Synthesizer Patel Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Grizzly Bear (and the latter is pretty ridiculous after one record). The Band pretty much changed the vast majority of American music in the late 60s with one album, so it's not impossible. I'm going to say Animal Collective, just because I hope they will become so in the future - and in saying that, i'm assuming they're being quite influential to bands right now, but this won't be felt for a time to come. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 If Kings of Leon keep progressing and keep things interesting they will have a great influence on young new bands. Jack White can do no wrong and has influenced the young and old alike with the White Stripes and the Raconteurs. i saw them on the brit awards the other night, and all i could think was how have they managed to devolve quite that much after their first album? for one thing, their drummer needs shooting. a bit like the white stripes (post jack white joining the raconteurs and becoming a preening cock of the walk), the kings of leon might very well be influencing young people's haircuts, but not young musicians; or, if they are, then it's not in any progressive/good way. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
m_thomp Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 IMO Animal Collective are the most idiosyncratic band today that does have followers and will have followers, also Grizzly Bear. I would like to become best friends with giraffo. These two bands are the most important to me. By 'important' I mean important to me only. Sorry folks, I couldn't give a hoot about the cultural, social impact of music, specifically when trying to change a nation's way of life. I think the idea that music these days is powerful enough to affect any of this is pretty redundant. To think that way in terms of music means you have to adopt a one-size-fits-all policy in that the songs have to speak to everyone, by default this makes them bland and ineffectual. The only bands who chase that sort of pipe dream these days are bands like U2 who try to please everyone all of the time, offering up scant hollow ideaology in their songs in the hope that people can attach some kind of significance to it. Anyway, Grizzly Bear and Animal Collective offer up all that I look for in modern music: songs with an ear for good melody and songs that are constantly evolving, yet inventively refreshing, in their approach. Which is longhand for saying that they're both very good at concisely expressing lots of ideas. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
m_thomp Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Grizzly Bear (and the latter is pretty ridiculous after one record). Pretty sure they're about to release their third album (fourth if you include 'Sorry For The Delay') Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Littlebear Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 The Beatles, The Band, Radiohead, U2, The Flaming Lips, The White Stripes, REM, etc... and Wilco... All of these are YESTERDAY's bands. They're Dinosaurs. Nothing new nor novative nor urgent from them anymore. Forget it. A *rock band* may have no future at all today. The most important TODAY, could be The Hold Steady. Because you feel an urgency in their thing. But it's transitional, I don't think this band will be important either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Pretty sure they're about to release their third album (fourth if you include 'Sorry For The Delay') was Friend an album or an ep too?, i know it's got an album's worth of songs on it, so let's call it an album. also, i've never heard horn of plenty - is it worth checking out? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Rock Pools Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Richmond Fontaine Quote Link to post Share on other sites
deepseacatfish Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Sonic Youth would have to rank pretty high up there. But for a more truly American sounding band, The Hold Steady. "Important" is just wickedly subjective. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Wilco Rules Me Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 i saw them on the brit awards the other night, and all i could think was how have they managed to devolve quite that much after their first album? for one thing, their drummer needs shooting. a bit like the white stripes (post jack white joining the raconteurs and becoming a preening cock of the walk), the kings of leon might very well be influencing young people's haircuts, but not young musicians; or, if they are, then it's not in any progressive/good way. I think KOLs second album is superb, parallel with their first. Their third album evolved away from the first and second albums, but I really like some songs on there. "Sex on Fire" not being one of them, "Black Thumbnail" being one. When I saw them a couple of years ago 2004 they were playing small gigs, now they are selling out Madison Square Garden. I believe they are/will be an influence, if they keep it together. - yes their haircuts suck. I don't understand what you mean about Mr. White. But I don't think you can deny his importance or influence on both the young and old musicians. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
m_thomp Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 was Friend an album or an ep too?, i know it's got an album's worth of songs on it, so let's call it an album. also, i've never heard horn of plenty - is it worth checking out? I think it was deemed an EP, but defintely has an album's worth of material on it. HOP is good, I think you'd like it. Although it bears (ho ho) the Grizzly Bear name the bulk of it was written by Ed Droste. Was only on Yellow House that Daniel Rossen (dude from the excellent Dept. of Eagles) started chipping in on the song-writing front. Like AC, I definitely see them as part of an exciting ongoing evolution, in that their musical choices and output always seem to be progressively better and different. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mjpuczko Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 current band: PJ or hold steady and apparently i'm the only person on this message board who can't stand the white stripes. wow. i find them completely boring. i think jack's a great guitar player but i hate his voice. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Jack White can do no wrong... Conquest was wrong. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
