Analogman Posted December 23, 2022 Share Posted December 23, 2022 2 hours ago, Albert Tatlock said: I also heard yesterday that the last ever Doc Martin is going out over Christmas and I immediately thought of you LOL. It's funny that I've never seen a single episode. I don't think I have ever got to see the last two seasons they made. I'll have to see if they are streaming somewhere here. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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brownie Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 On 12/24/2022 at 4:43 AM, chuckrh said: What did you think of this? I struggled with the idea that this film is classified as a comedy. I struggled with the film in general and didn’t really like it very much. I saw Babylon the other day and absolutely hated it. I thought it was a self-indulgent, offensive piece of trash and can’t believe it’s nominated for five Golden Globe awards. I think it’s been a very weak year for film releases during the holidays. Usually there’s a whole bunch of new films released just before or on Christmas that I want to see over Christmas/New Years. This year, Babylon is the only one that interested me at all. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chuckrh Posted December 29, 2022 Share Posted December 29, 2022 4 hours ago, brownie said: What did you think of this? I struggled with the idea that this film is classified as a comedy. I struggled with the film in general and didn’t really like it very much. I saw Babylon the other day and absolutely hated it. I thought it was a self-indulgent, offensive piece of trash and can’t believe it’s nominated for five Golden Globe awards. I think it’s been a very weak year for film releases during the holidays. Usually there’s a whole bunch of new films released just before or on Christmas that I want to see over Christmas/New Years. This year, Babylon is the only one that interested me at all. Ya, it definitely wasn't a comedy. I checked it out because of the good reviews. In that category, I thought the Fabelmans was much better. The holiday movie schedule was definitely lame this year. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug C Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 On 12/22/2022 at 9:01 AM, chuckrh said: Ya, ending not the best. Film better than most of the crap out there. Aubrey is really good in it. My wife and I enjoyed this. Aubrey Plaza was excellent and I agree it was "better than most of the crap out there". Could the ending have been better? Maybe, but it could have been much worse. Hell, due to the comment on the previous page re the ending, I was expecting the main character to kill everyone with a box cutter and become the new credit card fraud king of L.A. From how bad the ending was supposed to be, I honestly didn't know what to expect. I've seen movies that required some serious suspension of disbelief. This wasn't one of them. Due to her circumstances and situations, I could understand her saying "Fuck it" and going full selfish criminal. As far as ending up where she did? It's possible. SPOILER ALERT She could have driven to Mexico (I assume it was Mexico) before Johnny and Janey Law kicked her door in the next morning. There are far more unlikely outcomes. It's interesting how folks can have such different reactions. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chuckrh Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 9 hours ago, Doug C said: My wife and I enjoyed this. Aubrey Plaza was excellent and I agree it was "better than most of the crap out there". Could the ending have been better? Maybe, but it could have been much worse. Hell, due to the previous comment, I was expecting the main character to kill everyone with a box cutter and become the new credit card fraud king of L.A. From how bad the ending was supposed to be, I honestly didn't know what to expect. I've seen movies that required some serious suspension of disbelief. This wasn't one of them. Due to her circumstances and situations, I could understand her saying "Fuck it" and going full selfish criminal. As far as ending up where she did? It's possible. SPOILER ALERT She could have driven to Mexico (I assume it was Mexico) before Johnny and Janey Law kicked her door in the next morning. There are far more unlikely outcomes. It's interesting how folks can have such different reactions. I just thought it was a bit abrupt, I wanted more. The film wasn't that long & they could've shown how Aubrey got to that place for instance. I still liked the movie. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug C Posted December 31, 2022 Share Posted December 31, 2022 1 hour ago, chuckrh said: I just thought it was a bit abrupt, I wanted more. The film wasn't that long & they could've shown how Aubrey got to that place for instance. I still liked the movie. I agree. It was abrupt and I would rather have watched how she got there instead of speculate on it. There is a difference between an abrupt ending and an ending requiring an egregious suspension of disbelief. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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Beltmann Posted January 1, 2023 Author Share Posted January 1, 2023 Here's my problem with the ending of Emily the Criminal: It's the ending of a much dumber movie than the one it purports to be, and a much dumber movie than the one we've been watching. Let me dive into the weeds simply by asking some questions. Spoilers ahead. Why does Emily not at least tie up Khalil before leaving the premises? Why does she simply leave Youcef to die in the car? Just moments earlier, she chose to leave a phone for her injured enemy Khalil to call for help, so why doesn't she also give the same grace to her beloved partner? The scene doesn't work as a wrenching either-or scenario; Emily has options to help Youcef, including using the payphone that she sits near. Why do the police raid her apartment with guns drawn? To their knowledge, they are investigating a non-lethal burglary, not a hardboiled Colombian drug lord. At which bank can you empty a multi-million dollar bank account in cash withdrawals overnight? We'll have to ask Khalil. How does Emily escape to what appears to be Ecuador with nothing but a bag of cash? How does she set up the fraud ring with almost zero local connections? How would this even work? All of her stolen credit card numbers are American and will invite scrutiny. How is she getting more numbers? Youcef never taught her that part of the business and his link-up is surely on the run now that the business has been blown up and is being investigated. Why is Emily paying her South American employees the same rate that was offered to criminals in Los Angeles? How many stores in a picturesque seaside town are selling upscale HDTVs? How many buyers for stolen high-end TVs are there in such a town? How, exactly, does this business plan make sense? If it were a worse movie, that ending might be forgivable. I mean, it is indeed cool. But what made Emily the Criminal better than average was its interest in carefully elucidating the procedural details of Emily's new career. That's why it's so jarring, and disappointing, to witness the movie throw that attention to detail aside to deliver a cool ending that better suits a direct-to-DVD enterprise. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Doug C Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 I didn't think about any of that. After explaining, I understand your issues. Hell, I'll give it a go. Maybe she just wanted to get the hell out of Khalil's, and/or in such a high stress situation, she didn't think it all through. Re leaving Youcef to die, maybe she realized he used her. My wife and I commented on that. When he lost it all, he showed he was a selfish asshole. Maybe Emily realized that it's now me uber alles or I have no chance at survival. Re the police, I assumed Khalil or Youcef IDed her. Maybe there was some evidence we aren't privy to. Any number of possibilities. Non-lethal? A man was stabbed with a box cutter. Another was given a serious head wound and was dying (You said "left to die"). I did actually think about her needing information and materials to get started in a foreign country. I assumed she met criminals or figured it out. It happens. I didn't put much thought into it. Who knows how far in the future the last scene is? Having been often screwed over herself in the working world, maybe she wants to be a fair criminal boss. Or any number of things. I agree re the business plan. She might find that out. Once the credits roll, the characters lives go on unbeknownst to us. Wait for the sequel "Emily the Inept Criminal". I didn't think the ending was cool. I just thought that it was one of many possible endings. We do not know what the director's motivations were. We can speculate, though. Maybe he didn't have the funding to make a longer movie and tie up all your loose ends. Maybe he did, but the finished product was his entire vision. Maybe a journalist will ask these questions and we'll get the answers. Until then. 1 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
Boss_Tweedy Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 I didn't watch a lot of new movies in 2022, but I very much enjoyed this one on New Year's Eve. Quote Link to post Share on other sites
chuckrh Posted January 1, 2023 Share Posted January 1, 2023 14 minutes ago, Boss_Tweedy said: I didn't watch a lot of new movies in 2022, but I very much enjoyed this one on New Year's Eve. It was worth it just to watch David Lynch lighting a cigar. He was fantastic. Michelle Williams was, too. 2 Quote Link to post Share on other sites
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