott, Associated Press Writer

[mountain bed]

Great news! Barack really IS trying to do the right things, imo - I just hope he isn't judged solely on the economy, because I don't think anyone really knows what to do about that mess.