Analogman Posted February 8, 2010 Author Share Posted February 8, 2010 This is the Fillmore East 71 show with the lyrical goof/laughter in "St. Stephen," correct? If so, I was listening to that official release on Friay night foe th firt time and the track listing seemed off to me. I didn't check my DeadBase but recall the tape I have of the show had tunes in a different order. Is the official release track listing true to the actual order or has it been fucked with? Wikipedia link April 25, 1971 - Disc 1, tracks 3-4, 7 & 10, Disc 2, track 1, Disc 3, tracks 1-2 & 4April 27, 1971 - Disc 2, tracks 8-9, Disc 4, track 9April 28, 1971 - Disc 1, tracks 5 & 8-9, disc 2, tracks 2-5 & 7, Disc 3, tracks 6-10, Disc 4, track 3April 29, 1971 - Disc 1, tracks 1-2 & 6, Disc 2, track 6, Disc 3, tracks 3 & 5, Disc 4, tracks 1-2, 4-8 & 10-11 Speaking of mixing and matching, I was listening to this yesterday: Dick's Picks Volume 12 is the twelfth live album in the Dick's Picks series of releases by the Grateful Dead. It was recorded on June 26, 1974 at the Providence Civic Center in Providence, Rhode Island and on June 28, 1974 at the Boston Garden, Boston, Massachusetts. I don't have many of the Dick's Picks releases. I just have the few that I was able to grab in the place I use to get cds back in the 1990s. Link to post Share on other sites
JohnO Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 I was listening to the Hollywood Palladium show from 1971-08-06 over the weekend. Highly recommend! http://www.archive.org/details/gd1971-08-06.fob-SonyECM22p.miller.88816.sbeok.flac16 Link to post Share on other sites
JohnO Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Vince wasn't THAT bad.I agree. I attended a 3 night run in Oakland that culminated in Mardi Gras and on the second night Vince carried the band. The Vince critics are way out of line imho. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 8, 2010 Author Share Posted February 8, 2010 It's up early today. Taper's Section (February 8 - February 14, 2010) Greetings, and welcome back to the Tapers' Section, where this week we'll be playing music from 1988, 1990 and 1992. Our first stop this week is at the Meadowlands in New Jersey, where the Grateful Dead were playing their first ever three-night run at the Brendan Byrne Arena. The middle night, 3/31/88, featured a very odd show ending jam, and we're pleased to play it for you here today. The post-Drums sequence of Space>GDTRFB>Miracle>Fantasy>Hey Jude>Watchtower, Knockin' featured a couple of things to note. First of all, check out the gorgeous Space, with Jerry, Phil and Bobby doing all sorts of cool things. The transition into GDTRFB is one of the cleanest I've ever heard, followed by a passionate Miracle into a terrific Dear Mr. Fantasy. At the end of Fantasy, during the Hey Jude coda, Brent and Bobby can be heard doing some outstanding vocal bits. Then one of the strangest bits of late-80s Grateful Dead music arrived: All Along The Watchtower. All I can say is check it out; train wreck narrowly averted, perfectly executed chaos ensues. Also, this encore would end up being the only time the Grateful Dead played two Bob Dylan songs in a row. Next we have music from the final Grateful Dead show at the Hartford Civic Center on 3/19/90. We have the end of the first set, Picasso Moon, Brown-Eyed Women, All Over Now, Deal. This was the first time I ever saw Picasso Moon live, and although much-maligned, I thought the song kicked butt live, and I was thoroughly impressed hearing it the first time live. A nice, raunchy, rocking end, similar in tone to long-lost closing jams on Passenger. It's a great Deal, too, one of those versions where everyone locks in tightly in the closing jam. From the same tour, on 3/29/90 at Nassau Coliseum, we have the start of the first set featuring Jack Straw, Bertha, We Can Run, Ramble On Rose, Masterpiece. We've selected this batch of tunes not only because it's really good, but it often gets overlooked due to the presence of Branford Marsalis later in the first set and in the second set. Finally this week, we have the penultimate (there it is again!) Canadian Grateful Dead concert, held at the current home of the Hamilton Bulldogs (Go Habs!), at Copps Coliseum in Hamilton, Ontario, Canada on 3/20/92. I distinctly recall this day being a very cold, crisp, sunny end-of-winter day, and I spent some time in the afternoon visiting the CFL Hall of Fame near the arena. I also remember being in the hotel lobby when the band arrived and checked in, to a huge round