Jeff Tweedy talks about New Album to Spin

[Guest Speed Racer]

Probably because "Country Disappeared" blows.

[Moss]

Truth.

 

I also have to say I think the tentative title of "Get Well Soon Everybody" comes off a little...smarmy? Condescending? Self-righteous?

 

I like to think of it as hopeful and heartfelt but you could be right.

[u2roolz]

I'm pretty sure it will be titled Get Well Soon Everybody a.k.a VC Carm Down!

[Guest Speed Racer]

I like to think of it as hopeful and heartfelt but you could be right.

 

I'm sure it's both of the above, but that doesn't mean it can't also be what I described it as. A title like that presumes the "everybody" is unwell, and I think that's a pretty terrible outlook on life, don't you?

[bleedorange]

I'm sure it's both of the above, but that doesn't mean it can't also be what I described it as. A title like that presumes the "everybody" is unwell, and I think that's a pretty terrible outlook on life, don't you?

 

I've been pretty stopped up all week, so if I heard that song now, it would fit perfectly.

[Guest Speed Racer]

"Get Well Soon, Bleedorange."

 

That has a certain ring to it. Not that you can hear it, sinuses being what they are.

[u2roolz]

I think Song For Jane Smiley's Boyfriend is really going to divide this place into two separate factions: one who relishes 10 verses and the other who wants more whistling (a la The Ruling Class).

 

Tweedy, I don't have 14 minutes to listen to a song. I think 11 minutes (Spiders) is enough, don't you? How can I come here and post? And I can't even listen to the song if I go grocery shopping because that's right down the street which means that you owe me gas money when I stay in my car to finish your art. {house band plays}

[Guest Speed Racer]

I groaned at first about the lengthy song, still tired from hearing I'll Fight for the first time, but I do like Mountain Bed, Spiders and LTYT, so I suppose there's a 75% chance I won't think it's terrible.

[bleedorange]

"Get Well Soon, Bleedorange."

 

That has a certain ring to it. Not that you can hear it, sinuses being what they are.

 

Now that sounds like a song I can get behind. Or an album.

[moxiebean]

BT

YHF

AGIB

KT

AM

GWSE

W(TA)

SBS

[bleedorange]

BT

YHF

AGIB

KT

AM

GWSE

W(TA)

SBS

 

I laughed.

[Bosco]

the point about all this "not liking something straight off cos you haven't spent time listening to it" is all i really get annoyed about. if you're going to take that view then you also have to take the view that people who say they love the album straight away are also fallible to making errors on judging the quality of the music.

The problem being that some music is more involved and does take several listens to fully comprehend, so it can grow on you to the point where a song you didn't really care for on first listen becomes your favorite song after 10.

 

it's also the same as when people say "it's just your opinion that you don't like it, but everyone elses opinion on it is EQUALLY as valid" - that view of things, to me, makes everyone's opinion not have EQUALLY high value, it makes everyone's opinion have EQUALLY low value, or rather - no value at all.

Exactly, now you get it, no one else's opinion DOES mater, you shouldn't base your opinion on what other's opinions are, one of the reason's I hate award shows.

 

this is because it completely removes the element of knowledge and ability out of the equation, putting everyone on an equal playing field of musical or artistic understanding - and as we can assume that no human being can know absolutely everything about a given subject (here being music), it must follow that every human being must know nothing about the subject, if we are to all be equal.

And just when I thought you got it, damn. You don't NEED to be knowledgeable about music to enjoy it, it's either something you enjoy, or you don't, you don't need to know WHY, you do however need to be knowledgeable to PLAY music.

[gogo]

I also have to say I think the tentative title of "Get Well Soon Everybody" comes off a little...smarmy? Condescending? Self-righteous?

Watch it.

[Moss]

I'm sure it's both of the above, but that doesn't mean it can't also be what I described it as. A title like that presumes the "everybody" is unwell, and I think that's a pretty terrible outlook on life, don't you?

 

Agreed, it does come across as very pessimistic regardless of intent.

[Guest Speed Racer]

Watch it.

 

I just can't say one without the other. They go together so well.

 

"Smarmy, Condescending, Hurtful Hits" could be a great name for an album, though.

