Reni Posted October 29, 2006 Share Posted October 29, 2006 bah. I have been waving the Eckstein flag for a couple years now......stats or not, I love him. Link to post Share on other sites
jenbobblehead Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 i can certainly vouch for Kate's Eck love. She could NOT stop talking about how cute he was when we were at the game in STL last year. Link to post Share on other sites
Reni Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 that is so not true it's all about the Carp..... (and Yadi) Link to post Share on other sites
IATTBYB Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Belated congrats to the Cards and their fans for the WS win. And a huge thanks to the Tigers for a fantastic and exciting summer of baseball in the D. Link to post Share on other sites
LouieB Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 I am going to guess that this is one of the lowest rated World Series ever. Besides it being two midwest teams (which I personally liked), Detroit prety much self destructed and many of the games were downright boring. Congrats to Tony LaRussa and the Cards in any event. LouieB Link to post Share on other sites
quarter23cd Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Besides it being two midwest teams (which I personally liked), Detroit prety much self destructed and many of the games were downright boring.Yeah, I got up one morning and somebody told me the Cards had won the World Series and my response was "Oh crap, that was last night?? I thought it was an off day." That's how closely I followed the Series this year, I guess. The only game I watched in its entirety was the poo-hand game. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 It was the lowest ever. Mostly because there are a total of maybe 3 legitimate well known superstars between the teams, one of which flies totally under the radar (Carpenter), one who has the steroid user label in the eyes of a number of people (Pudge), and the other who is probably the best player in the league right now, and has no dirt on him, but is not marketed at all on a national level (Pujols). Add to that the fact that the only player on either team anyone in the media wrote about for the duration of the series was 2 foot 1 barefoot, 40 pounds soaking wet manchild named "Gritdid McGritstein". Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted October 30, 2006 Author Share Posted October 30, 2006 bobbob has been reading FireJoeMorgan. Very nice. Anyway, I just wanted to say that I don't think the reason people don't tune in to watch Pudge anymore has anything to do with steroids. I think it has to do with the fact that he just hasn't been a very good hitter in the last few years. It's of course entirely possible that this decline is due to not being juiced anymore, but I think that people would have lost interest with the decline in numbers even if his steroid use had remained a secret. Link to post Share on other sites
bjorn_skurj Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 Catching is hard on hitting. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 bobbob has been reading FireJoeMorgan. Very nice. This new kick they are on of posting every single article that has to do with David Eckstein is hysterical. Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted October 30, 2006 Author Share Posted October 30, 2006 Actually, I think they've gone a bit too far with it (most of them are the same -- just listing the cliches used in the articles to describe him). It was funny at first, but I wish they'd give it a rest now. However, this was pure brilliance... TINY LITTLE ECKSTEIN ACTUALLY BIG AND GRITTYSmall Eck Comes Up Big Vs. TigersDiminutive Star Big at Heart by Ken Tremendous Picture it: Joel Zumaya, the Detroit Tigers Link to post Share on other sites
H to the ickle Posted October 30, 2006 Share Posted October 30, 2006 That made my afternoon. For the record: Wohoo! The Cardinals won the Series in my lifetime! Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted October 30, 2006 Author Share Posted October 30, 2006 I swear, any year but this one and I'd be excited as all hell for the Cards. Oh well... Better losing to the Cardinals than just about anybody else. Link to post Share on other sites
oceanman Posted October 31, 2006 Share Posted October 31, 2006 David is on Jay Leno.........Yeahhhhh Bitches! Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 AL Gold Gloves: P: Kenny Rogers, DetroitC: Ivan Rodriguez, Detroit1B: Mark Texeira, Texas2B: Mark Grudzielanek, Kansas CitySS: Derek Jeter, New York3B: Eric Chavez, OaklandOF: Ichiro Suzuki, SeattleOF: Torii Hunter, MinnesotaOF: Vernon Wells, Toronto I can see 2 glaring problems with this list. They are the middle infielders. Luis Castillo should have won the GG, and Derek Jeter shouldn't have. Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 The Gold Glove is almost always more of a career achievement award anyway. Jeter had an indisputably great year, so they're going to give him whatever they can. Giving the Gold Glove to him is not nearly as wrong as giving him that Hank Aaron award though. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 Not saying I'm surprised... Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 The Gold Glove is almost always more of a career achievement award anyway. Jeter had an indisputably great year, so they're going to give him whatever they can. Giving the Gold Glove to him is not nearly as wrong as giving him that Hank Aaron award though.Jeter had a very good year, but defensively has declined the last few years. He was an average-to-just-below-average fielder last season. Alex Gonzalez was much better defensively. Juan Uribe was much better defensively. Heck, Bobby Crosby was much better defensively. I would have pegged either Gonzalez or Uribe for the award. Jeter would be down near the bottom of the AL list. The GG award appears to have gone the way of the popularity vote. Link to post Share on other sites
bobbob1313 Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 It's always been popularity. Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 Although, one could definately dispute that Jeter's defense has declined in the last few years. Just looking at range factor (and yeah, I know that one stat doesn't tell the whole story), he had a down year in the field this year, but the previous two seasons were among the best of his career. Link to post Share on other sites
MattZ Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 It's killing me that we are talking about gold glove awards. I miss baseball. I even miss arguing with bobbob. Link to post Share on other sites
Duck-Billed Catechist Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 There are three players that you could make a case for at third base. Eric Chavez is not one of them. Link to post Share on other sites
Lammycat Posted November 2, 2006 Share Posted November 2, 2006 It's always been popularity.I don't feel it's always been a popularity vote. I believe it was '98 or '99 that Raphael Palmiero won one for playing about 30 games at first and DHing the rest of his games that it became evident that the award is not based on legitimacy. Some of the players on this year's list (in their respective positions) may be questionable, but I think a decent argument could be made for their selections. With Jeter, I simply don't see a legitimate argument. Link to post Share on other sites
MrRain422 Posted November 2, 2006 Author Share Posted November 2, 2006 There are three players that you could make a case for at third base. Eric Chavez is not one of them. Uh...Inge...Crede....uh.....Mike Lowell? Link to post Share on other sites
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