Atticus Posted January 7, 2014 Author Share Posted January 7, 2014 The live sound is going to be better than the studio sound in most cases, I'd think, and with most bands. Particularly with the GD, too. I still think their studio stuff, Wake of the Flood, too, sounded good, regardless of the content on some of them. all I had time to listen to in the car on the way to lunch and back was American Beauty. It was a remastered version on Spotify. It seemed to have more low end than I remember on my copy. I think one of the things that bothers me with this album is the panning. It's just weird to hear the dead with a sort of Beatles-esque panning situation. And Jerry's electric guitar parts just sound flat and tinny to me, tone-wise. it just feels like the producer and engineer were trying to record the Dead as if they were some other band. Hard to articulate. But this re-master is sonically clearer. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 At what bit rate are you streaming Spotify? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Plumplechook Posted January 7, 2014 Share Posted January 7, 2014 Raw Power - Iggy and the Stooges. Sounds like it was recorded by someone with a hand-held mic two rooms away. Worst recording I've ever heard. This is the original vinyl release. Maybe it's been remastered on CD? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
worldrecordplayer Posted January 8, 2014 Share Posted January 8, 2014 all I had time to listen to in the car on the way to lunch and back was American Beauty. It was a remastered version on Spotify. It seemed to have more low end than I remember on my copy. I think one of the things that bothers me with this album is the panning. It's just weird to hear the dead with a sort of Beatles-esque panning situation. And Jerry's electric guitar parts just sound flat and tinny to me, tone-wise. it just feels like the producer and engineer were trying to record the Dead as if they were some other band. Hard to articulate. But this re-master is sonically clearer.Steve Barncard won't like reading that. Anyhow, he was experienced with the Dead and all the SF PERRO players at Wally Heiders. I may have already written it here, but my MOFI vinyl of Wake is the best sounding music I own. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted January 8, 2014 Author Share Posted January 8, 2014 Steve Barncard won't like reading that. Anyhow, he was experienced with the Dead and all the SF PERRO players at Wally Heiders. I may have already written it here, but my MOFI vinyl of Wake is the best sounding music I own.I like the content of American Beauty. I am only saying--dictated solely by my personal taste--that I would most likely more enjoy how it sounds if it had been recorded, produced, mixed and mastered differently. With no sarcasm I tell you I'm very happy if others love the sound of grateful dead records. As I've mentioned, it's been ages since I've listened to them, so I can only offer my opinions as I go through them again. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted January 10, 2014 Author Share Posted January 10, 2014 you know who was really good at recording guitars? Matthew Sweet Girlfriend and Altered Beast--whatever you think about the underlying lyrics or songs themselves--have some amazing guitar work, and it sounds like they're playing in the same room a few feet away. edit: had no idea that Jim Rondinelli, who is credited with engineering and mixing Girlfriend, is also credited with same for Being There. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
The Inside of Outside Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 you know who was really good at recording guitars? Matthew Sweet Girlfriend and Altered Beast--whatever you think about the underlying lyrics or songs themselves--have some amazing guitar work, and it sounds like they're playing in the same room a few feet away. edit: had no idea that Jim Rondinelli, who is credited with engineering and mixing Girlfriend, is also credited with same for Being There.I love the mixing on Girlfriend - crystal clear. Altered Beast, I struggle with. I think the number of guitars (sounds like a bunch) muddies it to my ear. Could just be that I am not able to discern the individual guitars well, though. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
tinnitus photography Posted January 10, 2014 Share Posted January 10, 2014 i went to a wedding where the bride's sister was married to Matthew Sweet. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Atticus Posted January 10, 2014 Author Share Posted January 10, 2014 I love the mixing on Girlfriend - crystal clear. Altered Beast, I struggle with. I think the number of guitars (sounds like a bunch) muddies it to my ear. Could just be that I am not able to discern the individual guitars well, though.I hear what you're saying but there are some amazing guitars on Altered Beast. The following come to mind: Dinosaur Act, Ugly Truth Rock, Do It Again, What Do You know? There are some weak-ass songs and junior high lyrics on that record but damn does it sound great Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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dagwave Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 absolutely, positively: Nothing.ok, then, Exile and also, Layla. But i just love those records so gosh darn much, I sorta stopped noticing. sorry bout the selfie-quote Quote Link to post Share on other sites
uncool2pillow Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 you know who was really good at recording guitars? Matthew Sweet Girlfriend and Altered Beast--whatever you think about the underlying lyrics or songs themselves--have some amazing guitar work, and it sounds like they're playing in the same room a few feet away. edit: had no idea that Jim Rondinelli, who is credited with engineering and mixing Girlfriend, is also credited with same for Being There.Absolutely agree. Love the mixing of the 2 guitar parts of the title track. So damn good. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Sweet Papa Crimbo Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 i went to a wedding where the bride's sister was married to Matthew Sweet. I hope not to DOES SHE TALK? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FdAmfWmgdPE Quote Link to post Share on other sites
mpolak21 Posted January 11, 2014 Share Posted January 11, 2014 Now Sky Blue Sky on the other hand, horrible. Atticus once described it perfectly (and I paraphrase) "it sounds like they lined up the amps in front of a wall of tampons and hit record". Quote Link to post Share on other sites
bigideas Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 R.E.M. Accelerate. It gave me a headache the first time through. There was no second time through. The songs sounded okay live, but the CD was just awful. Adventures in Hi-Fi - I know it was recorded part in studio / part in sound checks, etc., but I can barely listen to half of the songs. Any rather recent recordings that put minor (supposed to be hidden) Auto-Tune all over vocals. I'm not talking about T-Pain sound, but when people try to use it in a way closer to the original intent - unnoticeable and to correct minor pitch problems - but use it on the entire vocal. Being There dates itself some with the odd vocal effects choices that are most associated with the 90's. Other than that, I don't remember it sounding bad, and especially not ST or YHF. Donald Fagen - The Nightfly / I came to it because it was listed in one of the best recorded albums of all time in a recording magazine. I bought a CD that was probably made in the 80's and there is ZERO bass. Even in my vehicle which pushes bass too much, I barely hear any bass. I think this album is what some engineers use to test sound systems, so this is something I have wondered about: Are a lot of CD's pressed in the 80's mastered poorly with little bass presence? Quote Link to post Share on other sites
froggie Posted January 13, 2014 Share Posted January 13, 2014 exactly - they sound like they're out of a tin can! Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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