sonnyfeeling Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 On the last couple Wilco tours, I was mildly disappointed (but only mildly) that the set lists began to fall into a predictable routine, as though they had been lovingly hand-crafted from an artisanal cookie cutter. Boy oh boy is that not the case with this latest tour. I was initially concerned that these abbreviated (75-minute) festival sets would be the same ol' same ol', with Wilco's greatest hits show after show. Wrong. To quote Stephen Colbert: "Great set lists? Or the greatest set lists?" I looked at the first nine Wilco AmericanaramA set lists and did a little quick analysis:13-16 songs per set, drawn from a list (so far) of 70 titlesOnly two songs have been played at nearly every show:Art of Almost (9)Dawned On Me (8)11 songs have been played at 3-5 shows:Impossible Germany (5)Born Alone (5)Hesitating Beauty (4)Via Chicago (4)California Stars (4)I'm the Man Who Loves You (4)Shouldn't Be Ashamed (3)I Got You (3)Sloth (with Richard Thompson) (3)Heavy Metal Drummer (3)Jesus, Etc. (3)Another 11 songs have been played only twice, and 46 songs performed only once in the nine sets so far. A lot of covers and (as is appropriate for an Americana tour) lots of Woody Guthrie tunes, including a Mermaid Avenue outtake that's never been played publicly before. That's astonishing. I sure hope this entire run goes up on the Roadcase, ideally as a complete collection. At these prices, it's hard to believe anyone is following the band around from show to show. But I now wish I had overruled my initial pessimism and made plans to see multiple shows instead of just the one in Denver. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 god how I miss free time. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalafej Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Great write up. Quite a bit different from the '08 opening for Neil Young tour where they did the same ol' same ol' Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sonnyfeeling Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 god how I miss free time. Well, I do Excel stuff for a living, so I can justify this sort of data analysis as "training" and "software evaluation." Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 I have been thinking along the exact same lines. After the incredible "Evening with Wilco" shows (2010?), where they had an acoustic set in the middle and knocked out 30-something songs, the next couple of years became fairly predictable. Of course, when you're not actually at a show, a list of pretty great songs can look ho-hum. But for diehards, it was becoming rather stale. I bought my ticket for Tampa thinking, "Well, they're in my city, with Dylan, so of course I will see them." When they added Weir to the festival, my excitement level went up (more bang for my buck!), but I didn't have high expectations, really. Then they played Ripple in West Palm, and reading about that got me pumped up. When they knocked out Dead Flowers and Friend of the Devil, I was in some kind of Wilco/Deadhead heaven. I had to make the trek to Atlanta to see what happened next. They surpassed my expectations again, playing Dark Star>Cali Stars>Dark Star.And they just keep going: Sloth. Who Loves the Sun. Cinnamon Girl. Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald??Seriously, if they're trying to create a situation where there are Wilcoheads following them around the way people used to follow the Dead, they are doing a damn fine job of it... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
blureu Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Thanks for the analysis. How many shows are currently available to listen? 3? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Well, I do Excel stuff for a living, so I can justify this sort of data analysis as "training" and "software evaluation." I wasn't being critical. I was completely and totally enviously serious. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
indy81 Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 If you look at the setlists from 2012-2013, there's actually more variety than it seems. It's just that the 3-4 rarities that get played every night get drowned out by all of the standards. The AmericanaramA setlists are so exciting because they keep the rarities and have cut back on the number of standards. Plus the guest spots have been thrilling and unpredictable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sonnyfeeling Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 If you look at the setlists from 2012-2013, there's actually more variety than it seems. It's just that the 3-4 rarities that get played every night get drowned out by all of the standards. The AmericanaramA setlists are so exciting because they keep the rarities and have cut back on the number of standards. Plus the guest spots have been thrilling and unpredictable. Yeah, I did an analysis of those set lists when the tours were underway. There were slots every night for inserting a deep track, but for the most part everything followed a standard template. It was designed to sell The Whole Love, so understandable, but still... I can't find those posts now, unfortunately, because the site search doesn't go back that far and apparently Via Chicago has search indexing turned off so posts don't appear in Google or Bing. Bummer. Thanks for the analysis. How many shows are currently available to listen? 3? The security on this tour is really tough, so the only recordings that have leaked out have been stealth. I think there are three shows in circulation right now, but you could look at the In A Future Age board to get a definitive answer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
smells like flowers Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 Great to read your synopsis of the setlists thus far! I started feeling a little regretful about missing out, but checked airfare today and even though there are plenty of tickets (even GA floor seats!) for the venue I was looking at, airfare is crazy expensive and I can't swing it. Boo hoo hoo. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
gr8fulpete Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 I realize I'm asking a bit much, but I would love to see your analysis include a listing of the songs played only once. Looking forward to the NY area shows -- my only Wilco fix this summer other than Solid Sound (which was amazing). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sonnyfeeling Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 I realize I'm asking a bit much, but I would love to see your analysis include a listing of the songs played only once. Looking forward to the NY area shows -- my only Wilco fix this summer other than Solid Sound (which was amazing). I'll do that after the tour is over. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 I'll do that after the tour is over.Cool! Spreadsheets! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