dondoboy Posted February 20, 2009 Author Share Posted February 20, 2009 My two cents: Its probably Wilco. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Guest Wilco Rules Me Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Conquest was wrong. Love the horns, love the irony in the story. I dig it. It's cool, I still like you. Oh and mjpuczko I am still your friend. God bless y'all. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 current band: PJ or hold steady and apparently i'm the only person on this message board who can't stand the white stripes. wow. i find them completely boring. i think jack's a great guitar player but i hate his voice. I don't care for them either. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aricandover Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 current band: PJ or hold steady and apparently i'm the only person on this message board who can't stand the white stripes. wow. i find them completely boring. i think jack's a great guitar player but i hate his voice. you are not alone Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mfwahl Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 I couldn't care less about them also. What is important? Animal Collective is doing the stuff that I'm most excited about today, but not a lot of people have heard of them. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
John Smith Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 a bit like the white stripes (post jack white joining the raconteurs and becoming a preening cock of the walk), the kings of leon might very well be influencing young people's haircuts, but not young musicians; or, if they are, then it's not in any progressive/good way. See this is where the how do you define influential/important comes into play. Is influential only counted if you like the bands they influence or like their style of music to begin with? I don Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aricandover Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 Sonic Youth would have to rank pretty high up there. But for a more truly American sounding band, The Hold Steady. "Important" is just wickedly subjective. it is, but I see a lot of people posting the names of bands that are important to them in this thread, and that's not what's in question. you need to take into account how important a band is to the general public/majority Americans, not to a handful of folks who read the internet all day looking for new music. Most people will find one of those American Idol winners more important than the Hold Steady, simply because they know american idol or the hits they hear on the radio. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
jff Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 The Band pretty much changed the vast majority of American music in the late 60s with one album, so it's not impossible. They basically killed whatever was left of Eric Clapton's desire to play in Cream, so they had a pretty significant impact on British music with one album, too. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 it is, but I see a lot of people posting the names of bands that are important to them in this thread, and that's not what's in question. you need to take into account how important a band is to the general public/majority Americans, not to a handful of folks who read the internet all day looking for new music. Most people will find one of those American Idol winners more important than the Hold Steady, simply because they know american idol or the hits they hear on the radio. you don't have to know about something in any great detail to feel it's impact. popular music feeds off of bastardising anything new/original/cult - there is nothing original about it by nature, so just because the vast majority of people don't know about a 'cool new sound' first hand, they feels the effects second-hand through the pop acts they like. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aricandover Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 you don't have to know about something in any great detail to feel it's impact. popular music feeds off of bastardising anything new/original/cult - there is nothing original about it by nature, so just because the vast majority of people don't know about a 'cool new sound' first hand, they feels the effects second-hand through the pop acts they like. influence does not equal importance Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Kalle Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 influence does not equal importance I think they can be pretty synonymous, especially within music. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Synthesizer Patel Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 influence does not equal importance if kylie minogue's personal dresser (or whatever it is) watches a kraftwerk video and thinks let's dress your dancers like that in your next video. and then the kids watch it on mtv and say that looks cool - i'm gonna dress like that. does that not mean that kraftwerk are the bigger influence? - seeing as how the whole image would not have existed without them. it's a bit like someone inventing a flying skateboard compared to someone marketing and selling it. one of those 2 groups of people can exist without the other, but not the other way around (i'll let you decide which way round that is). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
aricandover Posted February 20, 2009 Share Posted February 20, 2009 if kylie minogue's personal dresser (or whatever it is) watches a kraftwerk video and thinks let's dress your dancers like that in your next video. and then the kids watch it on mtv and say that looks cool - i'm gonna dress like that. does that not mean that kraftwerk are the bigger influence? - seeing as how the whole image would not have existed without them. to the kids watching the video, it's all about Kylie and that's hwere it's going to stop. they're not going to sit there and wonder "Hmm, I wonder how she came up with that." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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