[jff]

 

And just when I thought you got it, damn. You don't NEED to be knowledgeable about music to enjoy it, it's either something you enjoy, or you don't, you don't need to know WHY, you do however need to be knowledgeable to PLAY music.

 

There's a huge difference between "musical or artistic understanding", which is the phrase you quoted, and musical enjoyment.

 

Sometimes you might LIKE one thing better, but the other thing actually IS better.

 

You might enjoy looking at Thomas Kinkade's artwork more than you like looking at Salvador Dali's artwork. But that doesn't change the fact that Dali is a better artist than Thomas Kinkade.

[nalafej]

I have to say that I get pretty excited reading the words in Spin and RS. It is all good. I'm confident that there will be a number of songs on the new album that are going to be awesome.

 

The title is a little depressing I guess.

 

thanks for the entertaining thread everyone. This is why I love vc.

[RainDogToo]

I'm not really sure why yet, but I really like the working title and I hope it becomes official. On another note, wasn't the working title for YHF "Here Comes Everybody?" Just wondering...

[JAK2112]

I'm excited for the Art of Almost, and Song for Jane Smiley's boyfriend. Just getting that out of the way now.

[The High Heat]

wasn't the working title for YHF "Here Comes Everybody?"

Yes.

[Bosco]

There's a huge difference between "musical or artistic understanding", which is the phrase you quoted, and musical enjoyment.

 

Sometimes you might LIKE one thing better, but the other thing actually IS better.

 

You might enjoy looking at Thomas Kinkade's artwork more than you like looking at Salvador Dali's artwork. But that doesn't change the fact that Dali is a better artist than Thomas Kinkade.

 

I'll just have to respectfully and whole heartedly disagree. Music and all art forms are there for appreciation, and should only be graded on your appreciation. I don't care how fast a guitar player can play, if it doesn't feel like to me it came from the heart, then it's crap, it may have been technically speaking the fastest and hardest riff to play known to man, that doesn't make it good or better then Syd Barret playing the same chord for a whole song.

[jff]

I'll just have to respectfully and whole heartedly disagree. Music and all art forms are there for appreciation, and should only be graded on your appreciation. I don't care how fast a guitar player can play, if it doesn't feel like to me it came from the heart, then it's crap, it may have been technically speaking the fastest and hardest riff to play known to man, that doesn't make it good or better then Syd Barret playing the same chord for a whole song.

 

We're not talking about the same thing here.

[rhino4evr]

Gotta say the Spin atricle made me more excited for the album..not that I wasn't excited before. I think Wilco (the album) was a real low point in the bands writing. It felt generic and rushed compared to their other material. It's the only album of theirs I rarely listen to. Reading that they took a break and really spent time writing gives me high hopes that they are back on track. I fell in love with the "experimental folk rock" wilco, so I am hoping this new album heads more in that direction.

 

An Epic double album would be really awesome. Something like Being There meets Ghost is Born.

[Atticus]

Sometimes you might LIKE one thing better, but the other thing actually IS better.

 

You might enjoy looking at Thomas Kinkade's artwork more than you like looking at Salvador Dali's artwork. But that doesn't change the fact that Dali is a better artist than Thomas Kinkade.

 

I'll just have to respectfully and whole heartedly disagree. Music and all art forms are there for appreciation, and should only be graded on your appreciation. I don't care how fast a guitar player can play, if it doesn't feel like to me it came from the heart, then it's crap, it may have been technically speaking the fastest and hardest riff to play known to man, that doesn't make it good or better then Syd Barret playing the same chord for a whole song.

 

We're not talking about the same thing here.

 

I think I get where you're coming from, jff, but like Bosco I have to disagree. If a guitar player plays faster, than I can describe him as a faster player. If she is versed in a wider, more expansive world of chords and/or theory, then I can describe her as versed in a wider, more expansive world of chords and/or theory. But if someone prefers the paintings of Kinkade to Dali, that person is free to describe Kinkade as a better painter, as irritating as it may be to art snobs.

 

"better" is in the eye of the beholder. Other terms and adjectives can be used to get into the nitty gritty of certain skills and aptitudes.

[Bosco]

We're not talking about the same thing here.

 

We are, but that's ok, I just disagree with the premise that art is only "good" if the so called artist uses proper technique and is critically acclaimed to be a genius.