choo-choo-charlie Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 That's a spreadsheet I'd study. These set lists have been incredible to just watch. I'm keeping my fingers crossed for a Roadcase release too. An Americanarama anthology would be most excellent. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sonnyfeeling Posted July 10, 2013 Author Share Posted July 10, 2013 OK, if anyone wants to study the spreadsheet (read-only, but you can download and remix to your heart's content), go here:http://sdrv.ms/189GN5U It's a live document, so I'll be updating it as each new show is documented. The structure is as follows: Set Lists (tab 1), Song list (tab 2), and Pivot Table listing songs by number of times played, in descending order (tab 3). Quote Link to post Share on other sites
JayK Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 OK, if anyone wants to study the spreadsheet (read-only, but you can download and remix to your heart's content), go here: http://sdrv.ms/189GN5U It's a live document, so I'll be updating it as each new show is documented. The structure is as follows: Set Lists (tab 1), Song list (tab 2), and Pivot Table listing songs by number of times played, in descending order (tab 3).Fantastic. Thanks! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Cold as Gasoline Posted July 10, 2013 Share Posted July 10, 2013 OK, if anyone wants to study the spreadsheet (read-only, but you can download and remix to your heart's content), go here: http://sdrv.ms/189GN5U It's a live document, so I'll be updating it as each new show is documented. The structure is as follows: Set Lists (tab 1), Song list (tab 2), and Pivot Table listing songs by number of times played, in descending order (tab 3). I love your spreadsheet! I'm such a nerd. Sadly, last night I was making a spreadsheet of all the Wilco and Tweedy shows I've seen and what their setlists are so I can run some stats Will be adding the Friday Americanarama show to that spreadsheet soon! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
kidsmoke Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 What a buncha computer nerds! Thank you, sonny! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
linclink Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 OK, if anyone wants to study the spreadsheet (read-only, but you can download and remix to your heart's content), go here: http://sdrv.ms/189GN5U It's a live document, so I'll be updating it as each new show is documented. The structure is as follows: Set Lists (tab 1), Song list (tab 2), and Pivot Table listing songs by number of times played, in descending order (tab 3).This rocks, thanks!! That they are playing 15 songs, 75 min. & mixing it up sooooo much is just part of why I'm going.I'll be in Toronto, mostly because they are likely to play with Richard Thompson & I get to see the Richard Thompson Electric Trio too!But I'll probably try & make Darien Lake (hate the venue, but great tickets are becoming available at very cheap prices now), & maybe Hoboken (since it's general admission, tickets will be very cheap & I think I may need to come to NYC to pick up a Gibson J-200 I'm hopefully, buying), or any of those June 26-28 NYC/Philly area shows (Jones Beach & Camden- but I hate that Camden venue as well)... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 I have been thinking along the exact same lines. After the incredible "Evening with Wilco" shows (2010?), where they had an acoustic set in the middle and knocked out 30-something songs, the next couple of years became fairly predictable. Of course, when you're not actually at a show, a list of pretty great songs can look ho-hum. But for diehards, it was becoming rather stale. I bought my ticket for Tampa thinking, "Well, they're in my city, with Dylan, so of course I will see them." When they added Weir to the festival, my excitement level went up (more bang for my buck!), but I didn't have high expectations, really. Then they played Ripple in West Palm, and reading about that got me pumped up. When they knocked out Dead Flowers and Friend of the Devil, I was in some kind of Wilco/Deadhead heaven. I had to make the trek to Atlanta to see what happened next. They surpassed my expectations again, playing Dark Star>Cali Stars>Dark Star.And they just keep going: Sloth. Who Loves the Sun. Cinnamon Girl. Wreck of the Edmund Fitzgerald??Seriously, if they're trying to create a situation where there are Wilcoheads following them around the way people used to follow the Dead, they are doing a damn fine job of it...And don't forget Tomorrow Never Knows. Which from what I've seen of available YouTube vids, is right after Dark California Stars as the most blind blowing of all the Weir sit-ins. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Mr. Heartbreak Posted July 11, 2013 Share Posted July 11, 2013 How did I forget that and Bird Song? As a Deadhead, I have to say a mea culpa. My only excuse is that I blocked it out, because I wasn't there for it! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
sonnyfeeling Posted July 22, 2013 Author Share Posted July 22, 2013 I've been updating the spreadsheet regularly. With the tour now 2/3 over (18 down, 9 to go), the WIlco set lists are still showing astonishing variety. Art of Almost is played at every show. But 48 songs, or roughly three in every set, have been played only once on the entire tour. And another 25 songs have been played at only two or three shows. You can see the entire list here:http://sdrv.ms/189GN5U Feel free to sort and filter the list to your heart's content. You won't break anything. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
nalafej Posted August 5, 2013 Share Posted August 5, 2013 Can't wait for the final wrap up. I just went through the list of guests and it is really amazing. They range from up and coming of avant-garde musicians to the hall of famiest musicians around. Nancy SinatraJackson BrowneJohn DoeBob WeirBeckSean LennonWarren HaynesIan HunterRichard ThompsonLeslie FeistGarth HudsonMy Morning JacketRyan BinghamLowCibo MattoLuciusRichard BowdenTaras ProdaniukMichael JeromeRoger ManningJames Mastro Quote Link to post Share on other sites
A heart I know by heart Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 Can't wait for the final wrap up. I just went through the list of guests and it is really amazing. They range from up and coming of avant-garde musicians to the hall of famiest musicians around. Nancy SinatraJackson BrowneJohn DoeBob WeirBeckSean LennonWarren HaynesIan HunterRichard ThompsonLeslie FeistGarth HudsonMy Morning JacketRyan BinghamLowCibo MattoLuciusRichard BowdenTaras ProdaniukMichael JeromeRoger ManningJames MastroPeter Wolfe from J Geils too... Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Hixter Posted August 6, 2013 Share Posted August 6, 2013 If I counted correctly at setlist.fm, the band played 115 different songs during the tour. That's pretty remarkable. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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