A heart I know by heart Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Here is an excerpt from an interview with Bob Weir in 2010 Are there any contemporary jam bands that you think have the stuff that The Grateful Dead had? Is there anybody that you see out there that you admire?“Yeah, I’m a big fan of Wilco’s, for instance. I don’t so much care for their records as I love what they do live. Having played on the same bill with them a couple of times, I was dazzled. Aside from that, really, I don’t listen to a lot of current, contemporary music. And so I’m not the one to ask.”The entire interview can be read here:http://blogs.mcall.com/lehighvalleymusic/2010/02/contacting-the-dead-bob-weir-talks-about-going-furthur-with-phil-lesh.html Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shug Posted April 19, 2012 Share Posted April 19, 2012 Its a bit validating to me to hear Weir with basically the same opinion as me about live Wilco vs. Wilco in the studio. I guess there is an aesthetic that links Wilco and the Grateful Dead, at least for me. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A heart I know by heart Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 Its a bit validating to me to hear Weir with basically the same opinion as me about live Wilco vs. Wilco in the studio. I guess there is an aesthetic that links Wilco and the Grateful Dead, at least for me. Me too... they are the two bands that I listen to the most, by far. They are different for me in that I don't consider Wilco a jam band, but there is something that attracts my ear in a different way with the two bands compared to other bands. I love how both the Dead and Wilco can rock and captivate an audience with the mellow, poetic stuff... versatile, unique, entertaining and beautifully complex. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 can anyone point me to a song where the Dead actually rock? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Fritz Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 can anyone point me to a song where the Dead actually rock? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 that got pretty close! good tune. still has more noodles than a chinese restaurant at times... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I guess this means Wilco IS a jam band. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I guess this means Wilco IS a jam band. LouieB Or it might mean the Grateful Dead is not a jam band. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
IRememberDBoon Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 string cheese incident is a jamband Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shug Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 can anyone point me to a song where the Dead actually rock? Dude, are you serious or are you being facetious? The Dead covered Chuck Berry, fer Chrissakes. It doesn't get any more rock 'n' roll than Johnny B Goode. I'm seriously trying to understand your question, because even the most casual music fan surely knows that the Dead played plenty of up-tempo tunes. If you are sincerely wanting to know the names of their faster songs, then try One More Saturday Night, Sugar Magnolia, Might As Well, Deal, Promised Land, Alabama Getaway, Greatest Story Every Told, Big Railroad Blues, Going Down The Road Feeling Bad, Beat It On Down The Line, etc etc. Trying to convince people who don't like the Dead that the Dead were good is usually a fruitless and frustrating experience. Either you are the kind of person who gets what they do or you aren't. But if you are suggesting that the Dead never rocked, then you just don't know that much about the Dead, with all due respect. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Or it might mean the Grateful Dead is not a jam band.That's wishful thinking. Meanwhile the Dead did rock in a sort of mellow way. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
calvino Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I am not sure when the term jam band took root - but I think I was listening to the Dead before I heard about the phrase "jam band" - At least I don't remember ever saying to someone who wasn't familiar with the Grateful Dead - "I going to see The Grateful Dead - you know that great jam band". I never thought of the Dead as a "jam band". That's just me, though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Analogman Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I agree. It was in the early 1990s. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 can anyone point me to a song where the Dead actually rock? I agree with Shug's post above, but in any event, try Greatest Story Ever Told on for size. And if that doesn't "rock" for you, we have different definitions of "rock." http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PAEjVR1hsvA Quote Link to post Share on other sites
choo-choo-charlie Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 'rock' has little correlation with 'tempo' i agree, we have much different definitions. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A heart I know by heart Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 can anyone point me to a song where the Dead actually rock? Check this one out... starts 45 second into the video Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A heart I know by heart Posted April 20, 2012 Author Share Posted April 20, 2012 can anyone point me to a song where the Dead actually rock? One more rockin' tune from the Dead Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Shug Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 'rock' has little correlation with 'tempo' i agree, we have much different definitions. so what are you looking for here with your original question? Care to share your definition of 'rock'? I mean, I can make an educated guess, based on the bands you seem to like (a lot of metal and punk, from what I can tell) but still, in all sincerity, it'd be interesting to hear your thoughts about what rocks and what doesn't. My guess is you ain't gonna find any Dead songs that fit your definition of rock, they never had anything to do with punk or metal and aggression and anger were very rarely, if ever, explored in their music. AndI think that the correlation between rock and tempo is a matter of opinion, not fact. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 So maybe we can agree to agree that "jam band" is kind of a dumb title for any band. LouieB Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bleedorange Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Was someone going to try to post an example of the Grateful Dead where they actually rock? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Before The Black Crowes covered this, a LOT of people thought this was a Grateful Dead original. Otis who?http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bD_36cuiXvU Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bleedorange Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 Before The Black Crowes covered this, a LOT of people thought this was a Grateful Dead original. Otis who? That's really sad. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
choo-choo-charlie Posted April 20, 2012 Share Posted April 20, 2012 I wasn't even aware the GD performed that. I remember hearing the Crowes play it when I was a kid, and then discovering Otis' original. That's the first time I've seen or heard this take. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted April 21, 2012 Share Posted April 21, 2012 Was someone going to try to post an example of the Grateful Dead where they actually rock?Do you think any of those folks in the audience in that Hard to Handle video are still waiting for the Dead to rock? i agree, we have much different definitions.Yes, your choice of photo makes that clear! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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