of applause by a lobby filled with Dead Heads. From that show, we have Hell In A Bucket, Althea, The Same Thing, Brown-Eyed Women, Mexicali Blues>Maggie's Farm. This latter combination is cool as Mexicali rarely started cold, usually coming out of Mama Tried or Me and My Uncle. These versions of Maggie's Farm with everyone taking a verse were pretty cool, too. Hearing Vince sing his verse in Europe in 1990 was the first time any of us had ever heard Vince's voice on its own. Be sure to stop by next week when we'll listen to music from 1974 and 1982. Thanks for hanging out, and feel free to send questions or comments to me at the email address below, with the subject “Grateful Dead” to make sure it squeezes through our state-of-the-art spam filters. David Lemieux Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 8, 2010 Author Share Posted February 8, 2010 I was listening to the Hollywood Palladium show from 1971-08-06 over the weekend. Highly recommend! http://www.archive.org/details/gd1971-08-06.fob-SonyECM22p.miller.88816.sbeok.flac16 That's the show where Bob tells the taper that he should move back in order get a better recording. I really like that song Loser. Link to post Share on other sites
Dmada Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 I agree. I attended a 3 night run in Oakland that culminated in Mardi Gras and on the second night Vince carried the band. The Vince critics are way out of line imho.Vine was good. He stayed under the radar for the most part and just played the tunes. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 8, 2010 Share Posted February 8, 2010 Vine was good. He stayed under the radar for the most part and just played the tunes.I don't know. He had a few of his own tunes he brought to the band and was a pretty heavy presence (backing vocals) on a good amount of tunes. I never minded Vince but can understand some folks' comments about him being a little much. Link to post Share on other sites
Dmada Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 I don't know. He had a few of his own tunes he brought to the band and was a pretty heavy presence (backing vocals) on a good amount of tunes. I never minded Vince but can understand some folks' comments about him being a little much.I guess he was more in the background for the shows I saw, I was totally indifferent to him and his playing. Still am. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 I guess he was more in the background for the shows I saw, I was totally indifferent to him and his playing. Still am. He used to play around here every now and again in small bars and I always enjoyed his stuff. He was a very affable guy, too. My least favorite of the keyboardists for the GD, though, even though he never really bothered me in the band. Link to post Share on other sites
NightOfJoy Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 I picked up a couple recordings of post Brent shows that I attended to find this awful highpitched caterwauling coming from the backup vocals. Cant tell if its Bruce or Vince but cripes, someone should've told whoever it was to shut up. I never noticed it during the shows themselves. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 It's Vince. One of the reasons they went with him as Brent's replacement was the vocals/pitch he could hit. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 9, 2010 Author Share Posted February 9, 2010 Found by way of David Gans' Blog DeadBase Returns! And we’re looking for a little help from our friends We’re back! Or at least we’re thinking about it… By popular demand we are in the process of determining the feasibility of publishing a new edition of DeadBase and are looking for some help. While a totally revised DBXII is still a possibility for the future, right now we are considering putting out a reprint of DBXI with an appendix of corrections and additions to the setlists. While we are looking into the logistics of printing and distribution (can you say Amazon?) we are putting the word out to gather missing data. That’s where you come in. We know that folks have found errors in the setlists since the last version of DeadBase came out in 1999, and we want to include a list of corrections in the new book. All proposed changes will be reviewed and evaluated, and contributors will be acknowledged in the new edition. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 If it's merely set-list corrections I'll pas and hold on to DBXI and DBX. The orrctions can be found through archives.org, mainly, and other sources. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 9, 2010 Author Share Posted February 9, 2010 I love books, but I don't see where it makes much sense to print reference books these days. I've never seen a Deadbase book. Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted February 9, 2010 Share Posted February 9, 2010 Today is the anniversary of the below: Band Grateful DeadVenue Roscoe Maples Pavilion - Stanford UniversityLocation Palo Alto, CADate 2/9/73 - Friday The show has the first performances of Row Jimmy, Loose Lucy, Here Comes Sunshine, They Love Each Other, Eyes of the World, China Doll and Wave that Flag. Hell of a lot of nice first time songs played. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 10, 2010 Author Share Posted February 10, 2010 Thanks to the book I got the other day, I am checking this show out: Grateful Dead Live at Giants Stadium on 1991-06-17 Link to post Share on other sites
dtram Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Thanks to the book I got the other day, I am checking this show out: Grateful Dead Live at Giants Stadium on 1991-06-17 That show looks pretty sick, opening up with Eyes might have been a clue. Is it worth a snatch )spending a snowy day snatching Floyd and Dead shows) and if so, have you found a SBD or matrix that may be better than the archive recording you linked to? Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 11, 2010 Author Share Posted February 11, 2010 That show looks pretty sick, opening up with Eyes might have been a clue. Is it worth a snatch )spending a snowy day snatching Floyd and Dead shows) and if so, have you found a SBD or matrix that may be better than the archive recording you linked to? If you click on (check for other copies)it will list all the versions up at Archive.org. Of course, you won't be able to snag the SBD version. But - fear not - you can go to bt.etree.org and probably find it. If not there, I am sure it is out there somewhere. I am still looking for this show (which is still a dead seed at bt.etree.org): MOTB Release: 0046 16bit/44.1KhzRelease Date: 09/11/2007Band: Jerry Garcia and Merl SaundersDate: 06/04/1975 - WednesdayVenue: KeystoneLocation: Berkeley, CASource: Audience FOB RecordingMedia: Maxell UD90Lineage: Sony ECM-270 and ECM-250 [Positioned Onstage] > Sony TC-152 > MACTransfer: MAC > Nak Dragon > LynxTWO-B > WaveLab 5.0 > HD 24/96 WAVTaper: Bob Menke and Louis FalangaTransfer: Bob MenkeMastering: Derek McCabe Link to post Share on other sites
dtram Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 I am still looking for this show (which is still a dead seed at bt.etree.org): Can't help you there. I found this on etree: http://bt.etree.org/details.php?id=520974 Guess I'll grab this one. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 11, 2010 Author Share Posted February 11, 2010 Good to hear. That Jerry show seems to be a dead seed everywhere. Oh well - I will get it eventually. Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Thanks to the book I got the other day, I am checking this show out: Grateful Dead Live at Giants Stadium on 1991-06-17 I think I probably snagged this show from bt-etree because of the Taper book, too. I try to snag the shows that are in "Tapes to get:" sections from each year and obviously this is one of the them. It is a great audience recording. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 11, 2010 Author Share Posted February 11, 2010 For me, it's a new world, as I really only listen to shows from 1968-1974. Link to post Share on other sites
mountain bed Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 Thanks to the book I got the other day, I am checking this show out: Grateful Dead Live at Giants Stadium on 1991-06-17That's a good 'un. Around that time ABC had a late night show called "In Concert" and they aired an hour of that show. I snagged it on VHS. Guess I should give it a spin! Link to post Share on other sites
NightOfJoy Posted February 11, 2010 Share Posted February 11, 2010 For me, it's a new world, as I really only listen to shows from 1968-1974. Thats not a bad place to be at all! If you havent already, check out 10/12 and 10/13/68. The Eleven and Cryptical are insane. Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted February 11, 2010 Author Share Posted February 11, 2010 Speaking of tapes, check out this article: A Taper’s Section Night to Remember…Grateful Dead Play Chapel Hill 3/24/93 Link to post Share on other sites
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